Well I was going to try this later tonight or tomorrow but now I dont think I will. Thanks for the warning.
Carcinogen Found in KFC's New Grilled Chicken, page 1
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Topic started on 2-7-2009 @ 08:32 AM by marg6043
Well for those that are KFC's lovers this one is not good news for you, and to tell that I even tasted the new Grilled Chicken myself, but I didn't
like it a bit.
For once the Chicken didn't look anything like the one advertised, it was skinny low grade quality and while the taste was "OK" it was not what I expected.
But I never expected to be contaminated with carcinogens.
www.pcrm.org...
Even Oprah was giving free coupons to this new grilled chicken.
Don't eat the Chicken.
[edit on 2-7-2009 by marg6043]
For once the Chicken didn't look anything like the one advertised, it was skinny low grade quality and while the taste was "OK" it was not what I expected.
But I never expected to be contaminated with carcinogens.
WASHINGTON—Tests of KFC's new Kentucky Grilled Chicken have revealed substantial amounts of a carcinogenic chemical in all samples tested, according to a report released today by the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), which is asking KFC to withdraw the product from sale.
www.pcrm.org...
Even Oprah was giving free coupons to this new grilled chicken.
The new KFC grilled chicken products were the focus of a controversial promotion by Oprah Winfrey, who offered coupons for free Kentucky Grilled Chicken meals on her Web site. PCRM has alerted Ms. Winfrey to these findings.
Don't eat the Chicken.
[edit on 2-7-2009 by marg6043]
reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 09:16 AM by marg6043
reply to post by TiredofControlFreaks
Yes you are right, but is certain grades of carcinogen in meat and then is higher grades of carcinogen in meat, and this type of chicken from KFC's tested for the highest.
I am very well aware of how meat cook at higher temperatures release carcinogens.
Just beware that for some reason this Chicken happen to test higher.
Yes you are right, but is certain grades of carcinogen in meat and then is higher grades of carcinogen in meat, and this type of chicken from KFC's tested for the highest.
I am very well aware of how meat cook at higher temperatures release carcinogens.
Just beware that for some reason this Chicken happen to test higher.
reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 09:31 AM by TiredofControlFreaks
Dear Marg 6043
Please explain how you know that KFC chicken tested higher for carcinogens that chicken grilled at home? It wasn't in the article. How do you have this special knowledge. Could it be that you are actually a plant on ATS trying to stir up more panic and get more funding?
Here is a link for carcinogens formed when meat is grilled:
www.ahc.umn.edu...
When reading this article there is a quote of increased risk of pancreatic cancer from consuming grilled meats. These types of "increased risk" has to be put in perspective.
First you need to know what the risk of pancreatic cancer is. I don't know for sure and can't be bothered to look it up but I am betting that it is actually quite low.
From WIKI:
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Pancreatic cancer
Classification and external resources
ICD-10 C25.
ICD-9 157
OMIM 260350
DiseasesDB 9510
MedlinePlus 000236
eMedicine med/1712
MeSH D010190
Pancreatic cancer is a malignant neoplasm of the pancreas. Each year in the United States, about 42,470 individuals are diagnosed with this condition and 35,240 die from the disease.[1] The prognosis is generally poor; less than 5 percent of those diagnosed are still alive five years after diagnosis. Complete remission is still extremely rare.[2] About 95% of exocrine pancreatic cancers are adenocarcinomas (M8140/3). The remaining 5% include adenosquamous carcinomas, squamous cell carcinomas, and giant cell carcinomas.[3] Exocrine pancreatic cancers are far more common than endocrine pancreatic cancers (islet cell carcinomas), which make up about 1% of total cases.[4]
Now the united states has a population of 300 million people. So the risk is 42,470/300 million or 0.0004 %. So "double the risk" means 0.0008 %
Not anything that you should be so concerned about that it guides your life decisions and your diet.
Now to balance this propaganda piece -you need to consider what the risk is of other cooking methods ie increased fat intake causing heart attacks.
PUt this article in perspective. If you enjoy KFC grilled chicken, it might very well be the best nutritional choice for you. If you don't enjoy it - don't eat it. But don't go off half-cocked over this little piece of propaganda. Or the next thing you know, this group will be lobbying government to ban this type of cooking in a public place (carcinogens in the air) and demanding that people who eat grilled meat pay extra taxes in order to pay for their (increased health care costs) and suing Fast Food for thier illnesses (with the consumer picking up the tab of course)
Tired of Control Freaks.
Please explain how you know that KFC chicken tested higher for carcinogens that chicken grilled at home? It wasn't in the article. How do you have this special knowledge. Could it be that you are actually a plant on ATS trying to stir up more panic and get more funding?
Here is a link for carcinogens formed when meat is grilled:
www.ahc.umn.edu...
When reading this article there is a quote of increased risk of pancreatic cancer from consuming grilled meats. These types of "increased risk" has to be put in perspective.
First you need to know what the risk of pancreatic cancer is. I don't know for sure and can't be bothered to look it up but I am betting that it is actually quite low.
From WIKI:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
Pancreatic cancer
Classification and external resources
ICD-10 C25.
ICD-9 157
OMIM 260350
DiseasesDB 9510
MedlinePlus 000236
eMedicine med/1712
MeSH D010190
Pancreatic cancer is a malignant neoplasm of the pancreas. Each year in the United States, about 42,470 individuals are diagnosed with this condition and 35,240 die from the disease.[1] The prognosis is generally poor; less than 5 percent of those diagnosed are still alive five years after diagnosis. Complete remission is still extremely rare.[2] About 95% of exocrine pancreatic cancers are adenocarcinomas (M8140/3). The remaining 5% include adenosquamous carcinomas, squamous cell carcinomas, and giant cell carcinomas.[3] Exocrine pancreatic cancers are far more common than endocrine pancreatic cancers (islet cell carcinomas), which make up about 1% of total cases.[4]
Now the united states has a population of 300 million people. So the risk is 42,470/300 million or 0.0004 %. So "double the risk" means 0.0008 %
Not anything that you should be so concerned about that it guides your life decisions and your diet.
Now to balance this propaganda piece -you need to consider what the risk is of other cooking methods ie increased fat intake causing heart attacks.
PUt this article in perspective. If you enjoy KFC grilled chicken, it might very well be the best nutritional choice for you. If you don't enjoy it - don't eat it. But don't go off half-cocked over this little piece of propaganda. Or the next thing you know, this group will be lobbying government to ban this type of cooking in a public place (carcinogens in the air) and demanding that people who eat grilled meat pay extra taxes in order to pay for their (increased health care costs) and suing Fast Food for thier illnesses (with the consumer picking up the tab of course)
Tired of Control Freaks.
reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 09:32 AM by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by marg6043
The chicken i got was plump, juicy, and outstanding in every possible way. I keep meaning to go back....but haven't yet.
Doesn't surprise me to find carcinogens in it. When you grill anything, the "grill marks" and charred parts contain carcinogenic compounds, too.
The chicken i got was plump, juicy, and outstanding in every possible way. I keep meaning to go back....but haven't yet.
Doesn't surprise me to find carcinogens in it. When you grill anything, the "grill marks" and charred parts contain carcinogenic compounds, too.
reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 09:33 AM by Snisha
Here are a few facts from M.D. Anderdson's website that you all may find interesting.
www.mdanderson.org...
www.mdanderson.org...
Grilling any type of meat, even chicken or fish, until it’s charred or burned can increase your chances of getting cancer
www.mdanderson.org...
* Grill fish instead. Fish contains less fat than meat and poultry do, making it less likely to create PAH-carrying smoke and flare-ups caused by dripping fat. Fish also requires less time on the grill, reducing its exposure to carcinogens.
* Precook your foods. The higher the temperature at which food cooks and the longer it stays on the grill, the more HCAs develop. Partially cooking meat or poultry indoors for two to five minutes draws out most of the potentially harmful chemicals without sacrificing moistness. Heat your meat up in the microwave or oven, and then finish it on the grill.
* Lightly oil your grill. A little oil keeps charred material from sticking to the food. It also helps keep fish and chicken in one piece.
* Lower the heat. On charcoal grills, increase the distance between the food and the hot coals by spreading the coals thin or by propping the grill rack on bricks. On gas grills, just lower the settings.
* Stick to charcoal and hardwood. Barbecue briquettes and hardwood products, such as hickory and maple burn at lower temperatures than softwood (pine) chips.
* Clean your grill. Scrub your grill thoroughly after every use to avoid a buildup of carcinogens that can be transferred to your food the next time you grill.
* Spread aluminum foil on the grill. This will reduce flare-ups. Just make sure to make small holes in the foil to allow fat to drain.
* Flip meat frequently. This reduces the amount of carcinogens that arise.
* Marinate your food. Marinating not only makes grilled foods taste better, but makes them safer because marinades draw out chemical precursors of carcinogens
www.mdanderson.org...
reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 09:34 AM by marg6043
reply to post by ghaleon12
You know I have become very aware of what I eat, where it comes from and how is produced and feed.
I am a meat eater but can got many weeks without meat I have trained myself into that.
But I find very ironic that our government due to the big multibillion dollar industry that has become the fast food and the food industry can allow so much to be passed into the consumer in the name of profits.
Like you say many of our baby formulas and baby food manufacturers used GMO in their products.
And people doesn't realized what they are feeding their babies with, just because the brand names are so well known and trusted, yes they were back in the days when they started but in the last 20 years they have become nothing but testing ground for the food suppliers and GMO manipulation.
You know I have become very aware of what I eat, where it comes from and how is produced and feed.
I am a meat eater but can got many weeks without meat I have trained myself into that.
But I find very ironic that our government due to the big multibillion dollar industry that has become the fast food and the food industry can allow so much to be passed into the consumer in the name of profits.
Like you say many of our baby formulas and baby food manufacturers used GMO in their products.
And people doesn't realized what they are feeding their babies with, just because the brand names are so well known and trusted, yes they were back in the days when they started but in the last 20 years they have become nothing but testing ground for the food suppliers and GMO manipulation.
reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 09:38 AM by marg6043
reply to post by TiredofControlFreaks
Hey don't attack the messenger just take the thread and make your own opinion, mine is don't eat the chicken plain and simple.
Still,
Hey don't attack the messenger just take the thread and make your own opinion, mine is don't eat the chicken plain and simple.
Still,
A PCRM scientist visited six different KFC stores, obtained two samples from each location, and sent them to an independent testing laboratory. All 12 samples were found to contain PhIP, a chemical classified as a carcinogen by the federal government. PhIP, part of a chemical family known as heterocyclic amines (HCAs), has been linked to several forms of cancer, including breast cancer, in dozens of scientific studies. No safe level of ingestion has been identified. Every sample also tested positive for at least one additional type of HCA.
have fun.
reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 09:56 AM by TiredofControlFreaks
Sorry Marg6043 You have failed to explain how you know the KFC chicken tested higher than other grilled chicken. I would suggest you have been
"outed" as a plant
To the poster who enquired about the role of arsenic in healthy body function:
www.tjclark.com.au...
It is very difficult to suffer from arsenic deficiency. Arsenic comprises a component of soil. Plants uptake the arsenic. Its in our food. Its in the air in the form of dust. Its in all sources of water. We eat it, inhale it and drink it every single day.
www.best-home-remedies.com...
And yet - it is well known poison.
This underscores the point I was making - the dose makes the poison.
As for the poster who wouldn't want even 1 cigarette. It might surprise you to learn that smoking tobacco is an important source of niacin (that is vitamin B3). Its benefits include stress reduction, mental focus, mood elevation and pleasure. Smokers have been shown to suffer less MS, Parkinsons, irritible bowel syndome and for people with mental disorders like manic/depression and schizophenia, smoking has been shown to decrease symptoms of these diseases.
Again - you need to weigh the risks vs benefits as they pertain to you as an individual.
Learn how to think and you won't be falling for the fear mongering that these types of press releases are meant to create.
For god's sake people - we are living longer, healthier lives than have ever been lived before - and yet you all insist on living in fear.
Well - don't worry about it. Big Pharma (who provides alot of the funding for these groups will have a pill to sell you to protect you from the carcinogens in food very very soon)
By the way -these carcinogens have always been in grilled meat, even when the cave men were cooking it over the fire. And yet the human race survived.
Tired of Control Freaks.
To the poster who enquired about the role of arsenic in healthy body function:
www.tjclark.com.au...
It is very difficult to suffer from arsenic deficiency. Arsenic comprises a component of soil. Plants uptake the arsenic. Its in our food. Its in the air in the form of dust. Its in all sources of water. We eat it, inhale it and drink it every single day.
www.best-home-remedies.com...
And yet - it is well known poison.
This underscores the point I was making - the dose makes the poison.
As for the poster who wouldn't want even 1 cigarette. It might surprise you to learn that smoking tobacco is an important source of niacin (that is vitamin B3). Its benefits include stress reduction, mental focus, mood elevation and pleasure. Smokers have been shown to suffer less MS, Parkinsons, irritible bowel syndome and for people with mental disorders like manic/depression and schizophenia, smoking has been shown to decrease symptoms of these diseases.
Again - you need to weigh the risks vs benefits as they pertain to you as an individual.
Learn how to think and you won't be falling for the fear mongering that these types of press releases are meant to create.
For god's sake people - we are living longer, healthier lives than have ever been lived before - and yet you all insist on living in fear.
Well - don't worry about it. Big Pharma (who provides alot of the funding for these groups will have a pill to sell you to protect you from the carcinogens in food very very soon)
By the way -these carcinogens have always been in grilled meat, even when the cave men were cooking it over the fire. And yet the human race survived.
Tired of Control Freaks.
reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 10:00 AM by marg6043
reply to post by TiredofControlFreaks
No, I have not failed, just those that doesn't want to see are those that can never comprehend what our food industry has become.
But that is your choice and I will never stop you from eating your chicken my dear.
juicy and plump like you like it, mine was skinny, greasy and lacking.
No, I have not failed, just those that doesn't want to see are those that can never comprehend what our food industry has become.
But that is your choice and I will never stop you from eating your chicken my dear.
juicy and plump like you like it, mine was skinny, greasy and lacking.reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 10:09 AM by pieman
reply to post by marg6043
for me, it's not a matter of shooting the messenger, it's a matter of shooting the message to pieces. i know you probably posted because you felt you have valid concerns.
when i googled "PhIP" the first result for the chemical states
so "no safe level identified" probably should read "because the chemical hasn't been shown to be a carcinogen in humans." i think they're deliberately being misleading.
not that i think you should eat out of KFC, you probably shouldn't, but i don't think the way to convince anyone is by being misleading.
HCA's seem to be a by-product of cooking meat to the point where it chars, saying there is a carcinogen in this type of cooked chicken means as much as saying there is a carcinogen in marlboro's.
planted by KFC in 2004, she watched from the shadows as they slowly unveiled their plans for world domination through the finger licking goodness of the cancer burger, mwahaahaa. she'ld stop those pesky ATS'ers from outing them.
[edit on 2/7/09 by pieman]
for me, it's not a matter of shooting the messenger, it's a matter of shooting the message to pieces. i know you probably posted because you felt you have valid concerns.
when i googled "PhIP" the first result for the chemical states
There is inadequate evidence in humans for the carcinogenicity of PhIP.source
so "no safe level identified" probably should read "because the chemical hasn't been shown to be a carcinogen in humans." i think they're deliberately being misleading.
not that i think you should eat out of KFC, you probably shouldn't, but i don't think the way to convince anyone is by being misleading.
HCA's seem to be a by-product of cooking meat to the point where it chars, saying there is a carcinogen in this type of cooked chicken means as much as saying there is a carcinogen in marlboro's.
Originally posted by TiredofControlFreaks
Sorry Marg6043 You have failed to explain how you know the KFC chicken tested higher than other grilled chicken. I would suggest you have been "outed" as a plant
planted by KFC in 2004, she watched from the shadows as they slowly unveiled their plans for world domination through the finger licking goodness of the cancer burger, mwahaahaa. she'ld stop those pesky ATS'ers from outing them.
[edit on 2/7/09 by pieman]
reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 10:10 AM by marg6043
reply to post by nixie_nox
Bingo !!!! but when you are eating food that is not cook by you then this what can happened, over processed chicken that is sold to you as the best healthy choice you can have.
That is misleading and false.
At least Berger King comply with the advertising methods and now have a warning that their food have harmful ingredients that can cause cancer.
The FCC also has told KFC's to stop their advertisement using the world "eat" because it violates the rules that KFC's food is the best thing for consumption.
current.com...
Well with all that I made my case.
[edit on 2-7-2009 by marg6043]
Bingo !!!! but when you are eating food that is not cook by you then this what can happened, over processed chicken that is sold to you as the best healthy choice you can have.
That is misleading and false.
At least Berger King comply with the advertising methods and now have a warning that their food have harmful ingredients that can cause cancer.
The FCC also has told KFC's to stop their advertisement using the world "eat" because it violates the rules that KFC's food is the best thing for consumption.
"KFC's claim that its fried offerings have 'that taste you'll just love to eat' is in direct violation of federal regulations," acting FCC chairman Michael Copps said. "The word 'eat' is legally permissible only in reference to substances appropriate for human consumption. Any implication that a consumer could or should 'enjoy' a KFC Crispy Strip fails to meet these standards, and presents an unlawful deception to consumers."
current.com...
Well with all that I made my case.
[edit on 2-7-2009 by marg6043]
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