Originally posted by eradown
reply to post by HunkaHunka
Lets establish vocabulary powers that be are not the Gov., although the powers that be do control who will be elected and what those people do.
The powers that be belong to families which have untold billions of dollars and own many international companies. When I say they have made their bias
against families known I don't mean they just set in their limos and sneer at families. In foriegn third world countries ,they actually do forcibly
sterilize women.
Could you please define "they"? And provide support for this stance please.
They even give speeches on why we must not have more than one child.
Again, could you please provide evidence of this. If it is in a speech, I would expect evidence of this should exist.
Their pro abortion propaganda hurts my eyes and insults my intelligence ,but forced sterilizations should be stopped.
Who are these people? I can understand how pro-choice propaganda can be as disturbing to those who see abortion as murder, as pro-life propaganda
can be to those who see abortion as a valid route for a woman to choose.
Again, there are folks like you who feel that women shouldn't be able to choose because you feel it is murder, and there are folks like the women I
know who believe this is more about choice in extreme circumstances.
I would agree, though on the whole forced sterilization thing, it shouldn't occur anywhere.... it really shouldn't have happened to
Alan Turing either. He was responsible for Britain's success in code cracking during WWII and
the law at that time castrated him because he was a homosexual...
The powers would love to do in this country what they have done in the third world.
Why? I don't get this...
Do not make the mistake of thinking the powers that be are free thinkers who live and let live. You end up on the wrong side of an issue with them,
you should prepare for grief.
No TPTB are humans... after the pursuit of human power, like in every other era of human existence... That's just the way it goes... there are very
few exceptions in the history of the world,unless you literally believe in the Golden Age concept.
I do not care if they like families; I just want them to leave families alone. Many people are being bankrupted by CPS.
How does CPS bankrupt people?
Poor people are losing their children and never learning of the fate of their kids ,but enough horror stories are coming out about that system to
turn your hair white.
My hair is already white... but I know there are crazy things going on... no doubt about that... but once again, this isn't TPTB... this is general
human negligence....
For example, when I was in Junior High, I exhibited Manic Depressive behavior... so my mother took me to a Psychiatrist... this Psychiatrist said that
I would never become anything, and that my mother should make me ward of the court and place me in a state mental institution. Good think for me, my
mother found a psychologist who knew that the medication I was on for Epilepsy, was found to cause manic-depression after 7 years of use... prescribed
some lithium, and for the remainder of the time I had epilepsy and required the original meds, there was no more issues from the side effects. Of
course I grew out of epilepsy.. and am fine now... My point being, that it's simply human for this type of negligence and horror stories to occur
and is not tied to any specific power that be...
Yes, I do connect the hate these elites pour out in their propagnda for families with the terrible fate of foster kids abused in custody.
I was also a foster child for a short while, but was lucky enough that they went to the same church as my grandmother, so while my mother had me in
foster care as she worked through some issues with my father, I spent that time in foster care.
My half sister was not as lucky and she did have some very negative experiences....
Once again, there were no powers that be in these cases... simply a bad system and in the case of my half sister, which occured in my fathers first
marriage, subject to very negligent parents. Sad... but common...
I think the women who are as ambitious and intelectual as you describe were never as bare foot and pregnant as you seem to think they were.
Actually, their mothers were. Everyone of the women I know who took this route was in some way motivated by what they saw at home.
Only twenty percent of the population ever became that educated. That percent will never change. The elitists will never allow more than twenty
percent of the population to become novelists and such.
Are you even listening to yourself? Have you even BEEN TO A BOOKSTORE RECENTLY? Seriously... can you say Twilight... Sooky Stackhouse.... Need...
The list goes on and on... there is no end to the list of titles written by women my wife brings through the front door...
Hell my wife is writing a novel as we speak! I got a technical book published once and in Borders and Barnes & Nobles... which was cool... but the
point is... Elitists have no interest in keeping women from writing novels.. and if they do.. they are doing a horrible job!
Sorry.. that one actually cracked me up... you got to admit
Those women for the most part do not worry about CPS stealing their kids. They never produced that many kids to begin with ;so, they are not
responsible for the population decline.
Of course some of these women are not worrying about CPS stealing their kids... in some cases.. they don't have any kids!!!!
But in the cases that they do...
Keep in Mind JK Rowling was a broke mother of I think it was three kids, and couldn't afford childrens books so she made up stories... and now look
at her...
If not the poor.. then who are these PTB targeting?
The middle class are not marrying.
Ok, now this will be an interesting statistic if you can provide some proof, but I'm likely to believe you without it. Ask yourself why
though....
And why does it even matter if the middle class aren't marrying... it's an outdated concept anyway...it's great for some, but it should never be
something which is expected of people to do. That was the older version of oppression that people are throwing off.. I mean in India, they still have
arranged marriages for goodness sake!
Librarians, nurses , secretaries are choosing to remain alone and it is not because they hate children or want to write a book. They do not want to
end up divorced and raising children in poverty.
I'm sorry but in the pool of single professional women I know, they all like to get with guys... but find that Men are non committal... surprise
surprise....
I don't know any woman who is single who uses fear as an excuse for their lifestyle choice...
Young man my concept of women is based on reality. Your concept of women appears to be based on slogans and advertisments.
Nope, at 36 years of age, my concept of women is based on the ones which have surround me. Now granted, some of these are very slogan minded women
themselves... but others are very enlightened about their sense of awareness...
All the way from my Mother who was the bread winner in my house, to many of the professional women I know, these women don't all want the same thing,
but they all want the ability to choose for themselves what that thing is, and not to have it dictated to them by something someone else wants. They
are individuals.
And they are all college educated... some of them with Masters Degrees ... funny thing is, I, the male in the group... barely graduated from High
School lol....
If you read the newspaper you would know indigent old women who have no relatives are being carted off to nursing homes. Twenty years ago it was not
uncommon to hear of old people staying in nursing homes several years. Now days nursing homes are like roach motels for old people.
First of all, my mother spent most of her career in geriatrics. I do know there are faculty which cares, and faculty which are abusive... once again,
this is a human issue, not a TPTB issue...
There is an issue now with nursing homes wanting to keep patients there, so they can continue to justify their own existence under the healthcare
system of today... but that's not an intent, it's a side effect of a lame healthcare system.
Read up on eugenics and you would not believe this accidental.
Believe me... it is... as I said... my mother spent most of her career in geriatrics, at one point managing a 120 room facility. I even worked in one
of them when I was in high school. My Mother was one of the Angels.. I saw her fire more people for mistreating people than anything else. She
eventually went to work for the state survey team auditing facilities and looking for mistreatment. She was a stickler lemme tell ya.
She then moved on to Hospice Homecare, and still does that today at 61...
I almost grew up in nursing homes... so don't tell me about how it's TPTB...
It's your fellow man
[edit on 8-6-2009 by HunkaHunka]
