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Originally posted by beebs
reply to post by Wrong
I am repeating the words of the great one. And if you assume that anything can happen, then of course something will happen, which is a vague thing to begin with and shouldn't be considered much of a method.
Originally posted by JohnySeagull
reply to post by Wrong
If you criticize too much ,
he will throw a hissy fit,
rant a lot,
call you a sheeple for not believing him,
open new threads to have an even bigger rant and give out about sheeple who don't believe him,
rant some more
tell everybody hes leaving and not working on timewave anymore,
never answer any serious questions,
come back a day later and start it all over again.
now we don't want to have to go through all that again.
just slowly step away from the thread. he may not have spotted you. find whatever you can on timewave anywhere else on the internet and never return to this sacred place.
best of luck man. now fcking runnnnnnnnnnnn.
[edit on 13-7-2010 by JohnySeagull]
According to you, "A cheryobyl like incident" could be anything. It doesn't have to be a nuclear event. Therefore, anything would be considered correct/a hit for that statement. If you think that broadening the scope like that is going to help provide credibility to TWZ as a "science," then you would be mistaken and if TWZ is to be a "science," then be prepared to provide evidence that it is credible and be able to withstand criticism. All the sciences go through it. Scientists publish their ideas and other scientists publish how the other idea could work better or how it doesn't work at all.
Sorry for the delay everyone. Seems whatever happened, be it Oil Spill changes, Wars, Prisoner exchanges, whatever happened on July 11, it was not major enough to hit the MSM yet. This next month promises to be interesting. My next best guess, based on the graphs, is August 11. July 11 was a peak and August 11 is the corresponding Novelty/Valley date.
I hope this timewave thing proves to be simply wrong! We can only wait and see.
Just as Venus makes her closest approach to Regulus, the Moon prepares for her eclipse of the Sun. The July 11 eclipse event includes a visual alignment of 8 celestial bodies (including Comet McNaught (C/2009 R1). Although the direct view of the eclipse is limited to the southern Pacific Ocean (exact at 12:40 p.m. Pacific daylight time), the main portion of the 8-body celestial alignment continues to be visable for several days as the Moon progresses in her new monthly cycle. In fact, this alignment continues into August when Venus meets with Saturn and Mars.
This alignment is an event of great energy. That energy is magnified through the synergy of our attention. Due to the length of this celestial event, it is something many of us can experience directly. The more who experience it, the greater the synergistic impact. Our power of attention is our power to bless.
Structural Patterns Shifting
The energy of these events presents an opportunity to see our situation and our actions with clarity-and to experience the impact of making more conscious choices. The mantra for this series of events is, "Conscious action brings us all toward the destiny of radiance."
Spiritual warriorship is what is needed at this Earth :Final Conflict, not pussy-footing bedsheet-wearing hypocrites. If certain things are not completed by the time of the passing of each new ‘course-correctional timewave’ then the eventual outcome of the future changes will be lessened. For those still sitting on their fences, these timewaves coming across Creation are final wakeup calls to get down off their fences and do what it is they came here to do with whatever time they have left. And if they get yelled at once in a while to help them get down off their fences, they shouldn’t baulk at what is being said, but rather should thank that person for caring enough to help them with what it is they came here to do. The karma of not-doing is strong. The karma for knowing and not-doing is even worse. We make a choice every minute of the day whether to serve our own wills or the Higher Will, and there again your Guidance asks you –Are you doing exactly what it is you came here to do? And what is your answer? ~source
Originally posted by TheDevil
This is my first post. I've been tracking this thread forever and I envisioned that there would be a time when I'd have to chime in instead of lurking. I liked Zagari's playful nature with this as I consider it the hallmark of a good seeker. It seems that there is a difficulty in people thinking this needs to be a completely hard science. Science is failing us in a way because it insists on isolating out pieces from the whole. Holism is the only path that makes sense.
So there was some synchronicity that occurred here. Memarf1 had mentioned that something was going to happen that we would not see at first. I have no idea what his source was for that but I'm assuming it was his graph. Today I see that in the very last post he says he hasn't found what that thing is. I agree that often these events will be concealed; they will not hit mainstream media at all. Zagari had mentioned that he was messing with different graphs and didn't care what you thought about it other than what we could add. If I remember correctly he stated that it could be JULY 7th and not JULY 11th. And of course there was the idea that regardless of the date it would be a Chernobyl type event. Well, I have something:
"Why BP is readying a ’super weapon’ to avert escalating Gulf nightmare"
(from helium.com, reposted to Prison Planet, www.prisonplanet.com/why-bp-is-readying-a-super-weapon-to-avert-escalating-gulf-nightmare.html)
Now who knows what the author's sources are but I'm pretty sure a lot of this can be cross-checked and confirmed. They are readying that nuke we heard about. It sounds like something really special. Some quotes:
"While the world watches BP’s attempt to contain the oil gusher at the former Deepwater Horizon site, company officials have given the green light on an astounding plan to use what is known as a nuclear EPFCG charge if all else fails."
"Most enterprises—whether business, government, or exploration—have a Plan B to fall back on. To date, BP has attempted Plans B through N. Yet it is the last ditch plan-the Omega plan-that hold the greatest risk. Yet that plan may be the final hope to stop what some insiders now consider a catastrophe that could culminate with a world-killing mass extinction event that modern civilization could not survive.
At a super-secret security base-CFB Suffield-located in southern Alberta, Canada, area reports indicate that high level engineers, physicists and military scientists are feverishly working to complete an ‘explosively pumped flux compression generator’ (EPFCG).
According to published scientific papers [see sources below] an EPFCG generator can be powered by a very small, controlled fusion explosion-in other words, a tiny nuclear bomb."
AND HERE'S THE KICKER GUYS!:
"BP’s secret Omega Plan kicked off in earnest on July 7th, 2010. According to sources on the base the British Geological Survey (BGS), the United States Geological Survey (USGS), BP and Halliburton have set up a test site at one of the drill rigs.
While the plan would admittedly only be executed if a worst case scenario seemed imminent, some geo-chemists have expressed concerns that detonating an EPFCG in the Gulf might ignite the methane."
Originally posted by crankyoldman
The timewave does accurately show moments where we as individuals, and the collective, should become more aware of the surroundings and be open to shift and change. It is very accurate at that, but nothing more. How the collective consciousness will reflect the shifts and changes is not predictable in this method and never will be. You will never be able to say a dip = nuke as the "nuke" part is AFTER the shift in consciousness and is nothing more than a reflection of the consciousness at the time.
The inherent problem with making it science is the fatal flaw in all "future" predicting efforts - there is no future. This is where things break down, there is only the present moment, despite what your brain says, and as such, the ability to "predict" what will happen via the scientific method is impossible. BUT, we can observe trends in that moment, and we can observe the energy efforts in the various directions in that moment. Because there is no future, this fight will rage on because folks are asking the wrong question and trying to prove the wrong question as valid or not. Timewave does help guide as the Iching does.
Having said all that, and at the risk of coming off as contradictory, here is something very interesting from the Half Past Human folks. I don't know how to post to an image, but you see that their graph looks exactly like the screen shot Evasius just posted. This might not mean much, but the extreme drop in November is just the same.
What is curious about this moment is the dramatic change. A nuke would not be anything new, a M.E. war would not be anything new - war has been raging for thousands of years non-stop and another is nothing life changing. Financial collapse, it has been going on for 2 years - see Iceland. Natural disaster, look around the planet, nothing new. I would posit the notion that the event is beyond the past and will indeed ask us to look inside for the shift of 0011. What could be revealed to the planet that may cause the entire planet to hiccup, for two months, as it tries to digest the meaning of it?
Originally posted by Tgautier13
reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly
You are implying that the scientific method is objective rather then subjective. Science deals with pure reason, which in and of itself is a logical fallacy. The scientist is not separate from what the scientist observes. Newton era science would like to tell you that it no matter who if you follow the scientific procedure you will uncover the truth. This line of though began to break down in the early 1900's with the help of Sigmund Freud. He was able to point out that scientists are still humans who suffer from human neuroses, and that scientific theories can serve as elaborate rationalizations for said neuroses. We have seen examples of this since the inception of the scientific method, whenever an older out of date theory is replaced with a newer, "more logical sounding" theory.
Hermeticism taught that there was no such thing as pure reason, and that you must first work on correcting your own prejudices before trying to reason. Today you see just the opposite; scientists taking their prejudices with them into their laboratories and establishing their theories around said prejudices.
Science served humanity very well since its creation alongside the Hermetic tradition in the 1500's, but it is a relic of the past. We must look to modern Quantum Theory if we are trying to reason our surroundings, and modern Quantum Theory will tell you that there are an infinite number of parallel realities from which we can experience at any given time, and that whichever reality you are experience is a direct result of whatever your beliefs are about your surroundings at that given point in time. So, crankyoldman is correct 'from a scientific standpoint' when he says "there is only now".