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Originally posted by dtice
do we? That is the biggest question of all humanity. NO ONE KNOWS. We can have faith. But in the end, either it is or it isn't and their is no truth either way. So the way I see it, Why be scared at all? Our lives don't even dare to make a dent in history as we know it. So if they end in the ultimate darkness then what is the loss really? I know that is bleak but wwe have no proof to prove otherwise so.......in the grand scheme of things, HOW FUTILE IS THE WORRY
Originally posted by LiquidLight
There is a fourth possibility, Quantum Immortality, but I won't go into it here.
well i'm sure most of us recognize the obvious circumstantial differences between these . . .
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by JPhish
Are there different 'levels' of death?
Meaning...since there are no real words, in English, to convey these ideas...
What is the difference between suicide, murder, accidental death and 'natural causes', if any?
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Wisen Heimer
Maybe it was the morphine drip, or the dialaysis, as he neared death...but, my Father was an entirely different person as he laid in his hospital bed, before he died.
I could tell when he was cognizant...and he told me, reluctantly, about what he saw. He found comfort, in what he saw.
He told me that he could see - something, in the room. He described them as looking as fully formed as me, or the nurses....except, they came and went. Or, even when I was with him in the ICU, he would say that he could see them, in the room with us.
What a great story. Thanks for sharing that! (and sorry for your loss of course)
And thank you everyone for the great responses!
I think we are given free will for a reason. And I believe that reason is a kharmic one. I believe we are here to "get it right". And if that is the case then there would have to be something to come. I just don't see how with human's awareness and language and creativity so different from the animals, we could only be here as just another dying species to fertilize the earth. Or as the great George Carlin put it "Humanity's only reason for existence was because the earth needed plastic", or something like that lol.
Anyway, not fearing death allows me to constantly remind myself that this bag of bones I currently occupy, or EXPERIENCE as the case may be, is not who I am. And it's not that I fear I will not experience everything I want to either. You can live a fulfilled life as long as you think you have. When it comes down to it. It's all about you and YOUR PERCEPTION of things. That's really all that matters. I just want to "get it right" this time around. Peace
My Father was NEVER spiritual....not a day in his life!!!
edit = here....the visions, according to my Father, were of past relatives...people who he felt comforted by....
He was never afraid of dying....never. He was intubated, and he really wanted a taste of some grape juice....while the Nurse was out of the room (this is another instance, obviously...before ICU) I helped him drink, carefully, a few sips of grape juice....the NURSE came in, and chewed me out!!! Well....I chewed right back!!! He had a nice taste, and he didn't choke...I knew enough to understand the risk, after being intubated.
His comfort trumped Hospital Policy, in my mind.
Sorry....I've lost track.....Oh, being 'scared' of death!
My Dad's death taught me that I am not afraid. 'Nuf said.....
[edit on 4/29/0909 by weedwhacker]