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Topic started on 29-7-2009 @ 10:45 PM by john124

Hitler 'could have won WWII'


news.bbc.co.uk
Could Germany have won World War II if it wasn't for Hitler's ideological obsessions? Historian Andrew Roberts reflects on the strategic and tactical mistakes the Third Reich made.
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reply posted on 29-7-2009 @ 11:01 PM by Oeden
reply to post by john124



Had he not wasted his manpower by killing his population; ie, the jews, poles, etc, ; and had he not stupdily declared war on Russia . . .

if if if

Ultimate power brings, how does that saying go?



reply posted on 29-7-2009 @ 11:16 PM by open_eyeballs
reply to post by dooper



Hitler was a corporal who thought he was Atilla


lol..that was funny

good stuff.


reply posted on 29-7-2009 @ 11:23 PM by Agit8dChop
reply to post by dooper



Spot on.

I also think that Hitler didnt understand the times very well.
Yes, he had built up a war machine so superior to any other he believed his army invincible.
He built up this mechanised ground force and attacking airforce while his country was banished and broke from WW1.

Captured Tanks, stolen idea's.. im not sure he understood that Russia, UK and the US were going to take on his good idea's and produce tanks/planes at a much faster rate.

The winter beat him in Russia
The strength of numbers beat him in France
His arrogance beat him in the air war with the UK
and his stupidity led to Berlins destruction

Its still absolutly incredible, how one man brought the world to its knee's.
I remember standing in Berlin in the carpark above where his bunker was.. day dreaming of the carnage and absolute history making moments that occured in that sandy playground.

man i love history!



reply posted on 29-7-2009 @ 11:28 PM by Le Colonel
Hitler totally could have won the war and the world would be a different place, but He was a loser who f"ed cousin, and was not truly a War Commander.

He was a loser. He could have had the world. It really could have happened, but he f'd up. There were fronts he could have waited to attack and should have concentrated on Russia earlier, but then again he would eventually have run into the same problem the Romans had, The army troops start to be conscripted from taken over countries, therefore loyalty is no longer the same, and slowly empire falls apart. It happened to the british, and it will to the Americans. Spread yourself out, start using men NOT of your country to fight for your country, you lose.

There is something to be said for heart. To have that in combat, to fight for your land, your house, you can overcome anything. Either way. That is why Iraq and Afghanistan are failures, you cannot overcome the population. Never.

Im from Quebec, An english guy born and raised in a french land, that was taken over by the english, yet we retain the french language. Quebec was the first place to have western civlization in the americas, and even when the rulers changed the same familys are still here, and we retain our french hertiage. You cannot control the populations of countries taken over.

So those of you that fear the NWO. Fear not, they can get some of us, they can get alot of us, but they cannot get ALL of us. NWO taking over the world would bring insurgency everywhere. EVERYWHERE.

TO get back to OP. Hitler was a schmuck, he had ideals, he had a plan, but in the end he sucked. Who will be NEXT?


[edit on 29-7-2009 by Le Colonel]


reply posted on 29-7-2009 @ 11:30 PM by SpacePunk
reply to post by john124



If he would have listened to his generals, the likely hood of his winning WWII would have risen astronomically.


reply posted on 29-7-2009 @ 11:39 PM by open_eyeballs
reply to post by SevenThunders



He didn't win because it wasn't God's will.


You know the funniest part about your entire ignorant spat there?

Is that you are so arrogant you think you know what Gods will is.



Thanks for the laugh of the night! No twelve tribes. No fulfilled prophecy. Sorry to burst your bubble...




reply posted on 30-7-2009 @ 12:06 AM by stumason
Originally posted by Le Colonel
He was a loser. He could have had the world. It really could have happened, but he f'd up. There were fronts he could have waited to attack and should have concentrated on Russia earlier, but then again he would eventually have run into the same problem the Romans had, The army troops start to be conscripted from taken over countries, therefore loyalty is no longer the same, and slowly empire falls apart. It happened to the british, and it will to the Americans. Spread yourself out, start using men NOT of your country to fight for your country, you lose.


Man, you're full of rubbish!

Firstly, the Romans never had a problem with usuing foreign troops as loyalty was instilled with the offer of citizenship, What brought the Roman Empire to it's end was a result of centuries of poor management, civil war between rival generals, hyper-inflation and invading barbarian hordes.

Secondly, it isn't a problem the British had either. The Empire was dissolved due to American pressure at the end of WW2 and was a stipulation for joining the US created United Nations, in order to allow the US to expand it's sphere of influence and combat the USSR.

Originally posted by Le Colonel
Im from Quebec, An english guy born and raised in a french land, that was taken over by the english, yet we retain the french language. Quebec was the first place to have western civlization in the americas, and even when the rulers changed the same familys are still here, and we retain our french hertiage. You cannot control the populations of countries taken over.


Again, utter tosh. The first colonies in the America's belonged to the Spanish and Portugese. The English colony of Jamestown was founded before Quebec too.

Anyway, sorry for going OT, but if we're going to discuss history in this thread, lets make it accurate shall we, instead of a Pseudo-French jingoistic version?


reply posted on 30-7-2009 @ 12:09 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Originally posted by EnlightenUp
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
As I look around Amerika today...

It sure appears to me Hitler won the war. I do after all live in a nation that some how, some way, managed to end up with something called a Homeland Security Department?


In a strange and pernicious way I think you're right on. The legacy lives on in symbols that are still activated in consciousness to this day.


The reality is, it was American businessmen who financed and propelled Hitler to power. It's a matter of congressional record and they weren't just any businessmen but Rockefeller and Harriman, Bush, Dupont, Warberg the list goes on.

The Catholic Church and the OSS and then the fledgling CIA got every top Nazi it could out after the world.

Hitler killed himself and had his own body burned...yeah right, sell me a bridge in Brooklyn.

The British Mandate in Palestine would have never reached a critical mass of population at the rate of immigration before Hitler came along to allow it to grow to the tipping point to throw of the British and declare a nation.

U.S. Code 666 the Social Security Act, the number required to barter and trade...idiots went right along with it.

Create a sovereign nation of Israel...the idiots went right along with it.

Let private foreign and domestic interests control the nation's money supply and economic policy The Federal Reserve...the idiots went along with it.

People sure haven't wasted any time standing in the common sense line that's for sure.

[edit on 30/7/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]
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