Originally posted by king9072
reply to post by jfj123
And I notice you love to play semantics. I also notice that your last deflection "hot and pliable" has now been abandoned since I brought a point
Did you notice I brought it up in the form of a question too? In other words asking if that were the case and not telling everyone?
Notice this picture however?
This is supposedly molten metal. Now if we go with your definition, the hoe wouldn't be able to lift it up as it would be liquid as opposed to HOT
Good job ignoring the point, and again using deflection tactics.
Actually not at all. See above.
Other than aluminum, all listed metals have a melting point near 2000 degrees. Aluminum would only be found in relatively small quantities, the
next most common metal in the building would be copper, which has a similar melting point to steel.
Actually there would be plenty of aluminum in the building.
And regarding copper, yes it has a similar melting point as steel. Keeping that in mind, when I used to go camping at Copper Harbor, MI ; I would go
looking for copper ore. I'd gather up small copper pieces and melt them down over a campfire into a nice chunk of solid copper. Now if I can melt
down copper over a wood campfire, surely an office fire could have melted down copper under the right conditions????
So your still not debating that there was molten "metal" but you still don't feel the need to explain it.
I can explain it in a number of ways.
1. As before, we don't know what kind of metal it was so we don't know the metals melting point.
2. It's very possible that the combination of the rubble and air flow could have turned the area's around the molten unknown metal, into a blast
furnace which could have easily super heated metals. Of course you won't believe this so I might ask, haven't you ever seen an underground fire
last months? years? or even decades? It happens
Since, the official story is conclusive and it does explain every aspect of that day right? So ok, ill wait for your answer to the molten metal
part in your next deflection post.
You can pretend I've created deflective posts but that doesn't make it so. I also have explained a number of times that I don't believe that the
official story is 100% correct so the fact that you're claiming I'm a backer of the official story means you're just not reading my posts very
closely. You might want to try it before responding next time.
And yes, the building was made of steel.
The building was constructed of steel but there were many other metals inside the building. There's a difference that you failed to understand
Notice it's referred to as a "Steel Structured Building" that means that it is built of steel.
Again, we both know that's not what I'm referring to. Now who's deflecting
It doesn't matter whether you build a building of wood, stone, or steel, you're going to have copper plumbing, copper wiring, perhaps some
aluminum wiring depending on circumstances.
That was my entire point you missed. The building is made up of many different metals as copper plumbing, copper and aluminum wiring, etc.. are part
of the building.
The copper wasn't the load carrying metal, neither was aluminum or gold. Steel was.
Never said it was. More deflecting on your part.
The amount of steel in the building is exponentially larger than any other metal, even the next most common metal copper.
Which has to do with nothing. You can't assume that because there was more steel then other metals, the liquified metal found was steel.
Can we conclusively tell if it was the most common metal found in a building such as that, that was liquefied? No. We can only speculate based
on it's abundance versus other metals, especially aluminum.
You can only guess with no basis for your guess.
Also keep in mind there are more then 1 kind of steel and they have different melting points.
But, as mentioned they still melt near 2000 (except alum), so you aren't off the hook - you still need to explain why molten metal was found
AT ALL. And after multiple pages of deflections, you still haven't. Office fires 80 storeys off the ground doesn't melt ANY METAL in the basement.
You will never be able to explain that.
Can an office fire get hot enough to melt metal? Sure, why not. Ever been in a house after a fire ? I have and have found plenty of melted metal and
a bit of molten metal.
The molten metal didn't need to originate in the basement. It could have been on any floor and once the building collapsed, it could have, in liquid
state, works it's way down.
It was also convenient how you just once again outright ignored my building seven arguments. Good work on that one too.
I didn't ignore them. At this point I'd rather focus on 1 and 2. We can get to 7 later if you like.
Regardless, I am done feeding you troll.
I find this amusing. I don't agree with you and your admitted GUESSES and now I'm a troll
You really don't mind looking silly, do you?????
And anyone with a brain who reads these pages will understand why. You haven't bothered to bring any valid arguments to the table - or
evidence. You deflect or ignore every single argument you can't explain, and ultimately you've made it quite clear you have no intention of ever
doing any of that. I'm done with this thread, thanks for proving nothing for your side.
You might want to look at your own posts. Your GUESSES don't PROVE anything either. Why would anyone with half a brain REQUIRE me to PROVE my side
then only expect to provide GUESSES on their side ?????????????????? Are you SERIOUS ?????????????