DVDs that store 10,000 films

Sometimes, I have to wonder whether or not we have been helped, are still being helped, or just have stumbled on alien tech etc....

www.telegraph.co.uk...

In the article, is is said: "Professor Min Gu, who led the research in Melbourne, Australia, aims to eventually produce discs that could contain as much data as 200,000 DVDs"

Now, lets stop for a moment and think about this. Running off memory, about 15 years ago, if you had a x4 CD rom, your pc was pretty impressive, and as you know a CD can hold 700MB. A double layered DVD is 8.5GB (12 times a CD)

This guys is talking about developing a DVD that can hold as much as 200 000 DVD's! That is 2.4Million times as much as a CD! Still off in the future although. But, the 10 000DVD version is expected to be available in 5 years.....

So, in 20 years we will be able to have 120 000 CD's worth of data on a DVD - which is physically the same size. I find it hard to believe that we have progressed so far and QUICKLY just with our human ingenuity?? Not long ago we 8 Tracks and tapes - Now THIS!

What do you guys think?

Thats wild! Sure would free up a lot of room where I store my DVD's lol. But I get what you mean, 20 years ago, the idea of the information storage we have now was unheard of. Its like something exploded in technology.

Up until the end of the century, we didnt' progress that quickly in any field it seemed. But just in the last 10-15 years, think about what we have seen. Blu Ray, Wifi, Google, Bluetooth, Ipods, Laptops, just to name a few. Its mind boggling to think what we will have in another ten years if we keep going at this rate

Just a nidpick from me. New "dvds" are not dvds its Blu Ray technology that needs the large space for HD which takes huge amounts of data. But your right it is still all amazes how fast we have come in 20 years of lazer disk technology. Another tidbit of Blu Ray is that it was developed 10 years ago imagine what will be out in another 10 years

edit: Damn stereovoyaged beat me to it

[edit on 21-5-2009 by jman1a]

Exactly - Mind Blowing is an understatement!

What really caught my eye was this:

"The new disc stores information using two extra "dimensions" - the colour of light and the direction, or polarisation, of light waves."

How the hell does it use these 2 dimensions to capture data? I have know idea? But very interesting. Yes, you are right when it comes to space saving, this would be great

imagine getting a scratch on one of those super dvds.... better take good care of them!

Another tidbit of Blu Ray is that it was developed 10 years ago imagine what will be out in another 10 years

That's what I'm thinking - and then to get your mind racing even further - what does the US government and the rest of the worlds black ops have and are working on. A lot of hi-tech stuff filters out of military projects and then to the public.

I can remember watching Star Trek when I was a kid - maybe 25 years ago, and seeing Kirk talking on a hand held device basically video conferrencing, and my Dad laughing and saying that would never happen, at least in his life time (just the thought of a phone that had no wire - to him that was mad).

Now I can all this with my blackberry - makes you think what else we are seeing on TV now will be reality in 25 years.....Beem me up Scotty

This is great... but how much would one of them blank discs cost?? Remember when DVD's came about and they were like £20 a disc - some places cost even more.

More to the point I posted for, the reason we have come this far in so little time is simple. We create a CD, then scientists think hmmm this is good, how can we fit more onto it? Then we created the DVD which was fantastic, the DVD was a stepping stone of the highest point, because from there all they needed to do was mess around with the way the data is stored. It's the same as SD Cards, pretty soon we'll be seeing SD Cards which can hold more than my computer... Terrabytes of information on one small item. The possibilites are endless and the future certainly looks bright for technology.

I could believe it. Our technological advance ments are 'snowballing', meaning that we are progressing rapidly. In the last 100 years we have progressed much more than the 1000 years before it.

reply to post by Estharik


There is another conspiracy for ya, they can glue a damn plane together but not produce a cd/dvd that doesn't scratch so easily? I am positive they did that on purpose to add to their revenue when people damage their discs.

Wouldn't that mean that hardrives themselves could be almost limitless as well?
And technology itself should be commonly owned collectively. I treat all patents as crimes against humanity.

reply to post by mystiq


I agree it should be open sourced, but peopel should get recognition for their work. There is no need for the man who invented Teflon to go hungry.

Holographic discs will probably be in use in the next 10 years or so i think en.wikipedia.org... .Blue-ray will probably become standard in about 4 or 5 years.

End Times = Greater increase in knowledge and travel . . .

and to think someone tried to argue with me that there has not been a huge increase in knowledge in the last 100 years.

reply to post by Solomons


Wow - Great link, Thanks! This is why I love ATS, the members are always posting stuff that you have never heard of before or seen. This place is a huge information repository.

To think that in 1986, my first computer (an XT) ran at 12Mhz, had a 20MB Hard drive, 360K Floppy Disk, and now we have these wonderful storage capacities. Good Times

Originally posted by TortoiseKweek
Exactly - Mind Blowing is an understatement!

What really caught my eye was this:

"The new disc stores information using two extra "dimensions" - the colour of light and the direction, or polarisation, of light waves."

How the hell does it use these 2 dimensions to capture data? I have know idea? But very interesting. Yes, you are right when it comes to space saving, this would be great

Does that mean we can use these extra 2 dimensions ?

And if so where did they come from?

That must mean these dimensions exist therefore there must be more to the universe than the 3 ( 4 being time ) dimensions we currently perceive.

right?

reply to post by LucidDreamer85


Well, that is exactly my thoughts! How are they able to make use of these "dimensions"? I guess there is a rational answer. I just hope that someone can explain it to me in layman's terms so I can understand!

You should read up on the Singularity.

Ray Kurzweil, Vernor Vinge - and others.

That a technological-evolutionary point known as "the singularity" exists as an achievable goal for humanity (the exact nature of the point is an arbitrarily high level of technology).

That through a law of accelerating returns, technology is progressing toward the singularity at an exponential rate.

That the functionality of the human brain is quantifiable in terms of technology that we can build in the near future.

That medical advancements could keep a significant number of his generation (Baby Boomers) alive long enough for the exponential growth of technology to intersect and surpass the processing of the human brain.

www-rohan.sdsu.edu...

"Not long ago we 8 Tracks and tapes - Now THIS! What do you guys think?"

I think 8 tracks and cassettes sound better than CDs and DVDs.

I believe it
Where there is money to be made, there is always plenty of research and development put into it.
IMO i think these could be released tomorrow if they wanted it to be.
But first they have to bleed out as much money as they can from existing DVD's, Blue Ray and HD DVD.
I think we could be much more advanced then what we are now, but unfortunately this is in the hands of the companies that make these products. I think progress is slowed down so as much profits as possible can be made by current tech on the market, the problem is money is holding us back..sigh.
Think about it, a 1TB HDD is made using the same technology that we used to make 500mb HDD 10 - 15 years ago.


well that my sook for the day.

all in all This is a good product and will be could when is does hit the market, will defiantly make some space for me

reply to post by Jadette


Very interesting! However, let's look at Moore's law.

en.wikipedia.org...

It seems we are surpassing this? I'm not claiming to be a specialist in this field, all I am doing is asking people to help me understand how this technology has become available to all of us!