Sarkozy: "Islamization is Inevitable"

Originally posted by eradown
reply to post by HunkaHunka

 

I dare you to read the first book written by an Islamic writer which catches your eye in Barnes and Noble. You will never want to read anything psuedo Celtic again.

It holds no interest for me... I'd rather read Jean Markale's history of the Druids...

You don't get it do you... if it ain't from my tribe, I ain't interested....

If Islam is the tradition of your tribe, well then that's great... My tribe has stories of people like great warrior women who had mighty power...

How many warrior women does Islam tout? Rabia? Ok... Rabia is a wonderful mystic, don't get me wrong... but a warrior who united many tribes she was not... And the men of her time sought not to venerate her... but to WED HER! What an INSULT!

As a matter of fact, the only thing about Islam that is even halfway interesting are the sufis...

You know what I really find refreshing about Celtic beliefs? There was no SIN other than coming to a standstill in your life. Oh there was morality... but it had nothing to do with the Gods... the Gods rarely paid attention to the affairs of men and women... Morality was something amongst the peoples... Yeah... responsibility to your fellow man as opposed to some fake God... how about that!

Yep, I typically warm my home by burning korans, talmuds, and other rubbish in the fireplace of my Celtic Great Hall... while I invite Lugh in to play chess and drink plenty of great wine...

Long Live the Pagan Gods of Europe! I celebrate the death of Monotheism in all it's forms, even at the hands of Atheism... Why? Because it has become a perversion of anything it ever was...

The new mankind will be able to form it's own beliefs based on it's motives and will not be like weak children requiring some diety to make false promises in order to have meaning in life, but will create beautiful new self authored myths, which are relevant to their situation...








[edit on 9-6-2009 by HunkaHunka]

reply to post by artvandalay


Sorry Art... this is about an Islamic Europe that the Catholics are throwing up in an attempt to keep the Gay marriage and Abortion issues out of the EU...

This other poster seems to believe that Islam is a Fresh Vision...

I've said my peace... I think he realizes how much of a barbarian I am, and how Europe will never again fall to the lies of a false God

As a matter of fact, Atheism is sweeping over Europe as we speak.

And that is very relevant because it's a force that many haven't even seen coming and will define the face of the new Europe...

Gay Marriage and Atheism... A beautiful mixture...






[edit on 9-6-2009 by HunkaHunka]

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Gay Marriage and Atheism... A beautiful mixture...
[edit on 9-6-2009 by HunkaHunka]

beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I don't see through your eyes...............

reply to post by blueorder


Keep in mind, my brand of atheism is one in which we remove the concepts of God we have today... and realize these are temporal and indicative of today.

For humans to continue to believe in an authority out side of themselves is pointless..

We need to become our own God, if we are to believe in any God...

And surely if we are to adopt a God that is outside of ourselves, then it should at least be the God of our tribe, and not some random tribe like the Hebrews...

Get in touch with where you are from and why you believe the way you do... and you will be surprised what you will find...

Islamisation of not only France but other European countries is indeed inevitable, but what people are missing out are the consequences to this event.

Look at the European elections which took place this week-end and the success of many right-wing and extreme right-wing parties, such as in Holland, Italy, Austria and of course the UK, although marginally.
Why do you think that is? Is it because people dislike the EU? Not really; what people dislike is the EU immigration policy. That's what's driving people in voting these exteremist parties, and things are going to degenerate (subjective) even more during the next few years.

Don't be surprised if fascist regimes will go in power in the next 5-10 years. Believe it or not, what we are going to witness is a rebirth of the old Nazi regime, although it will be camouflaged in a way that it doesn't look so, both by the governments propaganda machine and of course by the ignorance of the masses who have been constantly brainwashed.

(Btw, the US will play a major role in this...4th Reich anyone?)

reply to post by Estess


The US won't be a player in the Fourth Reich movement, as the US is about to be financially and politically crippled.

The EU is going to be compelled to spend their own money for their own defense, as Big Brother is going to be dead.

Don't worry.

You'll figure it out.

Now if we in the US can do the same.

reply to post by dooper


I have to contradict with your view on the US as it won't be the only crippled country in terms of the economy. As you know, the modern financial system is a global interconnected system. If one major country goes down, so will the others. Do you think that the crisis hasn't been felt here in Europe? Things are actually getting worse here. And this is just the beginning.

Anyway, this (the so-called "islamization") won't be a financial issue, but an ideological one.

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The US is gonna be fine in the end. The Liberal Core is doing a fine job of getting the working warrior class fired up. Mark my words we will see a return to honor and dignity in this great country! Better enjoy the next 4 years Soros, were coming for you first! Justice and redemption are the most two beautiful words in the English Language. If you are openly Islamic it might be a good Idea to think about relocating to maybe Canada sometime in VERY NEAR FUTURE!!!

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reply to post by Estess


The Air France plane that went down. The US has the stuff to find the black box if it's still beeping. We have the technology, we have the means. Got a problem? Call the US.

Your country's shoreline is destroyed by a tsunami? Call the US. The GO-TO GUYS.

You had a series of terrible earthquakes and need everything? Call the US. They have what you need.

Got a border neighbor with a hungry look on his face looking at your fine green fields, your cities, your rivers? Call the US. They'll keep the bad guys at bay.

Got starvation and economic disaster and your people are dropping like flies? Call the GO-TO-GUYS at the US.

Need high-tech military goods to assist you by looking over your shoulder to protect you from potential high tech enemies? That's right. Call the best at high-tech weapons system and let them be you ally.

Your country was overrun? Who you gonna call?

Well, our piggy bank that finances all this is about empty.

Folks are going to have to start doing for themselves. Won't be easy, as everyone's having a hard time.

All those social programs you could afford because you didn't have to have a viable, strong military establishment spending billions of your dollars?

Free ride is about over.

You outside the US will have some hard choices.

Big brother isn't going to be there to soften the rough spots.

reply to post by Estess

The only reason things are getting worse here is because of our Islamic wannabe little boy for a president and his pathetic and obvious power grab by trying to destabilize our economy. You've seen a million man march, How about 5 million pissed as hell Battle Brothers! WE ARE GONNA TAKE THE FRIEKING POWER BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

reply to post by Dredulous


Well his power grab is succeeding.

Hell, look at what he's done in six months!

And we're supposed to be able to reverse all this crap FOUR YEARS from now?

dooper: As I said, the effect of the coming crisis will be felt worldwide so it won't be a question of whether the US or another power goes down first, as eventually, all other countries are dragged down along with it.

Dredulous: As I said, the issue isn't financial, but ideological, like it was during the Nazi era. As a matter of fact, the financial collpase will intensify and enhance hatred towards these other religious groups. Why? Simple, in times of weakness people tend to blame others considerably more.

reply to post by dooper
No, it will take far longer Im afraid. But there is a battle that has been a long time in the making. At last Im starting to see people wake up Im in my mid 20s me and others my age are supposed to have fallen under the pide pipers spell, right? We are NOT, my grandfather and his generation did not sacrifice life and limb only to be disgraced by and illegal imigrant! We saw what has been preached at colleges for all this time! We see the attempt at turning the working class into the slave class by the weak and decietful. Will the near future be easy? NO it wont but when all is said and done and justice is served. The hardworking American will return to his rightful place. FOR THIS IS AMERICA!!! THIS IS SPARTA!!!

reply to post by Estess
Yes its very much the case that many will be blamed. See the libs in this country have done a fine job of attempting to insulate themselves from attack by putting less guilty parties on there band wagon much the same way our enemies put innocents in front key military targets. The thing of it is with our world population approaching critical levels, it will be coming down to who is going to survive to see the future. 2059 pop. 1.5 billion. Sorry things just are not gonna be pretty!

Originally posted by dooper

Well his power grab is succeeding.

Hell, look at what he's done in six months!

And we're supposed to be able to reverse all this crap FOUR YEARS from now?

I'm not sure any more what Obama's real agenda is any more.

He's pushed for programs from his days of thinking "One day when I'm President."

But as far as macroeconomics he's a deer caught in the headlights. He listens to advice from his coterie of experts because he hasn't a clue how to solve the mess.

He doesn't know how to say "No" to the big money people, and they can see it. So he just writes another cheque foe $100 Billion whey they tell him he has no other choice.

Americans though the smooth talker minority guy was the antidote to Bush & co. He may know dirty Chicago backroom tricks. He's at sea as the new captain helicoptered onto the Titanic.


Mike

Originally posted by artvandalay

Sarkozy: "Islamization is Inevitable"

www.brusselsjournal.com

We knew what Sarkozy's vision of the future was: an "Islam of France", "métissage" between races and ethnic groups, dissolution of nationalist, regional, and ethnic identities, subjugation to Brussels, openness to socialism, and a Turkey as closely aligned with Europe as possible, etc...

...the first sentence of the media source's article was left out... it said, "There is nothing new here."... why was the opening sentence censored by the op?... could it be because theres nothing new here?... that'd be my bet... its just the same old hooey - promoting fantasy, promoting christianity at the expense of another religion and, of course, promoting radical christians' pet projects (demonizing gay marriage and abortion)...

...sarkozy is addicted to spreading paranoia and is as credible as world nut daily... islam is as viable a religion as christianity... fanatical islamics are as dangerous as fanatical christians... comparing the worst aspects of the two religions is like comparing being eaten by a lion to being eaten by a shark - both suck...

Sarkozy has made himself a joke...dont think people even take him seriously anymore.

I've heard about the degration tactics used by media ever since France and Germeny opposed strongly against US invasion of Iraq.

France this, France that. I'm not saying France is all innocent. But it's been a victim of ridiculous media teases.

reply to post by wisdomnotemotion


For your information,
I am a French native, living in the US.

Originally posted by dooper
You outside the US will have some hard choices.

Big brother isn't going to be there to soften the rough spots.

Good,

That could actually save us a nuclear holocaust.

edition.cnn.com...

PARIS, France (CNN) -- The French National Assembly announced Tuesday the creation of an inquiry into whether women in France should be allowed to wear the burka, one day after President Nicolas Sarkozy controversially told lawmakers that the traditional Muslim garment was "not welcome" in France.


A cross-party panel of 32 lawmakers will investigate whether the traditional Muslim garment poses a threat to the secular nature of the French constitution. They are due to report back with their recommendations in six months.

Last week 57 lawmakers -- led by communist legislator Andre Gerin -- signed a petition calling for a study into the feasibility of legislation to ban the burka in public places.

On Monday Sarkozy declared in a keynote parliamentary address that the burka, which covers women from head to toe, is "not welcome" in France.

"The problem of the burka is not a religious problem. This is an issue of a woman's freedom and dignity. This is not a religious symbol. It is a sign of subservience; it is a sign of lowering. I want to say solemnly, the burka is not welcome in France," Sarkozy told lawmakers.

The right of Muslim women to cover themselves is fiercely debated in France, which has a large Muslim minority but also a staunchly secular constitution. Should Muslim women in France be banned from wearing the burka? Sound Off below

In 2004, the French parliament passed legislation banning Muslim girls from wearing headscarves in state schools, prompting widespread Muslim protests. The law also banned other conspicuous religious symbols including Sikh turbans, large Christian crucifixes and Jewish skull caps.

Last year, France's top court denied a Moroccan woman's naturalization request on the grounds that she wore a burka.

Some lawmakers have called for burkas to be banned completely, claiming they are degrading to women. They also include housing minister Fadela Amara, a Muslim-born women's rights campaigner, who has called the garment "a kind of tomb for women."

"We cannot accept in our country women trapped behind a fence, cut off from social life, deprived of any identity. This is not the idea that we have of a woman's dignity," Sarkozy said Monday.

But French Muslim leaders say that only a small minority of women wear the full veil and had previously criticized calls for the issue to be the subject of a parliamentary inquiry.

"To raise the subject like this, via a parliamentary committee, is a way of stigmatizing Islam and the Muslims of France," Mohammed Moussaoui, the head of the French Council for the Muslim Religion, told AFP last week.

"We are shocked by the idea parliament should be put to work on such a marginal issue."


France is not the only European Union country to have considered banning the burka. Dutch lawmakers voted in favor of a ban in 2005, although the government of the time was defeated in elections before it could pass legislation to outlaw the garment.