Rupert Murdoch: "Internet Will Soon Be Over"

Who in thier right mind would pay for MSM internet sites? Seriusly there are some wierd people out there. I think they are masochists, and are into pain.

I already pay for the internet, nearly $50 US a month, fpr my ISP.

Other than that, the best sites, and blogs ,consisting of free thinkers will always remain free. Once a site goes the way of charging to visit thier site (unless it's of the "adult" content) , they've sold out in my opinion, and have lost al credibility, and isn't worth reading anymore.

Wow, even the Troll Bros. would be out O job.

Hey boys, here's something we can both fight for. But please remove the p@nties first and ......return to the boxer/brief idea. It's more dignified though the State might have left that word out of the curriculum. Just a guess. Grab your tin-foil cap and follow me. _______ lead the way eh? Why follow the 'other' guy, he couldn't care less about you anyhow like a....beerbox. Once your consumed of...your thrown away.

Hear this alot about the Gov. though never stuck around long enough to find out. Just went on a 'tour' of sorts. I didn't like the players, masks, nor the play. That 'play' always ends the same way anyow...kindacomical though sad for the folks trapped in villages with no sovereignty. The 'villages' appear to have little or no voice...muzzled as a little lamb dancing across a frozen lake. Not sure where...to...or what to .... Yes, it appears the folks Will has been censored. Don't mind me, just making some observations. Like an exterminator, I come, clean the place up, make a recomendation to you, and be on my way. Only difference is, I wouldn't lie to you, especially about such important issues facing our country today. Lay it on the table, let the 'people' sort it out.


Trolls were the worst a man has ever seen on the Yahoo finance stock blogs! I bore witness for Years. Got to 'know' a few quite well, though not on freindly terms. I suppose they learned a lesson or two, maybe not, though they'll surely remember the punishment. Every stock had some paid misinformation/disinformation plants to troll/patrol the blogs for each stock. Each stock had it's own blog and each blog had it's own set of trolls that became so obvious it became humorous. I believe one User Name went through several trolls due to all of the harrassment they were getting once the 'folks' found what they were up to. They would often have more than one screen name to boot....though the boot had a Hole...the Truth...as it always finds a way...in 'due' time.....like a virus in the Universe.....only the Universe is as the 'host' to the virus. Nothing like witnessing justice in action.

When was last time You saw justice? Seems the folks just throw their hands up and declare, what can I do? Well, you see, that's the idea my freinds, make the Statutory legal system so complex and opaque that no one can interpret the laws except of course for the attorneys. They 'interpret' the law unto a 'handpicked' judge (when necessary) with a pretermined motion/price. Nice racket if your on the right side....though once again, the emperor and his hackies are always found to wear no clothes in the End. Yes, sometimes humans act no better than animals unto one another. This is to change. It can change sooner, if one acts Now. We have a choice. Good night to all the folks out there in folkland. Feels good to get the truth out. Kind of like a good long stretch atop a high mountain peak...breathe in....deep....breathe out...ahhh. Try it some time.

All the people need to do for starters is to abolish the Federal Reserve, Audit all associated institutions such as the IRS, IMF, the wORld bank, Bank for International Settlements, Central Banks of the world. Then bring back the US Constitution (know it so you KNOW your rights) and the Bill of Rights (also 'good' to know). That's a good start.

'Good' night, day; where-you stay.


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To: Robert Murdoch:

Haw Haw Haw Haw Haw.

Second sentence: Haw Haw Haw Haw Haw.

Watch this space.... I can easily forsee national firewalls and site approval coming into force. I

I am anticipating a 3 way approach

a) use of the fear excuses of "prevention of terrorism" , "removal of hate inducing material", "protecting children" , "banning dangerous material", (note they will not touch porn becuase they want the $$$ £££ etc )

b) Introduction of more advanced services - requiring signing up to a new/better version of the internet designed specifically for multimedia and streaming - will become the major way to access television, radio etc etc in homes... There would be a temporary gateway (with firewall and blocked site listsing) to the existsing net.

c)The internet will evolve to be flooded with itunes type of services - but further advanced. It will be how you will rent your movies etc. and following the itunes model - it will be cheaper than other ways... and again, use of some web services will cost an penny here and a penny there --- the infrastucture is already there for a lot of stuff - e.g. there is nothing to stop free podcasts overnight becomming charged say 1p or 1c - being so cheap it would not stop people using them... Just think of TV, Movies etc being done in the same way. People will want the services - and switch over.... If you could get the equivelant service of Sky satillite TV or cable TV for 10th of the cost by an "improved" network - it would happen....

Originally posted by SonyAD
A lot of very ignorant people spouting off here. Lots of disinformation and misinformation being regurgitated. Nothing new. People so enjoy prattling on about things they know little about.

In any case, Rupert has my permission to go slit his wrists. The only threats to the internet are ISP greed (antitrust and anti-cartel legislation) and DRM (think Motion Picture Association of America, Recording Industry Association of America and all the people and assholes they represent having the impudence to seek remuneration for watching their films, listening to their music and using their software).

These guys are not a threat to the Internet; they are threat to your valet -- that's all, simple as that. Or are you under the impression that Napster took down half of the Internet when the "impudent remunerators" won?

Okay, seriously people, he wasn't saying it's an end to the internet,
that's just a spin the media put on the title,
(Some of you seriously need to read past the title).

He was saying it's the end of MSM being taken seriously on the internet...
which is ironic, because it's the media spinning the stories that's causing it.



He's simply saying news outlets on the Internet are being ignored and replaced by smaller independent news outlets who don't put a bias on the story.

reply to post by DimensionalDetective


When Murdoch says "The current days of the internet will soon be over.” " I think he is referring to new legislation on copyright issues. The problem for old media is that almost everyone is reading their news either through Google interface or just small excerpts published on blogs. That way they can not drive ad revenue.

Originally posted by reugen
reply to post by DimensionalDetective

 

When Murdoch says "The current days of the internet will soon be over.” " I think he is referring to new legislation on copyright issues. The problem for old media is that almost everyone is reading their news either through Google interface or just small excerpts published on blogs. That way they can not drive ad revenue.

Isn't Murdoch the reincarnation of that Sumerian god Marduk? As any cool god, his words must be properly interpreted. He wanted to say that . . .

Originally posted by standerThese guys are not a threat to the Internet; they are threat to your valet -- that's all, simple as that. Or are you under the impression that Napster took down half of the Internet when the "impudent remunerators" won?

They constantly lobby legislative bodies to try and enact legislation against software and media content piracy (I mean free flow of information). Sure, it might be futile but it's still a threat in scope and intent, if nothing else.

And you can be sure that, were it not for free competition and anti consolidation laws, ISPs and big telecom firms would jump on making most everything prohibitively expensive, charging by the hundred megabytes of bandwidth used, etc.

And wasn't internet 2.0 an .edu site by some people from a US university with a better model than IPv6? Or the best way to eventually completely switch to IPv6?

Ask any of the people spouting off at the mouth about TCP/IP, IPv4, IPv6, etc. to get a clue how much the clueless love spreading fear and propagating their own ignorant propaganda.

BTW, keep voting Repugnican for human rights, freedom of information, no illegal wars, abiding by the constitution, transparent government, sugar, spice, and everything nice.

And remember to tune into Fox.

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Marduk (Murdoch wordplay), nah, i think i've read a few threads here on ATS about Marduk but i cant say i remember anything of value, haha.

"Nibiru, to the Babylonians, was the celestial body or region sometimes associated with the god Marduk." /Wikipedia

Old media needs a new business model, thats all there is. We dont want to consume newspaper on paper, listen to music on plastic cds, watch movies on plastic dvds etc (copy sales is dead). Key is peer-to-peer and the digital revolution. The Amazon Kindle 2.0 is a really good example on how digital media can be consumed, just say brickthick textbooks to anyone in college or at University and they know what it means if such material can be distributed in a less costly way. Video and animation is also possible. (edited away netspeak) /Cheers.


[edit on 2009/5/8 by reugen]

Originally posted by SonyAD
And you can be sure that, were it not for free competition and anti consolidation laws, ISPs and big telecom firms would jump on making most everything prohibitively expensive, charging by the hundred megabytes of bandwidth used, etc.

We are not discussing here the end of Netflix; it's about the end of the Internet the way Murdoch's words are interpreted or misinterpreted.

Let me briefly explain how the "anti-consolidation laws" no worky:

In the case of Time Warner Cable, customers will be charged from $29.95 to $54.90 a month, based on data consumption and desired connection speed. Customers will be charged $1 for each gigabyte (GB) over their plan's cap. Time Warner Cable offers four cap levels of 5, 10, 20, and 40 GB. A download of a high-definition movie typically eats up about 8 GB. A recent report from Sanford C. Bernstein suggests that a family on the 40 GB plan that streams 7.25 hours of online video a week (a fraction of the 60 hours Americans spend watching TV in a week) could end up spending $200 per month on broadband usage fees. And that's just for video viewing, before factoring in such Internet activities as music downloads and photo sharing. "To put it mildly," says Bernstein analyst Craig Moffett, "the decision to limit data consumption can be expected to have profound implications for [consumer] behavior."

www.businessweek.com...

consumer behavior -----> www.coverups.com...

reply to post by DimensionalDetective


When will people get it through their THICK SKULLS Internet2 already exists and has since I can remember...

www.internet2.edu


PLEASE come up with a different term for this future thing you assume will occur...

IT IS NOT INTERNET2


JESUS!

This is interesting. I wonder what will come first. If talking about the world order, I'm guesssing 'small' things like that will be the first to come. Internet, then maybe certain medias will have to be 'bailled out' until we're left with the supreme ruler a.k.a fox news. One of the most biased news media in the world. And then we're in their hands. For better or for worst.

Murdoch's comments are largely misunderstood here. He was actually making a very realistic and clever observation on how the CORPORATE MEDIA side of the internet is crumbling out of its lies and one-sided failed approach.

That big crook is actually coming to consciousness in a surprising way about the tested and true idea that the only things that have a future on the net are user-driven technologies such as blogs, myspace, youtube and others (I would add the whole Open Source thing). So he's just suggesting the corporate media to either drastically change its approach or face death.

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[edit on 8/5/09 by Echtelion]

Originally posted by stander

We are not discussing here the end of Netflix; it's about the end of the Internet the way Murdoch's words are interpreted or misinterpreted.

Let me briefly explain how the "anti-consolidation laws" no worky:

www.businessweek.com...

consumer behavior -----> www.coverups.com...

That's nasty.

I pay (tantamount to) 12.5 USD and I supposedly get:
- up to 6.25 MB/s in my ISP's network.
- up to 1.25 MB/s general internet.
- routable but dynamic ip (PPPoE connection). No NAT.
- no traffic limit though you're always limited by bandwidth and time.
- a Huawei, Chinese made, 3G mobile phone with no camera or mp3 playback. Can read microSD cards. Can supposedly be used as a modem though I can't seem to get my PC to "see" it. Installed drivers (bitch to find) and everything.
- a land line and phone.

I forget how much of this is actually "guaranteed." Probably up to 5 or 10% of max bandwidth.

In actuality, I seem to get:
-2.5 MB/s download and 0.25 MB/s upload to a bandwidth test server in London;
-1.0 MB/s download and 0.25 MB/s upload to a bandwidth test server in Paris;
-0.16 MB/s download and 0.045 MB/s upload to a bandwidth test server in Sydney;
-0.35 MB/s download and 0.105 MB/s upload to a bandwidth test server in Seattle;
-1.5 MB/s download and 0.16 MB/s upload to a bandwidth test server in Nuremberg;
-1.75 MB/s download and 0.25 MB/s upload to a bandwidth test server in Frankfurt;

Downloading a 37.2 MB file from gamedaily.newaol.com yielded an average rate of 595kB/s. That's what? 1.5 TB a month?

Last month I yapped for 3 hours and 43 minutes (they tax you for each 15 or 30 seconds, I forget) on the phone, almost entirely with other networks or land lines. Almost 20 USD.

Its nice to see a positive thread on this site for a change, with all doom and gloom normally. I agree with you lot, just because they want to control the web and do this and that does not mean they will be able to do it.

The frog in the beaker is probably what they will try, slowly getting us to accept things, but hopefully sites like this will survive.

I think its just a matter of time before the elitists attempt to totally control and monitor the internet. First they will bring in censorship measures in the cloak of benevolence against several rightfully wrong and perverted portions of the web. Although anyone with even a little internet know how realizes this tactic will fail due to the peer to peer sharing clients. They also realize this and are just using this excuse to bring in wide scale censorship against any sites which the government in question find to be undesirable which will extend to all alternative media and anti-establishment journalism. Until eventually you will only have a handful of several thousand corporate owned sites which will be permitted to be viewed all be it in super high speed. These steps have already begun in the Australia which is usually the testing ground for their plans so you could soon expect the same measures to be taken in the US.

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He just doesn't realize that the Internet is something that can't be controlled, regulated and manipulated the way he has controlled and manipulated the news his media empire produces. Trying to control the internet is like smacking hedgehogs at an amusement park. The technology required to do it is always falling behind the times. He has fallen behind the times.

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Have you heard of this lately :

Blackout Europe: Telecoms Package dangers to open EU internet

www.blackouteurope.eu...

The debates on the Telecoms Package, thanks to a remarkable citizen mobilization, led to an extremely strong recognition of the access to internet as a fundamental right with the re-adoption of amendment 138/46 in second reading by a qualified majority. It is the final blow against three-strike laws such as Nicolas Sarkozy's HADOPI bill, which are explicitely banned. The European Parliament nevertheless adopted a soft compromise on issues of network equity: no strong protection against “net discrimination” was adopted.

I hope God destroyws illuminati and its puppets like murdoch , along with satanic USA and israel (which is rothschild creation and not god chosen nation )