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Sarkozy: "Islamization is Inevitable"


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Topic started on 7-6-2009 @ 03:31 PM by artvandalay


Sarkozy: "Islamization is Inevitable"


www.brusselsjournal.com

We knew what Sarkozy's vision of the future was: an "Islam of France", "métissage" between races and ethnic groups, dissolution of nationalist, regional, and ethnic identities, subjugation to Brussels, openness to socialism, and a Turkey as closely aligned with Europe as possible, etc...

We will see the first transformations of churches into mosques in the coming three years.
(visit the link for the full news article)



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 03:31 PM by artvandalay


Pretty bleak vision of the future but it is unfortunately a realistic one.

I disagree with the gay marriage and mass abortion being an important part of this process.

Westeners have the best infant survival rate and the best condition of living of all groups and therefore do not need to produce as many offspring as others do(to ensure a positive survival rate, to help or to have as many males as possible.)

The same way, i can see Texas being a majority of Mexicans in the future.

Maybe this is temporary and the newcomers in the comfort of our advanced society will start adopting the reproductive habits of our society.


www.brusselsjournal.com
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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 03:39 PM by tothetenthpower


I think its a bit ridiculous to say that any Muslims want to push their views on the rest of the world. The extremist ones do, but they only make up a small majority.

I mean, we could have said the same thing 200 years ago about France and Christianity.

The French government is afraid of it's people. They french riot all the time.

So I dont' see it happening there. Perhaps in the UK, but not France.

~Keeper



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 03:39 PM by ModernAcademia


ya..... I don't think so

not at all at good picture of the future

sureee..... the one's being mass-murdered and mass-oppressed will be the future... ooookaayyyyyy



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 04:01 PM by milesp


C'mon we all know that science and atheism is the wave of the future.

The religious people are killing each-other off!



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 04:02 PM by Aceofclubs


sadly i think unless something is done to stop it thats how its going to be.so all the femanists/gays better enjoy what thay got coz its gonna be gone soon enough here take a look at this i found the project and part 2

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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 04:05 PM by andy1033


In reality they are just going to secularize islam. This is what is going on. They have to bring those to the west to get them to slowly water down islam. Just like they did with Christianity in the west it took years.

As long as one day we become one gender too, i will be happy, of course i will not be living then.



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 04:19 PM by artvandalay


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All the outlines of this "project" are in their official book "the Koran"...it clearly shows their plans.



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 04:41 PM by Aceofclubs


yes but if you bring the koran up the anser is always you must read and under stand it in full to comment this just shows that you don`t. its as clear as day what the plan is

andy 1033 i hope your right.. not the single sex bit the other bit



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 05:50 PM by mmiichael


Originally posted by milesp
C'mon we all know that science and atheism is the wave of the future.

The religious people are killing each-other off!


I used to believe what you said in the first sentence. After seeing what's happening in the last few years I don't any more.

Religious people may be killing each other off, but they're also the only ones having babies these days. The scientific atheists are having smaller families or none at all.

There's strength in numbers. Religion and emotional logic are wining, science and rationalism are losing.

Inshallah.


Mike



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 06:47 PM by Matrix Rising


Of course this will happen.

The way Europe and the West has destroyed the family through abortion and gay marriage, it is inevitable. Arabs still have huge families because they don't kill off there babies just for the hell of it. If a young girl gets pregnant and wants to party some more she just kills the baby.

The danger of this is not Islam but radical Islam. The radicals will always rule the day because they are will to do more in order to gain power like kill anyone in their way.

With Obama, he wants to welcome radical groups like Hamas, Hezbollah and others onto the world Government stage. Just think of the Nazi's. All it takes is a little power and then you can expand your power and eventually take over.

These radical groups should be taken out and not given any legitamacy but Obama is welcoming them with open arms.



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 07:01 PM by dooper


The "inevitably" portion is due to the fact that the "peaceful" Muslims cannot argue with the fanatical Muslims as the fanatical Muslims can quote the Qur'an and the Hadith, chapter and verse.

Dominance is and has been the stated intention of Islam. There can be no religion but Islam, and we'll all follow the letter of the extremist demands, or we'll be executed.

In the process, everyone becomes miserable, civilization falls back several hundred years, and advances of "civilization" will be reversed.

Talk about no tolerance? Gays - executed. Women - property. Tolerance - executed.

It won't take gentle decades. Once they are close to becoming a majority, the game is over.



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 07:19 PM by artvandalay


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agreed.
Check my other thread : Islam will win



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 07:26 PM by whaaa


As Muslims enter western society they are corrupted by porn, banal entertainment, fast food, liquor and drugs just like everyone else and their once ridged structure weakens and they are eventually assimilated.

European young Muslims only pretend at being religious. Sarkozy is a politician not a sociologist. Most politicians don't know ****

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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 07:31 PM by artvandalay


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I have noticed that while some seem to integrate some western habits, i also noticed that some react the opposite way and become even more religious maybe as a way to resist westernisation and conserve their identities.

anyway your reply reminded me of this hilarious article.



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 07:31 PM by dooper


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Well, in a society that is so sexually repressed, those young men will indeed spend the night before in a titty bar and early the next day blow themselves up on a bus full of people.

The women are covered from head to toe and about as attractive as a sack of potatoes, you can't date without family members being participants, and after all, your marriage is arranged anyway.

If you're a pup yourself and have a crush on a young girl, she's liable to be "arranged" to be married to a 55-year-old pervert.

It's a wonderful existence.

No wonder Muslims enjoy killing Christians and Jews. Everyone else is enjoying their lives while the Muslim young men are so damned miserable.

What a choice.



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 07:58 PM by mmiichael


Originally posted by whaaa
As Muslims enter western society they are corrupted by porn, banal entertainment, fast food, liquor and drugs just like everyone else and their once ridged structure weakens and they are eventually assimilated.

European young Muslims only pretend at being religious. Sarkozy is a politician not a sociologist. Most politicians don't know ****




Tens of millions of Western people don't watch porn, eat fast food, drink or use drugs.

If Muslims come from a more rigid (the word you want) structured society, it would be expected they are more disciplined in avoiding destructive influences. Isn't that what Islam is supposed to teach.

Western kids buy into these vices through bad upbringing. If the Muslim faith teaches these things are wrong, what excuse do they have?

Coming into a room with a bottle on a table does not mean you have to drink from it.

Mike



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 08:32 PM by wookiee


Originally posted by milesp
C'mon we all know that science and atheism is the wave of the future.

The religious people are killing each-other off!


True, but we'll be caught in the cross-fire.
And if anything, the religious enjoy killing heathens more than killing those who have different make-believe friends.



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 08:46 PM by eradown


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Sarkozy is telling the truth. Hindus predicted Islam would become the predominate religion many years ago. Middle easterners are AB+; their women are the most fertile women on earth. The people who say they would never convert to Islam don't know what they are talking about. If the Arabs were not good teachers and story tellers, they would not have brought down the Byzantine empire. They did not use violence alone.This is the true meaning of the thousand year reign of peace.



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reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 09:00 PM by Jacob08


It's not inevitable at all. If Europe adopted an immigration policy similar to that of Japan or South Korea it wouldn't happen. Something inevitable is something beyond your control. Europe will become a majority muslim continent only if they continue to want that to happen.



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