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Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by skibtz
Violence begets violence.
If officers and their departments budgets are being hurt due to idiotic acts by uniformed employees, the only real way to curb such stupidity is to make them pay for their reckless and irresponsible behavior.
I doubt that governments would tolerate having to foot the bill for violent acts being perpetrated on their citizens by overzealous officers. In time what will happen is that departments themselves will be forced to curb these atrocious acts by officers.
Yes fight, but fight the right way.
Originally posted by fatdad
people at protests should always have someone hiden from the cops view secretly filming the cops..
then when something nasty happens the cops cant take the camera....
In June 2009, Shishou was rocked by violent protest after a man was found dead, allegedly of suicide, in a government-affiliated hotel.
The man, Xu Yuan'gao, a relative of the Shishou mayor, was found on June 17, 2009.
Xu's family refused to call his death a suicide and accept compensation and guarded his body while awaiting investigation. When police and Local residents joined in, blocking the hotel entrance from the police, who wanted to take away Xu's body. On June 19, over 40,000 local residents guarded the hotel, fighting with the police, including armed police. Confrontations between the police and residents continued outside the hotel, and on June 20, the municipal government began cutting internet connections in Shishou. On June 21, the police managed to break through the crowd and took Xu's corpse to a crematorium, apparently without giving the family the investigation it had requested.
Originally posted by spellbound
reply to post by burntheships
That would be illegal in my country, and probably yours - you can always ask a policeman for his badge number.
If a police officer touches you, brushes you, etc, have him arrested on the spot for assault and battery. Call the other officers over to complain about the officer touching you. Tell them if he is not arrested you will file formal charges with the District Attorney, and contact internal affairs. Always stay calm and tell the other officers about the assault. Do not deviate, get witnesses and if all else fails feign injury.
What this does is keeps the officers on their toes. It makes them retreat to a defensive stance instead of an offensive stance.
Originally posted by Myrmecobius
I notice the police involved are humans.
Tell me, hypothetically, if an alien presence came to Earth in order to destroy humanity and claim the planet as their own, would we be entitled to resort to violence?
I would have thought so. An out-there example but the point being that violence is sometimes required, justified and indeed demanded for in order to install a peace and ensure an existence.
Originally posted by whatukno
You answered your own question.
However what your missing is that police aren't usually there to kill you. Really they aren't. The police in the op video wasn't trying to kill the woman, he was just trying to restrain her.
It's all about tactics and situational awareness.