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reply posted on 5-10-2009 @ 11:21 PM by SOXMIS
Hi Selohobed and OSC121,
good to see some more former BAOR squaddies on board. There was a lot of depression in the block, however it may have had something to do with the conditions we had to put up with. Substandard accomadation it was listed as. There was a couple of suicide attempts while I was there. One Int Corp chap tied a bungee cord round his neck and jumped out his room window, found by the guard standing on tiptoes with the cord stretched out above him. I remember weekly trips down to the BMH at Hanover to drop off someone at P wing.
Yes Foxhoundone, your excellent pics brought a tear to my eye, can see my bed space window too! Very interesting they built a little pond out front. Still I doubt the lower levels have been opened up. There was access to some rooms in the lower levels, one was the laundrette and access was at the rear. But the basement levels were concreted over. As I mentioned in my OP you could see where the banisters went into the floor.
There was another building we used as an Operation Bureau (Ops B). It's basement levels were not flooded but I only had a Z clearance so access denied. We used the upper levels for our yearly exercises involving escape and evasion and resistance to interrogation. I have a photo of it I'll try and scan to upload, maybe you guys had a different use for it and have been down there?
I wonder if any of you chaps know of the suicides carried out at other bases in relation to their Nazi occult use?


reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 07:10 PM by grandnic
Originally posted by SOXMIS
... I doubt a tether would have been used. Could cause more problems than their worth. I certainly wouldn't want to be tethered when Im underwater, especially in confined spaces...


There was no real choice at the time. There was the hard hat and standard gear and there was the oxygen rebreather, witch was and is still mosly used for spec ops because it emit no bubbles, the drawback being that you cannot go to depth of more than 30 feets. The Aqualung, or scuba gear, was invented in 1943 by frenchmen Emile Gagant and Jacques Cousteau, it was popular begining in the 50's.

I'm sorry to say that but going inside a submerged building untethered is very dangerous. The visibility in the water would be very low (about two or three feet in front of you). And it would be very easy to loose your path. With scuba gear you would have air for 30-60 minutes depending on how deep you go and how calm you are. With a tether (what we call an umbilical ) you have all the air you need, power for lamps and tools and audio so you can talk to your topside support. Once you get used to all the gear, it is not too bulky. The mark V helmet and standard dress that was in use during WWII by the US is very heavy (easily 100 kg for full gear) but underwater, the buoancy of the air trapped in it makes it pretty light. The umbilical can be somewhat buyoant so if the diver and his tender (the guy holding the tether) are good they won't get hooked in something.

In 2006 a old historic dam near the city of Trois-Rivieres flooded in the middle of the night and my company got called. I had to get down three floors underwater to open the gate to the spillway. It was a very fun night because I had enough air and I could talk to the dam technician. I would not like to go there untethered, unless very well prepared and geared in full cave diving kit.

Cheers!

[edit on 6-10-2009 by grandnic]



reply posted on 7-10-2009 @ 11:27 AM by foxhoundone
reply to post by SOXMIS

Your right there SOXMIS, You could only gain access through the rear of the block, Strangely though i always remember a large steel door at the basement level, And to my fascination of this building which i am glad you started this thread..
The dream "aspiration" i had was about three years ago, The then Block 14 was getting major works completed "The rebuild" and i was trying to get to the lower levels and encounters a legion of SS damned all rotting and lost looking, (maybe to much castle wolfenstein lol). I distinctly remember trying to get down the stairs and their was none( in the rebuild they removed stairs and installed lifts) ? in the dream i remember thinking do not go to the lower levels it was a black mass, Do not remember much after that as i awoke rapidly(self preservation?)

I will down a couple of sauvignon blanc and try to remember anything important (Did i say a couple lol)



reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 09:23 AM by foxhoundone
reply to post by Donny 4 million

77er Heidi infanterie Kaserne
OK more or less direct translation, Heath barracks," Heathen barracks "
Heathen linked to the Germanic Neopaganism adherents
Attitude and focus of adherents may vary,
Polytheistic pragmatic, Through too Occult or mysterious adherents..
and quite possibly linked to the Thole society.
There go Donny, That help you along the way so to speak matey


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 01:19 PM by SOXMIS
Thanks foxhoundone, some great photos, amazing that Celle hadn't changed much up to the end of the Cold War! You are an old sweat, I noticed the puttees. Other than that the pics are much the same as mine, beer and drunken revelry. Although for some strange reason all the quilt covers in my pics are My Little Pony or other children designs, I cant honestly remember that from my time. I will set up my wife's scanner tomorrow and upload as many as I can find, including the Ops B.
Did you mean the Thule society? It would be a great place for Donny to start at. I have been trying to get a hold of some of Peter Levenda's books as I hear he covers a lot of the occult ties and symbolism in them, however being in China doesnt help! The barracks was a HQ for the SS so Im sure that whatever these guys were up to a lot of their research would have been carried out in block 14. It was also the largest single brick building in Europe up until the early nineties so they had plenty of space to carry out different projects. It makes sense that they would attempt to cover their tracks, and it is possible that the American military had some form of scuba at the end of the war, it had been in development for the military as early as 1902 and re-breathers were used as early as 1938.
The big question for me, given that the rumours were true, what messed these divers up? I have a couple of ideas I'd like to share, its a little late here right now and I've been on the sauce. Tomorrow we'll indulge!


reply posted on 8-10-2009 @ 01:48 PM by foxhoundone
reply to post by SOXMIS

Thankyou its late here to and i am knackerd scanning german sites for information,Mainly 77 Heide division and Ahnenerbe division.. tomorrow matey Cheers.. Old sweat my arse lol


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