you'd think that someone like the president of the united states would have to many things to do to be coming on and ordering some military guy to shave his headon a satire news show . wtf was that about . . . . Obama must have been trippin

So i would love to hear what all you people here that aren't as good a people as these soldiers think about this dumbass generals comment?





That is Command Sergeant Major Frank Grippe , The Armys Top enlisted man in Iraq.

Rushing to Judgement are we?

[edit on 12-6-2009 by TriggerFish]

First and foremost, I have seen US soldiers wait in lines for hours to see an actor that hasn't been in a movie for years. I am 100% positive that the soldiers moral was uplifted just do to Steven Colberts presents in Iraq. He went further than just visiting Iraq, he did his show from Iraq for a week. It was nothing less than amazing, and I watched every night. So if there is any debate over the soldiers being satisfied then your flat out wrong.

For the comment about the soldiers being the top 5% of Americans that is just a statistic. We don't know where those numbers are coming from so there is really no debate over that. It could be about anything.

Also, all your trash about blindly fighting for ones country is simply not true. It's not even about what the government wants. You are seeing things from the highest levels and criticizing those on the ground. Obviously from the ground they see a much clearer picture of the things that are going on in the communities, blindly fighting is not an option.

Americans are a group of people just like any other countries people. America is not perfect. However, America is pretty good. I sure am proud to be an American.

Often times people target the best and let the rest slide on their mistakes.

I hate the UK join the army commericals, anyone seen them?

I would be more likely to join the army, if I felt it was honest and that it was not trying to brainwash me!

These commercials are making the army look like a FUN game, they show women having fun with the soldiers, they make the battlefield look like a video game and ask you what you would do? in a game show way. They even show xbox 360 controller being used to controll devices in the army.

They are trying to get kids to join by brainwashing them to think it's like a videogame, it's ALL fun.

Yes the army may be fun at times, but not like that, people die, your friends die, bad crap happens, that's not fun, they don't show you that.

They tell you you gotta make yourself worth something, so join the army! as if if you don't your worth nothing.

It's all brainwashing you to join the army, like I said I would be more likely to join if I didn't feel like I'm getting brainwashed to join.

I even saw a US army commercial once, it showed a couple of young guys playing a video game, and then suddenly the soldier in the video game turns around and looks at the guys and says " you wants a REAL challenge? then join the army!"

My point is, why would I want to become the top 3% of people in the world, if I feel like I'm not joining a honest deal. Why would I sign up to protect my country when these days most soldiers are out in chaos far away, basically in "simple" terms, invading countries. where's the protecting our country bit?

Why would I sign up to be a slave, if I don't agree with something I will get arrested, and your "friends" want you to be shot for having an opinion.

Don't get me wrong, I respect the soldiers out there who join to do the right thing, they risk their lives for us, I just don't respect the "situation" these guys are in.

In the end we are all humans, soldiers are not better than non soldiers, it's truly down to the individual and what's in their heart, their motives etc

I also do not believe a king or royalty is any better than non royalty, who are we to judge such a thing, how are we to truly know who is better or not. Money? bloodline? nah such a petty thing, only what's within the person is what matters.



[edit on 12-6-2009 by _Phoenix_]

I think you guys are being a little unfair to the Sgt. Major. He is not a celebrity nor adept at performing a celebrity type interview on a comedy show. At times it was very clear that he looked nervous.

He was playing to a crowd of soldiers, the 3% and 5% crap was not meant to be negative to the viewer but positive to the audience sitting in front of him.

Plus, he appeared to be career military, most likely born into a military family.

All I am saying is cut the guy some slack, he's mid-level management in the military in a "fish out of water" scenario in the interview seat on a national TV program.

Originally posted by ChrisF231

Royal New Zealand Navy - appx 2,000/12 vessels

LOL That's not a Navy, thats a yacht club. A well armed one

I really did not enjoy the two 'Colbert Report' episodes I watched which were broadcasted from Baghdad. Now perhaps he was trying to do something nice for some of the troops, and that is most certainly commendable. However, I found both of the shows lacking much of what makes them great, and yes I feel that it gave the US military yet ANOTHER opportunity to push some of their crap propaganda.

The earlier posts concerning the General's statement of the military being the "top 3%", and the ensuing debate over America and patriotism has frankly left me with a bad taste in my mouth. Granted, our US of A has done some wonderful things over it's relatively short history, but we also have our share of hubris to contend with. Those who blindly support what we have been doing during our more recent history should consider the millions that we have adversely affected with our oft-times unilateral actions, specifically militarily. We may have been one of the greatest and most honorable of nations at one time, and we may have stood for freedom, liberty, human rights etc.....but that time has so obviously since passed us by, it's a wonder that anyone can still buy into that BS.

Fin.