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reply posted on 1-6-2009 @ 02:36 PM by rb4971
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Originally posted by 27jd
I agree that my government has made quite a few messes, I couldn't agree more. But again we're not the only ones doing this, Russia does it, China does it, the UK does it, everybody with any real global influence does it. This is a global agenda, and the key players are not all sitting in the US.

Of course the UK does it too
but most of those countries mentioned do it locally within their own countries
their corruption isn't global, it's within the country

Originally posted by 27jd
Our "leaders" make out with each other, while convincing us to hate each other, they laugh behind closed doors at us all, like kids shaking a jar of bugs to make them fight. I want my country to be as great as it can be, and constructive criticism is fine, but some of the outright insults get real old. Ya know?

Ya it's like Jesse Ventura said
Politics is like wrestlign, they pretend to hate each othe but are all friends in the locker room.

The insults are like a broken record, but at the same time it's not mentioning the same thing over and over again.
There's new current events everyday to speak of.

But you just should just remember
People being anti-american govt. shouldn't give you shame

Out all the entire globe, americans giving to charities is very much something to spothlight.

Just be happy that you aren't in China, where the people allow oppression.
It's taking so long in the U.S. because they wouldn't just allow it.

These are the things to be proud of!

Did you see the young american teenagers protesting during the republican covention?
AMAZING!


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reply posted on 1-6-2009 @ 04:19 PM by zeineguy48
reply to post by ModernAcademia


Didnt read the article, dont need to. Since i am canadian i will relate what i know. Many years ago, an ELITE army core from canada was in Africa doing "peace core" work. And after they had done their mission it was found out cause someone had a concience that there were rapes, sodomy etc that happened while they were doing their job. fotos etc. This Elite group were tried and convicted. they were disbanded.

What people dont understand, and I am NOT condoning these actions from any military in the world. IS that these soldiers are brain washed. Plain and simple. To do the job that is required of them, they have been propped up, told they are above whoever they are fighting against, etc etc.
So when they actually do their "job" they feel above the law. and the mentality that in order to be higher/ teach those that they are the subserviant. TO show that they are below them ,and in some peoples mind that means sexually too. This is not the first time it has happened thru the wars of the world, and it wont be the last.
To hate and use this against having troops and fighting wars is absurd!!
I do not and never will condone or agree that the war in Iraq was nessecary. But if you are soo upset with what is happening then direct your anger at those that should be responsible for this. Starting with Bush, Cheney and the Generals, They KNOW what is going on and what will happen. And until they are brought forward to explain why they allowed this to happen, nothing is actually going to be done. Maybe a few court marshals, etc. But you try the person at the top and heads will roll.. cause they are TRAINED to protect their own A$$.


reply posted on 1-6-2009 @ 06:31 PM by Nunny
reply to post by ModernAcademia


Apparently? Appear to? Said to? People who post things like this should be ashamed. Until they are FACT, anything like this is just stirring the pot. Not to mention that a couple of soldiers are supposed to be representative of all of the soldiers there?


reply posted on 1-6-2009 @ 07:29 PM by hal5000
reply to post by Dr Love


Here Here! Well said. Anyone who defends this kind of degradation and violations of human decency should be considered dangerous and a threat to civilised society and the people who commit these acts should be summarily executed.


reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 07:13 AM by LyricusMagna
Originally posted by network dude
I love ATS, where anyone who makes the news is GUILTY untill people get tired of dragging them through the mud. Hey! Here is an idea, how about we find out if any of this is true before we get the ropes in the trees? The ones here pissing and moaning about how bad the US millitary is should do themselves a favor and find a nice country to go to. Chavez said you can go there! Just bring your AC unit. It will get hot. If soldiers were told to do this, then the command that ordered it will get found out. Once the media gets a hold of evidence, it will be everywhere. Since there is no evidence as of yet, how about we put the pitch forks down.


I believe rape photos are enough evidence? Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe sufficient evidence is a photo with a head stuck on a spike and an american soldier smiling at the camera? Dead bodies? Is that what we want as evidence? What the hell do you want?

Even if the theory that these soldiers were "ordered" to do what they did by their superiors or whoever they take orders from, it still doesn't make them any less guilty, and i think the main reason why the photos are still not approved for release is that whoknows hoe many people are involved there, not necessarily people who did the rapes and torture but people who knew about it and kept their silence.

Originally posted by jjkenobi
I still support "the troops". Out of all the armed forces how many were stationed at Abu? 1%? .01%? And how many there were involved in abuse? Half of them? People who already hate the armed forces use speculative stories like this to reinforce their existing beliefs.


I see ... And how exactly do you know this for sure? Whatever i don't wanna know.

I know the same thing happened, and is still happening in Guantanamo Bay.

Hello? Did you forget about that one?
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