Ron Paul Is With Them...He's FAKE

If this is the best evidence you have that Ron Paul is with the Illuminati/nwo. then I'm convinced that he is not. If he is a deceiver, tell us who is really anti nwo?

reply to post by Amelie

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We the people are anti NWO. You don't need anyone to depend on but yourself.

I have seen many people use these gestures and not have any idea what the Illuminati is. I have done these and I didnt even know what it was until I came on here. I dont think just because someone does this it means they are the Illuminati. That's just my opinion.

I think you need to start a thread bobbylove123, one about Pulling Ron Paul through a portal by his rippling reptile abbs and that it is the most important thread about Ron Paul's reptilian abbs being pulled through Portals.
What do you think?

I think that would be a winner.

reply to post by bobbylove321

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Do you ever stop and actually READ what you post?

You contradict yourself from sentence to sentence.

First, you say that all politicians are corrupt OR become corrupt after they get in office.
Then you say we need a "bunch of intelligent people in office who are trust able". Well, according to your logic, as soon as they get in office, they become corrupt.

Then you say they need to be "watched" by "independent sides from all aspects"! HUH?

Independent? Who decides whether they are independent? YOU?

Your posts make no sense whatsoever, and that is the kindest remark that I can make.

reply to post by mblahnikluver

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There's no way a 60-year-old politician with insider connections and an MD degree would be that naive.

When people make hand signs in public, they are sending a message. There are lots of talented and popular people around, but none of them become famous, because they are not "in the know." Read up on it.

reply to post by ProfEmeritus

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There's no contradictions in my posts whatsoever. I'm saying Ron Paul is a fraud and is one of them.

You can take that how you want to take that.

Put 100% trust in him if you want. I, as well as many others, will depend on our own selves if things ever got worst.

reply to post by bobbylove321

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Have you noticed most of the time people are caught doing these "satanic" hand gestures.... THEY ARE FROM TEXAS?



Ron Paul is not a Freemason. I would be honored if he was, being a huge supporter of his ideas. In none of those pictures does he preform any "masonic hand gesture, hand shake, sign, etc"

reply to post by Rockpuck

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Why would a politician make a hand-sign of his school? Who mentions his school in his speeches?

Typical denial.

reply to post by vcwxvwligen

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Because the crowd enjoys it I suppose? Something sinister about a college in Texas now? Typical ignorance.

reply to post by Rockpuck

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The crowd would have loved naked mud wrestling as well

Are you suggesting that there isn't?

Oh, crap, I think I've performed that handshake a couple times myself, I think I might be a brainwashed illuminati drone.

And the "I love you" in sign language!?

Sinister indeed!

I really don't see how a few hand gestures is enough to support your argument here...If he's a puppet or whatever you view him as, I'm sure you find him to be rather intelligent if he is able convince so many people that he is a legitimate politician. Given that he is rather intelligent, if he were part of the Illuminati, do you really think he would expose himself like that, especially when he is greeting all those people?

Hopefully the article below will further elucidate my position.
www.americanfreepress.net...

reply to post by tothetenthpower

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I agree with you 100% Keeper. This BobbyLove character is ignorant as ignorant gets.

He's with the illuminati because you think he's making some kind of weird handshake? Is there an Illuminati handbook out there that shows the handshakes? What color bandannas do they wear? Which way do they turn their hats?

I think someone just wanted to troll the forum and see how many posts this stupid topic would get.

Hey Mr Love, why don't you check and see how many signatures Dr. Pal has gotten on his Audit the Fed Bill? He's very anti big government. The definition of a Conservative Republican.

I think the only reason he hasn't been taken seriously is he's far too timid when interviewed, and he's against the NWO. They aren't going to let him in.

reply to post by Rockpuck

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I scrolled thru the text and noticed no one has mentioned that this is a 'hook em horns' sign used by Texans to support the Longhorns of the University of Texas. Ron Paul, of course, is a Texan.

I would want to know who he was making the sign to before assigning something sinister to it.

The handshake was just that...a handshake, which is sometimes done in akward grips.

Edit to say...bobbylove...Perhaps it is that everyone at the University of Texas and all alumni are Illuminati.

[edit on 30-5-2009 by liveandlearn]

i think these pics are just coincidences.

i like what the guy said above about the table being long and arms were extended, and the peace and love signs....

its just propaganda and i think the OP is being a bit paranoid and is probably an agent to deter anyone from trusting anyone.

all those reasons u state are the reason why i love th guy too..

go ron paul!

reply to post by 1 4M 7H3 1

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Ron Paul's wife and kids are in appendant bodies, and it is proven that his father was a Freemason. However, he definitely did join the fraternity Lamda Chi Alpha secure.wikimedia.org... which uses Masonic symbols in its emblem.

The Illuminati play one side against the other. Type "Hegellian dialectic" into a search engine

And, I forgot to mention that he consistently votes "no" on any affirmative-action related legislation. He is a racist and an self-admitted ultra-conservative.

And, he was also a big fan of pope John Paul II.


[edit on 31-5-2009 by vcwxvwligen]

you know what in my honest opinion i believe ron paul is working for the elites not the Illuminati thats an ignorant statement with little to no proof at all and you making such accusations without research not helping yours or our cause, just like what alex jones he loves to throw out how the people doing this are racist Illuminati industrial military complex scum and this leads me to believe that you and alex are disinfo agent by you saying these things you are pushing people in other directions away from them thinking that ron paul does work for the elite by saying hes an illuminati puppet

and i dont see why yall people cant see that he isnt who he says he is the elite have enough power to fix elections start world wars kill our freedoms but there not smart enough to have a back up plan get out of here and thats what ron paul is theres no way he effects anything majorly he is never going to be president unless they want him too and if they do they you know hes with them hes one man who says the things that make you happy so you blindly follow him hes one man the senate is still currept and idiotic and the world is still ran by bankers and elites and he wont change it

wake up people




sorry for the long rant

reply to post by dreaken1993

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Sorry to burst your bubble here, but that claim is absurd and lacking the slightest sense of coherent logic. Speaking of ignorance...had you read my post from a couple of days ago, you would fully comprehend that he is not part of this elitist manipulative faction. In fact, it's just the opposite. Daniel Estulin is a long-time follower of the Bilderberg conferences with inside sources of the group. He disclosed the issue of the problematic (according to the Bilderbergs) Ron Paul a couple years ago:



Full article: www.americanfreepress.net...

A few personal thoughts:

Ron Paul is 71.
He received approximately 1200 write in votes in the election.
Why the HELL would the elite have a vested interest in a man like this???

[edit on 1-6-2009 by 1 4M 7H3 1]

well you can believe what you want when he does have an actual attempt on his life then ill support him but until then im sticking to my beliefs say what you want