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Ron Paul Is With Them...He's FAKE

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posted on Apr, 22 2009 @ 11:30 PM
If this is the best evidence you have that Ron Paul is with the Illuminati/nwo. then I'm convinced that he is not. If he is a deceiver, tell us who is really anti nwo?

posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 03:34 AM
reply to post by Amelie

We the people are anti NWO. You don't need anyone to depend on but yourself.

posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 07:41 AM
I have seen many people use these gestures and not have any idea what the Illuminati is. I have done these and I didnt even know what it was until I came on here. I dont think just because someone does this it means they are the Illuminati. That's just my opinion.

posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 09:05 AM
I think you need to start a thread bobbylove123, one about Pulling Ron Paul through a portal by his rippling reptile abbs and that it is the most important thread about Ron Paul's reptilian abbs being pulled through Portals.
What do you think?

I think that would be a winner.

posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 10:43 AM
reply to post by bobbylove321

Don't TRUST anyone in politics because they are all at some point corrupted, or BECOME corrupted. If the "Elite" has supposedly planned the NWO for MANY years (Way before WW2 and the Federal Reserve) then I'm pretty sure they are smart enough to "persuade" ALL sides to join them at some level. People shouldn't put their trust in anyone. They don't need them. What we need is a bunch of intelligent people in office who are trust able and "watched" by independent sides from all aspects and not some random old men who interact with other corrupted officials on a daily basis.

Do you ever stop and actually READ what you post?

You contradict yourself from sentence to sentence.

First, you say that all politicians are corrupt OR become corrupt after they get in office.
Then you say we need a "bunch of intelligent people in office who are trust able". Well, according to your logic, as soon as they get in office, they become corrupt.

Then you say they need to be "watched" by "independent sides from all aspects"! HUH?

Independent? Who decides whether they are independent? YOU?

Your posts make no sense whatsoever, and that is the kindest remark that I can make.

posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 10:58 AM
reply to post by mblahnikluver

There's no way a 60-year-old politician with insider connections and an MD degree would be that naive.

When people make hand signs in public, they are sending a message. There are lots of talented and popular people around, but none of them become famous, because they are not "in the know." Read up on it.

posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 07:09 PM
reply to post by ProfEmeritus

There's no contradictions in my posts whatsoever. I'm saying Ron Paul is a fraud and is one of them.

You can take that how you want to take that.

Put 100% trust in him if you want. I, as well as many others, will depend on our own selves if things ever got worst.

posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 08:14 PM
reply to post by bobbylove321

Have you noticed most of the time people are caught doing these "satanic" hand gestures.... THEY ARE FROM TEXAS?

Ron Paul is not a Freemason. I would be honored if he was, being a huge supporter of his ideas. In none of those pictures does he preform any "masonic hand gesture, hand shake, sign, etc"

posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 02:56 PM
reply to post by Rockpuck

Why would a politician make a hand-sign of his school? Who mentions his school in his speeches?

Typical denial.

posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 03:43 PM
reply to post by vcwxvwligen

Because the crowd enjoys it I suppose? Something sinister about a college in Texas now? Typical ignorance.

posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 07:01 PM
reply to post by Rockpuck

The crowd would have loved naked mud wrestling as well

Are you suggesting that there isn't?

posted on May, 2 2009 @ 12:51 PM
Oh, crap, I think I've performed that handshake a couple times myself, I think I might be a brainwashed illuminati drone.

And the "I love you" in sign language!?

Sinister indeed!

posted on May, 30 2009 @ 09:24 PM

Originally posted by bobbylove321
reply to post by ProfEmeritus

There's no contradictions in my posts whatsoever. I'm saying Ron Paul is a fraud and is one of them.

You can take that how you want to take that.

I really don't see how a few hand gestures is enough to support your argument here...If he's a puppet or whatever you view him as, I'm sure you find him to be rather intelligent if he is able convince so many people that he is a legitimate politician. Given that he is rather intelligent, if he were part of the Illuminati, do you really think he would expose himself like that, especially when he is greeting all those people?

Hopefully the article below will further elucidate my position.

posted on May, 30 2009 @ 10:19 PM
reply to post by tothetenthpower

I agree with you 100% Keeper. This BobbyLove character is ignorant as ignorant gets.

He's with the illuminati because you think he's making some kind of weird handshake? Is there an Illuminati handbook out there that shows the handshakes? What color bandannas do they wear? Which way do they turn their hats?

I think someone just wanted to troll the forum and see how many posts this stupid topic would get.

Hey Mr Love, why don't you check and see how many signatures Dr. Pal has gotten on his Audit the Fed Bill? He's very anti big government. The definition of a Conservative Republican.

I think the only reason he hasn't been taken seriously is he's far too timid when interviewed, and he's against the NWO. They aren't going to let him in.

posted on May, 30 2009 @ 11:07 PM
reply to post by Rockpuck

Have you noticed most of the time people are caught doing these "satanic" hand gestures.... THEY ARE FROM TEXAS?

I scrolled thru the text and noticed no one has mentioned that this is a 'hook em horns' sign used by Texans to support the Longhorns of the University of Texas. Ron Paul, of course, is a Texan.

I would want to know who he was making the sign to before assigning something sinister to it.

The handshake was just that...a handshake, which is sometimes done in akward grips.

Edit to say...bobbylove...Perhaps it is that everyone at the University of Texas and all alumni are Illuminati.

[edit on 30-5-2009 by liveandlearn]

posted on May, 30 2009 @ 11:41 PM

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by spacedoubt

Why would Ron Paul be legit?

Because he wants term limits?
Because he wants to audit the Federal Reserve?
Because he wants to limit the Federal government?
Because he was against the Iraq war?
Because he always advocates liberty and freedom?
Because he's helped birth 4000 children on his off days?
Because he believes in the State's rights?
Because he believes in the constitution?
Because he believes in the individual?

Everything this guy has done throughout his entire career has always been to help his constituents...or to defend liberty and keep government as small as possible.

If this man is somehow dirty...then there is no hope...he's the only honest guy I see out there.

That being said..I don't think he's dirty...all he tries to do is help people...but he does it with as little government and taxation as possible....and rails against war.

Cripes...what is NOT to like?

i think these pics are just coincidences.

i like what the guy said above about the table being long and arms were extended, and the peace and love signs....

its just propaganda and i think the OP is being a bit paranoid and is probably an agent to deter anyone from trusting anyone.

all those reasons u state are the reason why i love th guy too..

go ron paul!

posted on May, 31 2009 @ 01:35 AM
reply to post by 1 4M 7H3 1

Ron Paul's wife and kids are in appendant bodies, and it is proven that his father was a Freemason. However, he definitely did join the fraternity Lamda Chi Alpha which uses Masonic symbols in its emblem.

The Illuminati play one side against the other. Type "Hegellian dialectic" into a search engine

And, I forgot to mention that he consistently votes "no" on any affirmative-action related legislation. He is a racist and an self-admitted ultra-conservative.

And, he was also a big fan of pope John Paul II.

[edit on 31-5-2009 by vcwxvwligen]

posted on Jun, 1 2009 @ 01:50 PM
you know what in my honest opinion i believe ron paul is working for the elites not the Illuminati thats an ignorant statement with little to no proof at all and you making such accusations without research not helping yours or our cause, just like what alex jones he loves to throw out how the people doing this are racist Illuminati industrial military complex scum and this leads me to believe that you and alex are disinfo agent by you saying these things you are pushing people in other directions away from them thinking that ron paul does work for the elite by saying hes an illuminati puppet

and i dont see why yall people cant see that he isnt who he says he is the elite have enough power to fix elections start world wars kill our freedoms but there not smart enough to have a back up plan get out of here and thats what ron paul is theres no way he effects anything majorly he is never going to be president unless they want him too and if they do they you know hes with them hes one man who says the things that make you happy so you blindly follow him hes one man the senate is still currept and idiotic and the world is still ran by bankers and elites and he wont change it

wake up people

sorry for the long rant

posted on Jun, 1 2009 @ 08:51 PM
reply to post by dreaken1993

Sorry to burst your bubble here, but that claim is absurd and lacking the slightest sense of coherent logic. Speaking of ignorance...had you read my post from a couple of days ago, you would fully comprehend that he is not part of this elitist manipulative faction. In fact, it's just the opposite. Daniel Estulin is a long-time follower of the Bilderberg conferences with inside sources of the group. He disclosed the issue of the problematic (according to the Bilderbergs) Ron Paul a couple years ago:

By Pat Shannan

Bilderberg tracker Daniel Estulin says he has received information from sources inside the U.S. intelligence community suggesting that people from the highest levels of government are discussing “eliminating” Rep. Ron Paul because its controlled political system is threatened by Paul’s exploding popularity.

Estulin, whose information has proven accurate in the past, went public with the bombshell story Dec. 14 on Alex Jones’s national radio show.

“I am getting information from my sources that there are people involved from a higher level of the American establishment who are seriously considering assassination,”Estulin said.

Estulin’s past predictions about global events were accurate because of the solid information provided to him from within the Bilderberg organization. Over 18 months ago Estulin correctly made the call that the Iran invasion had been delayed and was probably off the table, which appears now to be the case following the release of the National Intelligence Estimate showing that Iran had terminated its nuclear research in 2003.

Estulin, an award-winning investigative journalist, said that he was given the information from a source that has been reliable for over a decade in providing accurate projections of future events based on what the elite were discussing in their own circles and that assassination was a serious option should the Ron Paul Revolution continue to grow.

Retired FBI Special-Agent-in-Charge Ted Gunderson, 78, has been a whistleblower since his retirement nearly 30 years ago. He said “Yes, absolutely, they won’t hesitate to do it.”

Rather than shooting Paul, a more sophisticated silent attack such as poisoning or the provocation of a heart attack via exotic electronic technology would be more likely, he said.

“That way the real killers are not required to put a ‘patsy’ in place, such as in the Kennedy assassination,” he continued. “And don’t count out a plane crash or a car wreck, which has been another method of choice in recent years.”

Paul himself has stated on previous occasions that he is aware of the dangers of being such a bold spokesman for freedom and understands what threat he represents to those who would stoop to anything to preserve their grip on America.

Paul acknowledged months before the Estulin report that such a threat is “real,” agreeing with a number of historical examples where leaders were killed or attacked for successfully standing up to the system.

“That’s right. They’ll do it,” Paul said, making reference to previous men of history such as Andrew Jackson, Huey Long, Bobby Kennedy and GeorgeWallace. The attack on Jackson, on the Capitol steps in 1835, was the only one of the four not to be a successful “removal” because his attacker’s weapon misfired. Both Long and Kennedy died and Wallace spent the rest of his life in a wheelchair...

Full article:

A few personal thoughts:

Ron Paul is 71.
He received approximately 1200 write in votes in the election.
Why the HELL would the elite have a vested interest in a man like this???

[edit on 1-6-2009 by 1 4M 7H3 1]

posted on Jun, 1 2009 @ 09:07 PM
well you can believe what you want when he does have an actual attempt on his life then ill support him but until then im sticking to my beliefs say what you want

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