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Do you trust Alex Jones

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posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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he ´s an insider thats for sure,

if he´s sith or jedi thats the question ,

but id like to quote X-files , the truth is closer then you think ,

by that i mean it dosent matter if he´s bad or good he tell the truth and the lies that come with the truth




posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 09:34 PM
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Sometimes I think he takes things too far. Is he starving for attention?



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 10:02 PM
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Alex Jones i dont mind him. But i somettimes wonder where he gets all his info from. He seems to be on top of everything. Alot of what he said has some truth to it. Depends on how you look at it. I dont think it has to all be fear mongering but then again Christians who are into revelations are. He is a revelations kind of guy. I see it as him protruding awareness to the populace. We might not all agree o his views but there is alot there worth thinking about.
He is the one that helped alot of my friends wake up and reasearch for themselves so ill give it to him a good handshake.
He also comes across as guy with balls. Showing us all who we can be when ti comes to grassroots actions.

[edit on 20-6-2009 by Applesandoranges]



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 10:19 PM
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I have listened to him on and off over the years and one thing is certain, he quotes Bills from memory that are in fact real and the intent of these bill's cannot be argued.....to give the Government more power over you and to remove your rights.

Whether he is a liar, shrill, fear monger or anything the previous posters have typed in this thread...he is making documentaries that he gives out for free that highlight some of the deceptions Government perpetrate onto us.

What are you doing ?


Exactly... sitting in your chair surfing the net and slandering someone who actually does something....weak.



posted on Jun, 20 2009 @ 11:04 PM
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I just said I didn't trust him. I didn't say he's a total liar. That means I have to fact check pretty much everything he says. But if he's deceptive, or he lies, well then I can't recommend him to anybody else because I wouldn't want other people to be manipulated or deceived, whether intentionally or unintentionally. Also, when he's right about something, it doesn't matter because he's already discredited himself as a reliable source for the various reasons people mentioned in this thread. So unfortunately we have to dig and find other reliable sources if we want to pass this information along to others. I wish this wasn't so, but you know darn well when you tell someone it came from Alex Jones people tend to ridicule it.

[edit on 20-6-2009 by theyreadmymind]



posted on Jun, 21 2009 @ 12:18 AM
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He has done some shady things and damaged some people over the years but I put that down to his ever growing Ego and need to tell everyone whats going on and if you disagree with him he calls you out.

He has come out more often now and bagged the Zionist's and Jewish influence in the NWO but you cannot deny he is trying as best he can ( making money along the way also ) to inform you and anyone prepared to listen that there is an elite plan to implement a New World Government with a New World Bank and eventually allow only 1 world religion.

Take it or leave it, the intricacies and idiosyncrasies of the man are something I would not consider to be very likable but its about the message not the messenger.



posted on Jun, 21 2009 @ 12:49 AM
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Of course he has an ego when he sees that sheep are happily ignorant of the truth. Irrelevant to begin with.

DON'T BELIEVE HIM! DON'T TRUST HIM! DON'T LIKE HIM! In fact, it would behoove you to hate his guts and do the work that is required to prove him wrong. Do your own research - as has been said time and time again in this thread already.

Attacks on his persona or character leave nothing but doubt in your own agendas and are completely irrelevant.

BELIEVE NOTHING - QUESTION EVERYTHING

E Messengario e no importante (or whatever...lol)

THAT is his only message when not trying to make a living.

EDIT: Well said Mazz...star for you.

[edit on 21-6-2009 by lagnar]



posted on Jun, 21 2009 @ 10:00 AM
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AJ is a good guy and all but like Stone Cold Steve Austin says "Don't trust anyone".

The only one you can TRULY trust is yourself and your intuition.

I've never led myself astray, you know what I mean?

The main reason why I don't believe AJ is that he never talks about the "alien" issue and constantly tells the "crazies" not to call him about it.

Without starting an alien debate I would just like to pose the question:

Isn't the same way people that are in the field of alien research get their "answers" the same way AJ get's his "answers". IE whistleblowers, government news articles, MSM propoganda spun to make us think otherwise etc...

The point being that the same techniques the UFO field uses to bypass the MSM BS are the same techniques AJ uses to bypass the MSM BS about what's really going on in the world.

SO WHY are the people who call his show about wanting to discuss the presence of "aliens" crazy, yet AJ using the same "research techniques" is not crazy while he tells us the "endgame".

I don't think AJ is trying to fear monger, all though he definately does, but rather show another side to the arguement of "What's going on in this crazy world".

If you get so caught up trying to "prove" every single point that AJ states your going to miss the big picture of what he is trying to tell you.

When I hear AJ talk it's always "A group of elitist bankers are currently robbing this country blind, all controlled, in order to bring in martial law so that they can set up their NWO one world-government. They will do this by setting up false-flag attacks such as September 11th, all to get the public to 'hand over' their freedoms"

Now correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that what IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? It doesn't take Alex Jones to realize that's whats going on.

My only beef with AJ is that he doesn't bring up the "alien topic". But oh well, nobody ever said we lived in a perfect world.



posted on Jun, 21 2009 @ 11:00 AM
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couldnt have said it better myself..... he is consistently emploring his listeners to do there own research...... does he overstate some things... ya... at least he is speaking volumes more truth in 1 day then the msm covers in 1 year



posted on Jun, 21 2009 @ 11:28 AM
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Nobody is right 100% of the time. It's up to you to find the truth. And you won't always be right.



posted on Jun, 21 2009 @ 11:33 AM
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I like AJ his expose of Bohemian grove taught me that truth can sometimes be stranger than fiction.He's a passionate advocate of human rights.But like all humans sometimes gets things wrong(y2k).I've seen a lot of anti AJ rhetoric on the net,And several attacks on him in the MSM.Which suggest he may be worrying some people.Also people calling him an agent ,if this is true he's a damn bad one,he has done more to highlight NWO issues to the most people than anyone else.
Here is a vid of him at his best ytube''Alex Jones - Best Rant Ever!''
(sorry don't know how to embed)



posted on Jun, 21 2009 @ 11:40 AM
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Why is it we have the same bunch of Alex Jones haters globing on a new we hate AJ thread every freaking week. Is this the weekly we hate Alex Jones meeting? Is that what this is?

Do you guys send out an IM to each other at the start of another meeting so you all can attend?

This is weak and pathetic. Troll meeting in progress. Nothing to see here move along, to something of real interest to people who are seeking information not just some meeting of AJ haters venting their spleens.



[edit on 6/21/2009 by UFOTECH]



posted on Jun, 21 2009 @ 11:46 AM
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I Don't trust anything that Zionist says!
The Obama Deception(produced by AJ but the sources are better than his own) is from better sources than his bullcrap!

we all know Obama is evil,socialist,dictator who is #1 on the list for Antichrist


[edit on 17/05/09 by Raider of Truth]



posted on Jun, 21 2009 @ 11:51 AM
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I will quickly peruse his site and maybe read something from time to time. I don't take him too seriously, though; after all, he is in the conspiracy BUSINESS. He's earning a living, remember.

I think it's funny how he and his ilk seemlessly assign the same old paranoid conspiracies to each and every new pol who comes along. Doesn't that seem a little crazy?!



posted on Jun, 21 2009 @ 12:00 PM
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Alex Jones is not unlike Beck, Hannity, Rush, Savage and other lesser and well known radio, television and Internet personalities who will take popular themes and current events to extreme, sensationalized, propagandized and even fabricated controversial points of view all for the goal of generating ratings and viral marketing of their materials and media. It is all about making money the truth is irrelevant to them, but they will spill just enough to keep people tuned in.

You should not "trust" any of these "personalities"

They are not there to inform you, they are there to make money.



posted on Jun, 21 2009 @ 12:04 PM
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Hey All first post here I have read posts on this site for ages now and thought I should post something.

I have just finished watching Alex Jones' Obama Deception and found it to be another good documentary.

Now there are always going to be people on this site (due to its nature) that will disregard anything that people say and that may even include people who are laying out information for the rest of us to pick up and expand on.

I argue that while Alex may be over the top at times, that may be seen as attention seeking it could also be seen as Passion for his country. I would further argue that if what Alex says is a lie and many on this thread have stated as such then why is it that 2 weeks before 9/11 he stated that something like this would happen and it did and as with many other things he has brought to the attention e.g;

FEMA camps
London Bombings and some background info from other more informed people.
Global Warming Hoax
Federal Resere tricks

and many more. I ask anyone here that if he were to lie in such a huge quantity and so astronomically over the top do you think that someone wouldn't point out his every mistake?

The fact is that even Alex can get things wrong, while I am sitting here in Scotland I dont know what it is like to live in America and know how effective all the small things that Alex talks about and I realise that some people out there are probably subjective to not believing whatever people like ALex says because of people like George Bush telling the American people that they must not believe in conspiracy theory. To his credit he is right, don't believe in 'theory' see life for what it really is and the truth of the matter is that just because we live 2000 years after chist was born and supposed peace doesn't mean that all tragedies that has happened since can't be repeated, we are only human after all the only thing that changes is the way in which the rich and powerful try to command and dictate the 'lower' class.

I truly believe and not through Alex Jones but other people and sources that our current era will see major damage done to this world on both physical and spiritual plains.

My key belief is to never trust just one person for your information, yes Alex Jones may be the fore runner and in many cases the first person who people new to the mass 'awakening' may come across but that doesn't mean he is the be all and end all. Like he states in nearly every episode and film EDUCATE YOURSELF.

Aaron Russo, Jordan Maxwell, Ray McGovern are a few who have insight to things and are willing to share their information EDUCATION IS KEY.

For those who dismiss everything Alex shares with us then thats just plain daft as I may not believe everythign he tells us he does share news on such things as fluoride in the watter etc its always worth a watch and read and then go on and discover new things yourself and spread the word, no-one can take care of you but you so lets do it.

Hope this post isn't too long for you all and I welcome any comments.



posted on Jun, 21 2009 @ 12:09 PM
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He's been around for quite some time now. I think if he were disseminating truly threatening information, his site would've bit the dust long ago. There may be nuggets of truth with AJ, but by and large not so much.

The biggest conspiracy with AJ I want to unravel is finding out how much he earns per year selling all his materials.



posted on Jun, 21 2009 @ 12:27 PM
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He's a passionate advocate of human rights.But like all humans sometimes gets things wrong(y2k).


Would you kindly point me to an official retraction for his Y2k ramblings which didn't occur or manifest, or an official apology offered to those who believed his rhetoric and were damaged emotionally or monetarily? It would be much appreciated.

It's a lovely slight of hand he pulls. While the full manifestation of his claims or predictions have "yet come to pass" - he merely keeps pushing back the goal post while morphing his story to incorporate new events. If one of his predictions are proven validated (even a broken clock is right twice a day), he claims vindication and berates those who mock him. When his claims are positively refuted, he attributes it to his (or others affiliated with him, or those he's pandering to) uncovering their plot and "keeping TPTB on the run". This way, he can't lose.

This is basic tabloid trash tactics, which unfortunately works all too often it seems.



posted on Jun, 21 2009 @ 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by Walkswithfish
It is all about making money the truth is irrelevant to them, but they will spill just enough to keep people tuned in.

You should not "trust" any of these "personalities"

They are not there to inform you, they are there to make money.


Huh?

Alex Jones puts all his documentaries on Youtube etc for free, he even encourages people to put them on the file-sharing networks and burn copies for their friends and family.

Isn't that shooting his own profits in the foot?



posted on Jun, 21 2009 @ 12:52 PM
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I check out his site every so often. I don't quite know what to think - sometimes I think he is just there to allow people a relief valve - so this prevents people from taking action. Other times I think he brings up useful evidence - sometimes he is just off on a trip to lala land.

I don't trust anybody - and I couldn't say if AJ is useful to resistance against the scum or not.



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