I certainly sympathize with those that feel this is going nowhere.. however I feel I must respond..
point by point answer to the OP..
The end of "911 Conpiracy", and the beginning of "911 Common Knowledge"
*Important* Please read and understand everything I write before writing a response, too many times in the past I end up repeating myself several
times in my thread. If you need to, please read the thread several times before posting comments or questions. Thanks. *Important*
very condescending.. thanks..
An Important Distinction
Too often, as our society always does, we begin to divide ourselves against each other. Though we often share the same goals, we continually let
ourselves be divided and conquered. And this is evident within the 911 movement. The truth movement is continually divided so that it can easily be
conquered through ridicule and false science. Fellow members of the movement will argue endlessly about points that will likely never be proven either
way, all while they let the goal of exposure slip away.
Always remember, there is only two sides here, you are one or the other.
there are not only two sides here..
You are either a person who does not believe the Official story, or you are a person that does believe the official story. That is the ONLY thing that
matters. It doesn't matter if you believe there was no planes, or that I believe that there was planes, if we both agree that the official story is
nonsensical. Through this division we are conquered, and we need to end that here, because we all have a common goal. When responding to this thread,
I want you to begin by making this distinction prior to any comments. Either “I believe the official story (insert comment)” or, “I do not
believe the official story (insert comment)”
there was always an inherent division in the truth movement.. lihop vs mihop.. the distinction is quite clear when you consider the
implications.. other than that, there are a multitude of reasons for division.. namely, what you mentioned above, about what people
Another... Important Distinction
Many people seem to think that it is on the truth movement, to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Government was involved. This is FALSE. It is
NOT on us to prove that, and it is definitely not possible for us to prove that entirely. Through this false mind set, we limit ourselves from ever
making any true headway. Our only goal is to prove that it did not happen the way they said it did, and through that fact we can understand that they
must have done it, because only the guilty must lie in explanation.
the part about your only goal is ridiculous.. because it didnt happen the way they said it did means they did it? did I read that right?
thats not proof..
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In essence, I can't prove 100% why the government conducted 911, though I have some ideas. Or exactly how, everything was accomplished, though I have
some ideas. But what can be proven is that their story does not add up, and because of that I know they are guilty, because if they were innocent
their story would add up and they would have done everything in their power to divulge every piece of information. It's the unknown, and currently
– unprovable, variables that are derailing this movement.
It's why we still have people on this forum, who believe in a completely illogical and outright blasphemous version of events that day. And with that
view, they base their life, making decisions, building their perception, and influencing the way they act and interpret new information. It is
dangerous. Because it's through this ignorant perception, that people allow illogical and threatening laws to be passed, wars to be launched, people
to be murdered, and countries destroyed.
could say the same for you and those who agree with your side..
We must use undisputed facts,
that is correct..
inconsistencies in the official version, and highlight the astronomical coincidences to make our point.
how about instead of make our point.. find the truth?
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It's time for people to understand that there are no coincidences in the grand scheme of this world. Failing to understand that fact seriously limits
your ability to evaluate the current state of your reality. You are limiting your perception. Especially since, these coincidences are absolutely
quite a leap of faith here.. no coincidences? none?
(off topic.. london bombing and swine flu references removed..)
Is it a coincidence that the “Pentagon Attack” happened to hit the only section designed to take such a hit?
Is it a coincidence that the hijacker, was so nice to go out of his way to attack that portion, rather than any other portion? Going so far as to
execute almost an entire downward circle, to avoid all pentagon brass stationed directly on the opposite side of the building. Just a coincidence?
the straight route was over the Reagan approach corridor.. probably would have avoided that side anyway.. also, he might have missed the
first approach.. reasonable doubt here..
Is it a coincidence that 3 steel structured towers collapsed into themselves on 911, yet it has never happened before or since? How does a fire, a
jet, a bomb, or anything which compromises less than 10% of a steel structure, some how cause a unilateral, complete systematic failure?
remember above? We must use undisputed facts,
Is it a coincidence that some how, for the first time in history that day, we had almost two entire planes vaporize? Such as in Shanksville or at the
Pentagon. It must be merely a coincidence, that these two planes practically disappeared. And in the Pentagon attack, it is simply a coincidence that
the wings did no damage to the exterior of the building, nor did the engines, before they were 'sucked' into the building and vaporized.
you have obviously not researched this aspect much.. remember..We must use undisputed facts,
Is it a coincidence or simply amazing luck, that Silverstein purchased the WTC complex 6 weeks prior to 911
It is especially convenient, since purchasing the WTC's were theoretically the worst business move in history. The towers were a black hole, that
were only a burden. It was losing money hand over fist, and the cost of needed renovations were staggering. It would be cheaper to rebuild the towers,
than to go through purchasing them.
It's just a coincidence, that he profited to the tune of 4.5 billion dollars on a six week investment which cost him 14 million out of pocket.
have you looked into the court judgements, and into how much lucky larry has spent after?
hint.. he did not do so well..
Thus, it must also be coincidence, that he happened to miss a very important meeting in the World Trade Center that day due to his wife
“demanding” he see his dermatologist.
thats the story.. maybe he is lucky..
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It's then, also a coincidence that Rumsfeld announced that the Pentagon could not account for $2.3 trillion in spending, on September 10th. Luckily
for him, the next day a problem would occur, which would enable trillions more in wasted spending.
not a once in a life time occurance.. but yeah.. suspicious..
I suppose it must also be a coincidence, that WTC 7, which was never hit with a plane and had sustained only superficial damage to one part of its
facade, with small isolated fires burning, collapsed at near freefall speed mirroring the exact look, and movement of any controlled demolition.
the damage was more than superficial.. fires were not small.. the FDNY knew it would fall way before it did.. remember..We must
use undisputed facts,
Is it just a coincidence, that on the one time that America is actually attacked, that it is the one time Norad fails to scramble any jets towards the
threat. Wait, make that, fails four times to scramble jets to neutralize a threat. All on one amazing day.
that is so intellectually dishonest that it hardly merits a response.. but here goes.. first off there was no knowledge that this was an
attack until the second plane hit.. secondly, Norad is not responsible for anything other than external air threats.. thirdly, with the transponders
turned off it was hard to identify them on radar due to the immense air traffic in the area.. plus it was only a short time that this all unfolded..
Is it just a coincidence, with so much debate about what happened at the Pentagon, that they have still never released anything more than 6 frames of
footage? Especially when, not even those 6 frames even show anything conclusively. Perhaps an innocent Government, which had actually been attacked,
would show every single tape, from every single angle of that plane hitting that building. So why do we only have 6 inconclusive frames?
this subject has been addressed before.. they were fisheye lenses.. and the other cameras were not focused on an outward perspective..
they would be poised to see vehicles or personnel approaching on the ground.. there was one directly above the impact zone (I believe) but was
destroyed in the crash..
Is it just a coincidence that scientists have found Military Grade Thermitic Materials in all dust samples studied from the debris?
this is currently, highly in dispute.. there is no proof of this claim yet..
Is it just a coincidence, that Marvin Bush was a principal in a company called Securacom which handled security of the WTC? At the exact time, someone
was able to smuggle in and plant an estimated 10-100 tons of thermite? Obviously just a coincidence.
must have planted it prior to 2001, as he left the company in 2000.. remember?We must use undisputed facts,
It's also just a coincidence, that for the first time in history, with the country under direct attack the preisdent sat still, in a location that
had been publicly announced. He was never carried off by the secret service to somewhere “safe”. Perhaps he figured, he was safe.
he was safe and secure for the moment.. he was moved shortly after..
It's also just a coincidence that pools of molten metal were found under the WTC rubble upto 6 weeks after the attacks. This is obviously something
fire alone cannot accomplish, and it's additionally coincidental since it's been scientifically proven that thermite was used that day.
talking about Jones and or Harrit? not proven.. many critics, no peer review, outlandish claim to say proven.. remember?We must
use undisputed facts,
It's also interesting that they spent $65 million investigating Clintons Sex scandal, and only $3 million was designated to investigate the most
devastating attack on American Soil ever.
goes to show how ridiculous the clinton witch hunt was..
Why did the government feel the need to lie about practically every aspect of that day, continually, when they should have wanted to know for
themselves exactly what happened. Perhaps, it's all just a coincidence that they did not care.
another unproven assumption..
The government has lied. Their story does not add up. And thus they must be guilty. There are elements of that day which will likely never be
uncovered, as well as theories that will never be proven. But what is clearly evident is that we have been sold a joke, and because of that joke our
entire life and our destiny has changed.
still no evidence.. nothing but a rant..
Our perception as a planet shifted that day, and layers of ignorance were imposed. As I mentioned, it is this intentionally imposed ignorance that has
allowed our world to decay to it's current state. Sweeping police state measures added, absolutely unconstitutional laws passed, trillions of wasted
spending, millions of innocent people dead, thousands of soldiers dead, thousands of soldiers taking their own life, thousands of first responders to
the attacks are DEAD or dying.
yes, very sad indeed.. lots of things changed that day.. but place the blame were there is proof of guilt.. not just where you think it
We had our perception and future altered that day, those people had their perception and future ENDED. All because of a monstrous myth, that logic and
scientific reasoning has quickly debunked. If you believe any one of those “coincidences” may, NOT have been a coincidence, that means you do NOT
believe the official story. If this were an unexpected tragedy that were a genuine attack on the country, do you honestly believe there would exist so
many astronomical coincidences? It's like winning the lottery 100 times consecutively it just doesn't happen – by chance.
It's time to quit letting people everywhere perpetuate the official story MYTH. Because the fact that people believe it shows that they are
intentionally ignorant to the situation, and their reaction to events and perception of reality is crippled at best, and damaging to themselves, their
family and their country at worst.
leave your emotions at the door folks.. this is not something you can discern without facts..
let truth prevail and let the chips fall where they may.. that is the spirit of the scientific method..
not some emotional rant without substance.. remember everything in the OP is nothing but conjecture.. not one verifiable fact is presented..
So lets end this divide in the movement, and begin to vigorously out those who want to be intentionally ignorant of the facts of a day which has
forever changed the lives of everyone on this planet, and has ended the lives of millions permanently.
with this I agree.. those that would intentionally remain ignorant, need to be outed..
but more importantly.. those that would lead one into ignorance, needs outing even more..