Hitler 'could have won WWII'

reply to post by fapython

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Yeah, yeah, the Germans were such peace loving people at the time, why was everyone picking on them?? Truth is....Germany and the other Axis powers were the aggressors and they paid the price.

Sorry I don't feel too bad about anything that happened to the Axis powers during WWII. They made their bed and they got to sleep in it. Thats what happens if you let maniacs take control of your country.

What gets me is how Germany and Japan made so many planes and weapons and armies.

I'm not sure but was this in response to the industry and greatness
of America.

Were we doing so well that those countries went to the extreme.

Military projects of jets and rockets were impressive.
And advanced from America.
Technology was king and those countries became tyrants in its persecute.

Some how, as the war Hitler ran it, he couldn't win.
Gave up on England.
Could not defend France.
Russia developed superior tanks far away in Siberia and had oil
and plenty of raw materials.
Tanks with designs the US Arny refused to make and instead used
their own design engineers.
Russia probably didn't pay for the design use anyway.
Big Russia will crush little Hitlers.

reply to post by TeslaandLyne

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The T-34 was not that good. Easily defeated by German Panther and Tiger tanks. It just came as a suprise, that's all, the Germans did not expect an armored resistance.

reply to post by YourForever

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no it wasnt that good, but it was good enough and in large enough numbers.

Once when i was looking at old photos of soviet tank crews i noticed that each driver had a small hammer in his belt, i figured it was symbolic, you know the whole hammer and sickle thing.
No it wasnt, it was issued to tank drivers and used to bang on the transmission shift lever in order to get it to shift into gear.

reply to post by TeslaandLyne

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The T-34 was based on the Christie design, which the Russians bought a couple of, and then copied.

Just like they held a few of our B-29's forced to land there due to emergencies and copied much of the design.

Just like the Chinese did with a lot of Russian equipment, most famous of which would be the AK-47.

The Christie design was so advanced for the period, but our generals realized that very capable tanks would require very capable generals, and that just wouldn't do.

The Russian modification was crude to say the least, as they were designed for numbers, not quality. The chassis was the thing that enabled them to run circles around the German tanks, and the wider track for the tonnage enabled them to "float" across ground the heavier German tanks couldn't traverse.

I take the radio invention as giving armies the idea they could
take over the world.
Just give out orders to any place in the world.
Germany and Japan had coded messages.

Command and control would be operation supreme.

What would it have taken to stop the advancing Red Army in 1944? Surely there was a way? Hindsight is 20/20..

it was not his job to win the war just to start it so that israel would be formed, sounds nutty doesnt it?, research!!

reply to post by YourForever

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Remove the 400,000 trucks and 1,100 locomotives that the us supplied, and the soviet advance would have stopped in its tracks

Good point. What about the allied invasion in France? Was there any way that could of been stopped?

IF Japan hadnt bombed pearl harbour and brought america into the war it is true hitller would have won the war in europe and he had his sights on america. I HAD SEEN A DISCOVERY PROGRAME where it shown Hitler had stealth bomber on the drawing board and it would have carried a nuclear bomb which he was going to use on america.
Looks like we have to thank those japs....

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they had the RAF beat... the only reason why they lost the "battle of Britain" was because they lost focus. instead of keeping up the pressure on destroying the RAF they shifted focus to bombing the cities...

Not true Hitler didnt have fighter planes that could travel as far as bombers, so for most of the time german bombers was on their own. That is why the spitfire was born. it was made to combat the german bombers and being more agile it could easily take out the bombers at wil as they didnt have any fighter escorts. That is why Hitler made the v2 rocket so bomb britain because he couldnt break Britains air superority and radar defences.
that is why germany was trying to build a stealth bomber to avoid British radar dectection.

[edit on 29-8-2009 by loner007]

reply to post by TheCoffinman

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the lufwaffe didnt have any focus, the two main commanders had widley differeing views on how to proceed.
One wanted to bomb cities to force a political capitulation, the other sought to destroy the RAF's ability to fight.
these two opposed philosophies were allowed to forment in the high command by goering's incompetance as a commander.
agian the nazi's command philosophy and structure hampered their ability to operate effectively.

the real turning point was when the germans gave up on bombing the radar stations in favor of bombing the cities.
had they finished the operation against the radar stations the RAF's ability to coordinate a defense would have been practicaly nil.
Once agin terrible tactical descisions hampered the nazis ability to fight a strategic war, THANK GOD.

It occurred and was committed wholly by the Russians. I consider this so well known that i'll let you do the research for this one

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