reply to post by Astyanax
I already did, by stating that the human being, including mind, memory and consciousness is like a waveform hologram functioning within a larger
sphere which has an acausal, transluminally interdependant, non-localized, holographic nature underlying the very heart of it all, and which has, at
it's foundation, this timeless, spaceless, eternally unfolding and enfolded present moment, and thus, if we are here now, operating within this
larger sphere of being, which itself is a vast information processing system or consciously generated matrix, not at all unlike our own mind - then
rationally and logically, how can we escape life and everything, since what is, is, and since there is nothing, that is not..?
The implications of modern science ie: non-local holographic universe, demonstrate that we are part of it, and once a part of, always a part of, since
a part cannot be separated and discarded, unless maybe it has nothing of value to add to the continuance of the whole. Personally, I believe it is
also like a knife, which is capable of cutting away whatever is not causative or fruitful or generative of life meeting life, in other words a final
judgement with the good news being that the price has been paid, since for everything, and every free gift, including eternal life itself, there is a
price to be paid and for it to be worthy or worthwhile, it's a costly one at that. And so for those who "grok" what I am suggesting, and who posess
the courage to recieve the free gift, unearned yet of incaculable value, the "kingdom of heaven" as first/last cause of continuous manifestation in
one form or another, starts now, and we are already in it! In other words that it is only an eternally
unfolding and enfolded present moment if
it is also a forgiven
present moment, and to forgive is to function NOT in relation to the past (the only thing that dies), but in terms of the
infinite realm of all possibility (quantum potential) coming at us, so to speak, from the as yet unborn future, where infinite possibility (what some
may call 'God' as infinite being) resides or lives in perpetuity. Thus, to enter into this realm, is like being baptised into a type of
transoformative cosmic clamshell so to speak, of death, and resurrection, the end result becoming like a prescious pearl fit to adorn the very gate of
the eternal 'city' of God. In other words, that the human being, including me and you, are a work in progress, where 'every sinner has a future,
and every saint, a past.'
There is always a final choice, that too is woven right into the very heart of nature, and if in that heart there is a cause of love, then it must
also be presented as a free gift of love, without coersion, and therein resides the paradox, since it must also be influencial and capable of selling
itself as a point of attraction, and re-creation.
So you can consider what I'm attempting to communicate here as a re-interpretation and re-presentation of something both very old and very new. But
as a gift, it cannot be forced, or it loses its supreme value. So in many ways I am equally opposed to much in traditional theology, which, from the
perspective of the gift giver would be an outrage, if it's great value and lovingkindness were tampered with by coercive force, which in this case I
guess would be the fear of death...
"So therefore, do not be afraid little ones, nor let your hearts be troubled, for it pleased the father (first father of creation) to share his
(eternal) kingdom (of light, love and manifestation) with all his children!"
And another piece of good news, like an insurance policy, is this MUST include by extension, as an all-inclusive propostion, even and ALSO those who
do NOT believe, because he said, from the vantage point of the cross, relative to those who put him there (emodiment of the spirit of the universe, in
man) "forgive them father, for they know not what they do." The only caveat being, that such a gift is of little value to the one who recieves it,
unless it is first recieved and recieved with love in kind, and appreciation. We must unwrap this supreme gift of incaculable value, and inside? Your
truest self, your everlasting self, which is simply who you REALLY are, as you were created - a child of a loving God who leaves no orphans.
The price of sin is death (separation from the center and source of all being and becoming) and the price of eternal life, and of life meeting life
eternal, transcendant of death itself, is the cost of death (sin) now paid in full. This can be understood, rationally, and no matter how improbable
is may appear at first glance, in the realm of infinite possibility, it has been rendered actualized, that is if Jesus was a real historical figure,
and an honest person, who's final act was meaningful, since if it means anything at all, then by extension, it's true meaning, and it's supreme
value therefore, cannot be ignored or underestimated.
It's both a mystery, and a revelation - another paradox! In this case, a very good one filled and overflowing, with love.
For those who will I pray that you might re-examine this conception once again, but with an open mind, free of contempt, prior to investigation.
P.S. Welcome to the end of time without end even now.
[edit on 2-5-2009 by OmegaPoint]