New Zealand! The dam best place you could live because of its nuetrality, But even so, i dont and never will blindly defend my country, why should i? its like people who are crazy for there football team or whatever just because they are from the same town. Well i dont buy into that crap i try to judge whats best for our planet and ourselves. Unfortunatley the truth can be rather cold.

You can say what you want about the country i live in, but it makes no difference to me, because the only country i could truly love is one that was ran by me.

(3:19 am so spelling is up to f all)

[edit on 12-6-2009 by Skinon]

Originally posted by Skinon
New Zealand! The dam best place you could live because of its nuetrality, But even so, i dont and never will blindly defend my country, why should i? its like people who are crazy for there football team or whatever just because they are from the same town. Well i dont buy into that crap i try to judge whats best for our planet and ourselves. Unfortunatley the thruth can be rather cold.

You can say what you want about the country i live in, but it makes no difference to me, because the only country i could truly love is one that was ran by me.

Hey, no, I love New Zeland, I would love to visit one day. I agree that those who blindly defend a country just because they live their are mistaken. But, I also think those that attack an entire nationality are also mistake, get me?

Yea for sure, i dont mean every american, but unfortunately it is MOST of them, It really pisses me off how america has gotten so corrupt. If people woke up outta there slumber and actually thought about more then there own little world, then real change would occur! I mean soldiers have all the power, they could just say NO we are not following that order or going to war with them because thats a load of crap! why do they have to think like machines, imagine if they said hell no. Everyone would flip out and call them unpatriotic, where in reality they are bein the most patriotic of all, which is looking after the needs of the country NOT the needs of one certain class\tier of people who say do this, do that and dont question it.

I am fortunate enough to encounter alot of americans thru the town i live in and most of them are bloody good people, and it seems it has alot to do with the fact that they are travelling and actually experience the world outside of america. It is rather strange to see how ones own country is portrayed by the people or government of another country.

Originally posted by Skinon
Yea for sure, i dont mean every american, but unfortunately it is MOST of them, It really pisses me off how america has gotten so corrupt. If people woke up outta there slumber and actually thought about more then there own little world, then real change would occur! I mean soldiers have all the power, they could just say NO we are not following that order or going to war with them because thats a load of crap! why do they have to think like machines, imagine if they said hell no. Everyone would flip out and call them unpatriotic, where in reality they are bein the most patriotic of all, which is looking after the needs of the country NOT the needs of one certain class\tier of people who say do this, do that and dont question it.

I am fortunate enough to encounter a lot of Americans thru the town i live in and most of them are bloody good people, and it seems it has a lot to do with the fact that they are traveling and actually experience the world outside of America. It is rather strange to see how ones own country is portrayed by the people or government of another country.

Being from America I can tell you, "most of us are bloody good people". America has gotten overly involved in foreign policy and international affairs. For a short history lesson, the US had to be dragged into WWI kicking and screaming. Most Americans were very isolationist, same goes for WWII. Of course, since then our leaders have seen the US military as the world police. Most citizens of the US don't agree with that.

Where the US is headed I don't know. But I do know that most of the troops in Colbert's audience were there for one of two reasons. They saw the attacks on 9/11 and said not on my watch, therefore joining the armed forces. Or, they are there to collect on the GI Bill (free college tuition after a number of years of service). They are patriots and Colbert is treating them with the utmost respect.

I will be glad when the day and age arrives when the US is third or fourth on the world power list and other nations are running the world and sending their military to the hot zones. I can guarantee that the people of the world will miss the US.

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I stand behind our troops 100%. but to claim that they and they alone are the top 3% of our citizens is a joke. It is an insult to Americans as a whole. How many soldiers are in the military because they couldn't find jobs anywhere elese?

There's nothing neutral about NZ .... NZ troops fought in both Iraq and Afghanistan, both world wars, Korea, and again in Vietnam.

They have certainly done their fair share for a country who's army is smaller then my local police department. Their "air force" and "navy" leave quite a bit to be desired however.

New Zealand Army - appx 5,000
Royal New Zealand Navy - appx 2,000/12 vessels
Royal New Zealand Air Force - appx 2,500/53 aircraft and helicopters

I think it's just classic morale building, as they say, if you believe you are the best, you will act that way. It's no different to the rest of the milltary indoctrination in my opinion.

I notice the lack of detail:

"they are the top 5% of the american population"

In what? IQ? Wages? 'Human Spirit'? It's all very vague...

did anyone else notice the american flag on the right arm of the general was white and black and not red white and blue?

i thought that was weird

a black flag with white strips and where the stars are it was all black, anyone else notice it?

"The U.S.A. has accomplished more in 500 years than some countries have in 5000."

The U.S.A. has been around for 500 years????? And who says Americans are stupid uninformed idiots????? I don't know if you need a history or math class or both.

Originally posted by robertnesta
did anyone else notice the american flag on the right arm of the general was white and black and not red white and blue?

i thought that was weird

a black flag with white strips and where the stars are it was all black, anyone else notice it?

The red coats taught us a very valuable lesson in our history. Never ware red into battle it sticks out like a swore thumb.

Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
"The U.S.A. has accomplished more in 500 years than some countries have in 5000."

The U.S.A. has been around for 500 years????? And who says Americans are stupid uninformed idiots????? I don't know if you need a history or math class or both.

LOL

What's history plus or minus a few hundred years?

Originally posted by robertnesta
did anyone else notice the american flag on the right arm of the general was white and black and not red white and blue?

i thought that was weird

a black flag with white strips and where the stars are it was all black, anyone else notice it?

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The flag you are refering to is an IR flag, its purpose is cut down on friendly fire, you can not where unless you are in a combat zone.