Mysterious U.S. Swine Flu Probe Widens as Mexico Finds Swine Flu *updated*

reply to post by Bhadhidar


Yes there is a church there...and you are so right! Also the article states:

The student went home ill from school Monday and another student was out ill Wednesday. By Friday, seven students were out sick. The first student who became ill was tested by county health officials Friday, and the test was positive for several strains of influenza. Those results were sent to the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta. A determination is expected early this week.

www.sacbee.com...

So with that said, we know that the whole Sacramento Valley is infected!
Do you remember the weather we have had here over the last week?
Perfect flu breeding weather. Warm one day, misty the next. Warm, then misty...no dry hot days to kill it off!


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[edit on 27-4-2009 by burntheships]

twitter.com...

# Mexico health secretary says suspected swine flu cases rise to 1,614 with 103 believed dead, AP reports. 30 suspected cases in Jalisco.2 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters

# CNN: Admin officials say U.S. Sec. Napolitano is cancelling a trip to Prague to oversee preparations and handling of swine flu situation.4 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters

# BULLETIN -- 103 BELIEVED DEAD IN MEXICO BY SWINE FLU, NUMBER OF CASES CLIMBS8 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters

reply to post by Hx3_1963


Seems like it is spreading from the epicenter of Mexico City No?
And just in one day...the reporting seems to change.

What happened to the report that was saying all those infected had a clean bill of health?

Im sure it will all go away, like everything else does. There is a reason the Virus isnt killing Americans, because of all the drugs we are hyped up on in are daily lives through the food and water. The shots we got when we were born. and their is a vaccine for this situation.

Swine flu at a glance
Key developments Sunday 04/26/2009 on swine flu outbreaks:

— Deaths: 103 suspected, all in Mexico.
— Sickened: 1,614 in Mexico, suspected or confirmed; 20 confirmed in U.S.; 13 suspected in New Zealand; 6 confirmed in Canada; 7 suspected in Spain; 1 suspected in France; 1 suspected in Israel.
— Locations in Mexico: 17 states, including Mexico City, Mexico State, Veracruz, Oaxaca, Baja California and San Luis Potosi. Some, including Oaxaca, Mexico City and Baja California, have tourist areas, but authorities have not said where in these states the outbreaks occurred.
— Locations in U.S.: California, Kansas, New York, Ohio and Texas.
— Safety measures in Mexico: In Mexico City, surgical masks being given away on the subway system, public events canceled, schools and public venues closed and church services postponed. President Felipe Calderon has assumed new powers to isolate infected people.
— Safety measures worldwide: Airports screening travelers from Mexico for flu symptoms. China, Russia and Taiwan plan to put anyone with symptoms under quarantine. Hong Kong and South Korea warn against travel to Mexico City and three provinces. Italy, Poland and Venezuela advised citizens to postpone travel to affected areas of Mexico and the United States.
— Safety measures in U.S: Roughly 12 million doses of Tamiflu being moved from federal stockpile for delivery to states. Travelers at border being asked about travel to flu-stricken areas. St. Francis Preparatory School in New York, where eight cases are confirmed, will be closed Monday and Tuesday.
Source: The Associated Press

www.msnbc.msn.com...

In another forum it was discussed that in the NY situation, there were 200 kids who traveled to Mexico, first reports were that 78 were sick. Of those 78 a sample group of 9 were tested and 8 came back positive.

8/9 is 88.9% and when you apply that percentage to the full number you get roughly 178 sick kids, yet most folks think there were only 8 because of the way it has been reported by the MSM.

The media is doing a crappy job at this & the concept of preventing panic is going to cause more problems in the end.

BTW, RSOE created an entirely separate site for the Swine Flu outbreak
www.idemc.org...

And Dr. Niman has a google map of the H1N1 Swine Flu tracking

reply to post by redhatty


Yeah, if you work the infection rate - it is pretty high. The Mexican government has applied an element of spin to the situation. However, doctors and nurses suggest otherwise in Mexico City - CNN admitted the virus is spreading across Mexico quite rapidly.

Columbia cases do not seem relatively positive - the patients seem to be in a bad condition.

Morning everyone (it's morning here in the UK anyway...)

"A Chinese virologist who helped fight SARS and bird flu warned on Monday of a possible swine flu pandemic saying that the most populous countries in Asia like China and India would be ill-prepared to handle the outbreak.

"We are counting down to a pandemic," Guan Yi was quoted as saying. Guan, a professor at the University of Hong Kong, helped trace the outbreak of SARS in 2003 to the civet cat. "I think the spread of this virus in humans cannot possibly be contained within a short time...there are already cases in almost every region," he added.

Guan, who has been studying and tracking the spread of the H5N1 bird flu virus ever since it was discovered in people in Hong Kong in 1997, said there would be many problems if swine flu reached China and India, where populations are so dense and health infrastructure is still insufficient."

source

There's a lot of scarey talk going around now, it's really hard not to get drawn into it all . It's like the world is waiting with it's mouth wide open, not sure if they will be given cause to scream or sigh with relief. A very , very tense time. Even my partner is getting freaked out and urging me to get prepping. I've been writing up a list of everything we might need for 6 months....am going to get a certain percentage of this in now and then if it looks like the S is about to hit the fan I'm going on a 24-7 buying spree til everything on the list is bought. If it got really bad we might need to hole up for a few months . Would you want to venture out to Walmart or Tesco if the virus took root in your city...I doubt it. It's surreal even thinking like this but even though "it" might not happen I feel it's really important now to be thinking of supplies just in case.

U.S., world governments race to contain swine flu outbreak
www.knoxnews.com...
Updated 05:05 a.m., April 27, 2009

WASHINGTON (AP) — Governments are racing to find and contain pockets of swine flu around the globe, seeking to stem both the threat of a pandemic and public panic.

"We're preparing in an environment where we really don't know ultimately what the size or seriousness of this outbreak is going to be," U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Sunday.

In Mexico, the outbreak's epicenter, soldiers handed out 6 million face masks to help stop the spread of the novel virus that is suspected in up to 103 deaths. Most other countries are reporting only mild cases so far, with most of the sick already recovering. Cases have been confirmed in Canada — six — and the U.S. — 20 — and other countries from Spain to New Zealand were investigating whether other people with flulike symptoms really have this new swine flu or something else.

More at Link...

# EU's Vassiliou says advises against non-essential travel to areas directly affected by swine flu - Reuters4 minutes ago from web

# Band News: A man is hospitalized in Sao Paulo, Brazil, with symptoms of swine flu after a trip to Mexico and tests are underway.6 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters

# At least 3 people hospitalized in Copenhague with symptoms of swine flu, DR News is reporting.16 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters

# Spain outbreak: There are other 17 possible cases in Cataluña, Baleares, Castilla y León, Bilbao, Valencia, Teruel and Navarra.28 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters

# AFP: Woman being tested for swine flu in Hong Kong31 minutes ago from web

[edit on 4/27/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Originally posted by Hx3_1963
# Spain outbreak: There are other 17 possible cases in Cataluña, Baleares, Castilla y León, Bilbao, Valencia, Teruel and Navarra.28 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters

It seems to be spreading quite rapidly in Spain. The Health Minister admitted the cases were doubling.

reply to post by infinite
Yep...spain does a lot of travel to central/south america...

Still don't understand this apathy toward closing airports and such...

So what do people think? Do you think the Mexican and U.S governments are deliberately playing this swine flu down so as not to cause panic? The comments from the Mexican doctors on the BBC news site seem to say deaths are higher than reported. When i first heard about this flu outbreak on Saturday, the reported deaths were about 61, the next day it was 80 now its at least 100. I mean what would cause you to seriously start panicking? I am in the UK...if people started dropping in their hundreds then i would panic.

I swear this site makes me paranoid! I am fairly new here, but i've been reading posts for about 6 years. Its only now i've discovered the joy of posting

reply to post by Kram09


Our Media deliberately playing it down? Why would they do that?

/sacasm off

Look at it this way, 200 kids in New York went to Cancun (NOT Mexico City - which we hear about in the news) and came back. 78 were reported showing clear signs of being sick.

Of those 78 only 9 were the sample group. Of that 9, 8 were positive for swine flu.

What about the OTHER 69 Kids?

from the sample group we have an 88+% of positive to exposed

And you WONDER if this is being downplayed???

BTW,

Monday, April 27, 2009 6:21:13 AM
World Health Organization (WHO) moves forward emergency meeting on Swine Flu to today- Meeting was scheduled for Tuesday

Be prepared for the alert level to be raised to 4

# President Obama tested for swine flu after trip to Mexico and given a clean bill of health.3 minutes ago from web

# President Obama's host while visiting Mexico City's anthropology museum dies from "Flu-like symptoms".11 minutes ago from web



# Spain: First Confirmed Swine Influenza Case Recorded in 23 Year-Old male from Almansa who returned to Spain from Mexico on 22 April.4 minutes ago from web

# The health ministers of the European Union will be holding an emergency meeting on Thursday, the ANP news agency reports.2 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters

EU health chief: Don't travel to Mexico or U.S.
Warning comes as Spain reports first confirmed case of swine flu in Europe
www.msnbc.msn.com...

LUXEMBOURG - The European Union's health commissioner urged Europeans on Monday to postpone nonessential travel to the United States or Mexico due to swine flu.

EU Health Commissioner Andorra Vassiliou met with the EU foreign ministers on the subject as Spain reported the first confirmed case of swine flu in Europe. That was also the first swine flu case outside North America.

On arriving in Luxembourg, Vassiliou advised Europeans to reassess their travel plans.

More at Link...

Swine Flu symptoms reported throughout New Zealand
www.3news.co.nz...

Swine Flu symptoms are now being reported throughout New Zealand from Auckland to Otago, and the Government says it is treating the scare as if it's the real thing.

3 News has been told that a number of Air New Zealand crew now have symptoms, and health officials have tracked down two thirds of the passengers on Saturday's NZ1 flight, which carried the students from Auckland's Rangitoto College who first showed symptoms.

While then ten confirmed Rangitoto cases are just Influenza A, whether they, or any other case, is more serious won't be known until swine flu tests in Melbourne have been completed.

More at Link...

[edit on 4/27/2009 by Hx3_1963]

"The IFRC shares the WHO's analysis that there is a potential for swine flu to develop into a global pandemic"

Bekele Geleta, Secretary General of the IFRC, calls the situation "immediate" and of "serious concern."

# Says the national Red Cross and Red Crescent societies, supported by IFRC health specialists are working with gov'ts on national level.2 minutes ago from web

reply to post by Kram09


hi Kram09
i am in the uk as well. if you have read the thread from the start, you will have access to a wealth of information from all corners of the globe kindly supplied by the members. with regards to worry, this thing is out of the box so it is too late to worry about that. i suggest that a regimented hygiene protocol be implemented and taught to all family members as soon as possible. would be a good idea if we all carry wipes and in high footfall areas avoid touching handles, toilets etc without first having a wipe in ones hand. i suspect it is already in the uk. the next 30-45 days are critical not only for the uk but for the whole world. for the scientists to create a target specific anti-viral would take anywhere up to 6 months flat out so we are all out in the open with this. all we can do is mitigate and reduce the opportunity for this virus to take hold.
for all readers i would suggest that they download as many fact sheets on precautions as they can because worst case scenario will be news, media and internet blackout whether intentional or not. do not panic it will make you ill. the better option would be to plan for the worst without causing concern to others.
stay safe and well

It's getting deep...

Australian Government moves into next phase of protection against swine flu
www.news.com.au...

ALL flights into Australia from North or South America will have to report any passengers with flu-like symptoms before the aircraft is allowed to land.

Responding to the swine flu outbreak, Federal Health Minister Nicola Roxon announced today that the Government was moving immediately to the "next phase of protection" against the disease.

"We have now made the decision on the advice of the chief medical officer that we should introduce the next phase of protections, that is introducing at our borders arrangements for all
flights that are coming in from the Americas and landing here in Australia," Ms Roxon said.

reply to post by cdi


Fact is people aren't too concerned though. I understand where people are coming from, saying the media is hyping it up and that we had the whole sars, bird flu thing before. But the only reason people will become concerned is when it reaches their country and people start dying in large amounts. But by then it will be too late.

reply to post by Hx3_1963


The Spanish gentlemen in question seems to be in a bad condition, his symptoms were similar to those in Mexico - so are the other reported cases in Spain.