The Sun is Different!

Originally posted by Scooby Doo
I don't know if there is anything different with summer 2009, but I do know that there have been a lot of reported sun spots. This may be the reason for the recent weather troubles.

There have been 17 which is not a lot. Its a small cluster and it needs to be watched to determine if this is a just a minor event. If its not a minor event, then the Sun is finally emerging from its deep solar minimum and returning to "normal".

Spaceweather.com is a good source for updates.

You're luck you have a pool i didn't take a shower outside of my house in nearly 10 years New york sucks.

I completely agree!! Im usually used to the sun and often visit hot countries but a few days ago I was lying in the garden at home in England and I was only out for about an hour and my whole body was burnt and soar. I must say I have never experienced this level of sunburn in cold rainy england. Very strange, I thought i was the only one.

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I'm probably wrong but I'm going to put it out there anyway:
Remember the 9+ mag earthquake that caused the tsunami in 04? I think I remember reading somewhere that it actually altered our orbit around the sun. If it pushed us even a tiny bit closer wouldn't that have enormous effects on climate, our exposure, etc? Could that be a factor in the sun appearing brighter, stronger, hotter?

I have been walking down the street, and could barely open my eyes, the sun was so bright.. Solar maximum, here we come..

I really love it when someone is trying to inform the community and ends up insulting them, instead. Our ego's may prevent us from believing what you say just solely based on the fact that all you provide is a link, but you state nothing else with any facts at all. And if we don't take your word for it or the link that was provided (which is a book review and seems like they're pushing a book is all), then it's our ego in the way? Seriously?

Here's the deal. I've seen skin cancer. I've seen people die from it. But not once in my 40 years have I ever seen anyone keel over and die from using sun screen. I'm NOT saying that sun screen is "oh so healthy" but if I have to be in the sun, I'm damn well going to use it and not let fear mongering get in the way of avoiding a sun burn.

Originally posted by StrangeBrew
Since the topic came up, I think it's important to understand that sunscreen actually causes cancer. It does not prevent it - this fact is absolutely true. The sunscreen fraud/hoax has been exposed time and time again through research but have we heard anything to the contrary? Of course not. They love you rubbing that compound all over your skin. They don't want us to know that as our diet continues to take a nosedive (because of the fake food onslaught), we loose the ability for our skin to be naturally protected.

IF you can't possibly believe the above paragraph then your ego will also not permit you to believe that cancer and the methods to eliminate it from the body are completely understood and withheld from the general public (and the mainstream medical profession).

It's absolutely embarrassing how little the average doctor or specialist knows about disease and their root causes. It's almost as though we (and they) believe "disease is an unfortunate event, and when we get struck, it's some type of exterior force, like numbers being drawn in a lottery, and we have to 'make due' with this unfortunate hand we been dealt".

Pretty much the worst outlook and view possible. Friends, these diseases, all of them, are well understood. And you getting them; is how the game is played.

Source: www.naturalnews.com...

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My husband tans very well. Usually he can go our for a few minutes and come in very dark with no sunburn. He has been this way forever. Last weekend he was up fixing the roof and came in and was burnt very badly. I was really shocked to see the degree of sunburn on him. He is now in the peeling phase and has never had sunburn to where he has peeled before. Very strange. He should have used sunscreen but he didnt even think about it considering the time he was out and how his skin usually reacts. I think we will be noticing much more of the small but important changes in the years to come.

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Hi Phage,
I'm not so sure how to average such an inexact science and how far to go back to create such an average,if you go far enough back some people might say that some cycles were missed?that NASA link mentions a 70 year low in the 17th century,but the low went well into the 18th century,I'll stick with the 11 year norm,and as a guide only.
Quote from 1975,
"according to E. Parker (Scientific American, 9/1975), "the prejudice is that the 11-year sunspot cycle with its thousands of spots in each cycle is the norm."
I haven't taken that quote out of context,although the figures mentioned seem fairly high,but then 1976 was looming.

London has never been this hot consistently, recently ive been getting the feeling im on holiday when i go for walks - weird.

Anyone at has ever driven down a Texas highway past a work crew has seen that the people doing the work (Mexicans) are well covered with clothing and hats.... These people are the descendants of the indigenous people of e South West U.S. and are of a darker complexion than people of Nordic ancestry and yet they take precautions to avoid the ravishes of the elements..... I have suffered serious sunburn when I was young and have the scars from the removal of a melanoma on my back to show for it...... I have seen many an old farmer and construction workers as well as sun worshippers that have been carved on and women with skin that resembles vat tumbled leather at an early age from overexposure to the sun..... The atmosphere is undergoing changes and it is apparent in the appearance of local vegetation and animal behavior as well....Wear a real hat, cover up, drink lots of water and avoid alcohol. When you die you will make the undertaker's job a lot easier when he (she) tries to make your body presentable and you might be more popular at the old folks home before that time comes.

That's really weird bc over here in CT it's been raining everyday and almost as cold as it would be in Sept. Very few times has it been hot. Usually during this time it would be at least 80-90, but we've had a steady 60-70 since summer started. My friends and I have all been wondering the same, if something's wrong.

I just remembered a headline that was on yahoo a few days ago that said volcanic eruption in Russia creating stunning sunsets in the US. I am no scientist, but could that have anything to do with this??

It's possible.. There have definitely been many pink skies, but I find the increased solar activity correlating with increased seismic and tectonic activity to be more interesting...

That energy has to go somewhere, right? And there is evidence that perhaps Mars is maybe a little more geologically active than a dead planet should be..

Something is definately up with the sun, we plant sunflowers every year in our front and back yard, I love the look of them and they provide a little privacy from our neighbors. This year we have noted that the buds are not following the sun. They are turning instead AWAY from the sun. And not facing east either, which is normal once the flowers bloom, they are facing west/southwest. I would like for someone to explain that .

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Now that is concerning!! I have always loved sunflowers and the way that they always turn their "faces" toward the sun! I think we should all take note of this!!!

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They do always turn with the sun. We have been growing them for a long time, I love to see them follow the sun , it is amazing that they do what they do, to see them face away from the sun, well, it really worries me. I will try tommorrow to capture a picture of them doing this and come back and post it. I mean, if you know sunflowers you have to know this is not right

Originally posted by grapesofraft
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Sorry but all i can think of from reading your post is that you are just a pile of skin cancer waiting to happen. You need to use sun screen. Not to nag you, and sorry that I have already, but you really need to be more careful with your skin. Too much sun is brutal on it.

I think the sun is just fine though. I mean some years are just hotter than others. It doesnt mean the sun is trying to cook us or anything.

Anyway, hope you get better and please, for the sake of those that love you, use some sun screen.

personally, I dont' believe in Sun giving us skin cancer...it's a misdirection from the MSN to buy more 'skin' products... it's the vehicle pollution..

yea.. I've always wondered why natives didn't die in the droves over the centuries..

After reading a great deal of the speculation in this thread, I have to say that I am glad to see so many concerned with the effects of the sun upon our climate. Just a few short years ago the so called climate experts (lawyers and actors) would bash one for even stating that the sun has any bearing on climate because it would some how detract from the global warming scam.

I have been following this for a few years now, since about 1998 and I can tell you the most popular theory about the sun right now. For the last few years, the sun has entered into a solar minimum which as it stands at the moment is the longest minimum in 140 years. This actually allows more ultraviolet rays to hit the surface of the planets. Without the higher level of electro magnetic waves from sun spots hitting the earth, we kind of lose our shielding. One might think that would allow temps to go up, however what it causes is more cloud formation which reflects more and more sunlight. The prediction for the moment is if we have re-entered the Dalton Minimum (1790-1830) or worse, we could see planting zones in the US all shift south by one zone. Translation, not enough of a growing season in the nation's bread basket for most crops to germinate, grow and ripen.

I encourage anyone concerned to research the Dalton Minimumand compare the sun's activity then and now. Its a cycle and its come back around.

I have always loved sunflowers, I haven't planted them in a couple years, but that is seriously concerning that they face the wrong way. I wonder why. Could it be that the rays are too strong at this level for them, too many photons? I was outside yesterday, I wasn't laying out, just out there walking around and I felt almost a crackling on that really delicate skin under my eyes. Like it was just frying there.

And my cat who hasn't had any issues thus far, he's 7, has come down with this awful black stuff on his face, around his eyes and nose. Called the vet for appt and she said she has seen more cats recently with this. She feels it's allergies, but I won't find out until tomorrow a.m.
Could the sun be doing this? (it's not cancer, I've seen that on cats before)

Also, I read a psychics page who believes the New Madrid area will be feeling the effects of this moon phase we're in. Either earthquake or flooding wise. Also the west coast, but she didn't say what...

Lot's of stuff to watch for these days!