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Glenn Beck threatened over exposing FEMA camps.

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posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 05:55 AM
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And yet another long drawn out thread about FEMA camps and no proof other than "I read it on the net" or "Just google it up". Anybody got a picture?? Just 1 thats all were asking for.




posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 07:35 AM
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Here's footage shot by Alex Jones' film crew. Starts out with a clip from the news station concerning the Palestinian family who was grabbed and sent to separate camps, a map shown on the station of where they went. Did the TV station make this up? Then into the film, about 16 minutes, you see Alex's film crew shooting a camp outside Austin, Texas (Taylor, Texas) -- there's no doubt this is authentic. They even talk to some of the guards. You can see the kids there, so this is definitely not a place for "vicious criminals." It's for families.

www.livevideo.com...



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 02:12 PM
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Guess we'll see once the Tea Parties hit the road April 15th and the ones to come will be into the Millions.
I donot rule out information just because of the source , I do know however with many military family members, there are training camps for civilians being set up and new ones being developed.
Things will start to get nasty , there is no question about that with a divided nation, something will come of it.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 03:09 PM
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Well salt if you are right, which is highly unlikely, and there are all these camps and you believe in the NWO, you must also think they are monitoring websites like this and keeping tabs on people like you. You would be one of the first people who first throw into these camps. If people really believed all the crap they posted on this site they wouldnt even be using the internet. After all the government controls the internet and tracks everything ever posted. These people would be living in the woods or mountains in a cabin, growing their own food, completely off the grid. I know if I believed it I sure as hell wouldnt be exposing myself to the possibility of being one of the first to occupy these death camps. I would get off my ass, sell everything I owned and moved. Hell, I would live in a tent in the woods if I believed everything you did.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by Salt of the Earth

Here's footage shot by Alex Jones' film crew. Starts out with a clip from the news station concerning the Palestinian family who was grabbed and sent to separate camps, a map shown on the station of where they went. Did the TV station make this up? Then into the film, about 16 minutes, you see Alex's film crew shooting a camp outside Austin, Texas (Taylor, Texas) -- there's no doubt this is authentic. They even talk to some of the guards. You can see the kids there, so this is definitely not a place for "vicious criminals." It's for families.

www.livevideo.com...

Really, so that place in taylor is a fema camp. WRONG. It is the T. Don. Hutto Residention Center.


The T. Don Hutto Residential Center, an immigrant detention facility in Taylor...The 512-bed center holds families of non-criminal immigrants as they await rulings on whether they will be allowed to remain in the country.

T. Don Hutto Residential Center

A private company, Corrections Corporation of America, owns and operates the facility with funds from the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Office....

“We’re supporting the federal government’s stand on immigration, and this affords the opportunity for the families to be able to stay together,” ....

T. Don Hutto is a former medium-security prison that was converted into a family detention center in 2006, making it the second of its kind in operation. Per ICE standards, families are housed together, but are separated by gender.

Morrison estimated that residents remain in the facility for an average of 40 to 45 days, some staying as little as two or three days and some as long as six months. The average length of stay in ICE centers nationwide was just more than 30 days in 2008, according to ICE.
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So tell me salt how does this have anything to do with Fema Camps? It has no connection with fema what so ever. Maybe instead of taking Alex Jones word as gospel you should spend two minutes and do your own research. Alex Jones is a joke. When I can do two minutes of research and shoot debunk his crap makes you think of what other bs he is spewing out. Cant believe people actually listen to this guy.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by tide88

Really, so that place in taylor is a fema camp. WRONG. It is the T. Don. Hutto Residention Center.

A private company, Corrections Corporation of America, owns and operates the facility with funds from the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Office....
So tell me salt how does this have anything to do with Fema Camps? It has no connection with fema what so ever.


The link below explains that Haliburton's contract to build detention facilities is for illegal immigrants and "potential terrorists." The article link below also tells how FEMAs job is to help round up these same people for detention centers, called "Endgame."

Yes, we hear these camps are all for the illegals. Do you believe it? I don't. If they didn't want the illegals here the borders would be closed,and we wouldn't be handing out driver's licenses and givng them mortgages and all the rest.

These camps are going to be used for us, the American people, whether they now have federal prisoners and illegals or immigrants to be deported is beside the point.

During Katrina FEMA had no problem finding places to detain people, nor in shipping them off in planes to camps, where many of them still are today.

And this camp is not some private camp. It's a federal camp. Alex's film crew interviewed some ICE people working there. The federal government hires private people to run the prisons, all the prisons. They are still federal prisons, controlled by the federal government. ICE and FEMA work together, their roles interchangeable, and both are part of the dreaded Department of Homeland Security whose job is to crush the American people who our government considers the real terrorists. We are the ones being surveilled, spied on, searched, scanned, and harassed, not the Mexicans who have free reign to come and go and do pretty much anything they want to do here.

Agencies of Department of Homeland Security (all directly tied into roundup and detention of "potential terrorists." (that's you and me and anybody who questions the government and its criminal activities)

* Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)
* Customs and Border Protection (CBP)
* Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)
* Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
* Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
* U.S. Coast Guard
* U.S. Secret Service
* Office of Inspector General


news.pacificnews.org...

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posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 05:12 PM
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All speculation on your and Alex Jones Part. They never put katrina victims in fema prisons, unless they were looting or breaking the law. And unless you can give me an example where a US citizen was detained in one of these two "camps" your argument is baseless. Of course all of your conspiracy theories are based on speculation and assumptions that have no merit. Take the section in hr 645 that states: (4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.

This could mean thousands of things. Hell it could mean that they can comandeer all the bottled water in the county, of course people like you automatically think it means they are going to round up american citizens and put them in Fema Death Camps.

And those places are privately owned but funded by the government. It is owned by CCA, a privatly owned corporation. CCA

Now show me where fema comes into play here?

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posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by tide88
reply to post by Salt of the Earth
 


Well salt if you are right, which is highly unlikely, and there are all these camps and you believe in the NWO, you must also think they are monitoring websites like this and keeping tabs on people like you. You would be one of the first people who first throw into these camps. If people really believed all the crap they posted on this site they wouldnt even be using the internet. After all the government controls the internet and tracks everything ever posted. These people would be living in the woods or mountains in a cabin, growing their own food, completely off the grid. I know if I believed it I sure as hell wouldnt be exposing myself to the possibility of being one of the first to occupy these death camps. I would get off my ass, sell everything I owned and moved. Hell, I would live in a tent in the woods if I believed everything you did.


When people like Alex Jones do the things he does out in the open, I don't mind posting on a forum under a pseudonym. Yes, they can still get me, find me. But that's going to happen anyway.

We are ALL going to die, or most of us, if we don't speak up. If we all cower away and button our lips, we can then be SURE the criminals will win, and they will kill us all.

Look what they did to the people on 9/11. Those people just went to work one day and found themselves trapped in the Twin Towers which were then exploded into a pile of dust, their bones blown halfway across town.

Look what they did in Oklahoma.

These people have no mercy and no conscience. If anything they enjoy counting our bones, and the one with the most bones to his credit is the one with the most status.

If you look at each little piece and listen to the debunkers chipping away at the little pieces, you can say, okay, maybe they have a point. But when you take the whole entire picture over the past 50 or 60 years, study your history, you can't help but see where this is heading.

These people worship the devil, literally. They have a plan to depopulate the planet, and they are coming for us now. Don't kid yourself.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by tide88
Take the section in hr 645 that states: (4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.


Also to detain "potential terrorists." We know what that means -- GWB said it: "If you are not for us, you are with the terrorists." Well, if you're with the terrorists, (the nonexistent boogeymen terrorists the government says are out to get us) that means you are a terrorist yourself. If you say the government did it, that they are the criminals, then of course the government is terrified, and to them we are a terrorist because we see through them, that they are murderers and criminals, and that if enough of us wake up they will be charged with high crimes and treason and punished.



Originally posted by tide88
And those places are privately owned but funded by the government. It is owned by CCA, a privatly owned corporation. CCA

Now show me where fema comes into play here?


Did you ever hear of what a vendor is? A vendor is somebody who performs a service for the government. It's called "outsourcing." The private companies can run these operations more profitably and take the headache off the shoulders of the government. But they will do the job. Most of the prisons are privately run, and are used for money laundering operations by the drug running CIA.

What, do you think the government is just giving out grants to private companies because it feels generous? Do you think these companies are in business for themselves? If they did not have contracts and agreements with the government they would not be getting any prisoners to harbor. The government is paying them to do a job it wants them to do, which is detain people.

This is about the only industry left in America -- running prisons, working as police and spies and surveillance. It's the police state way. And ICE, FEMA, DOT, they all work together on the roundup when martial law is declared, or operation Endgame as they call it.

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posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 05:54 PM
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Again more speculation. And the reason for outsourcing is because sometimes it is cheaper and easier to outsource the work instead of the government setting up a whole new agency to run them, but obviously this discussion is going nowhere. You have your mind made up that the government is evil and is trying to depopulate the world.

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posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 11:12 PM
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Do you remember the King trial and the L.A. riots. The Billion dollar damage? Understand the gov knows well in court cases that are seen as an injustice. The camps were created at first for different reasons however what happened under Clinton was the S & L scandal from mid 80s to about 1994. In 1992 on NBC they noted that of coming trails that start 20 years later (2012) They knew then the system would belly up do to these legal acts and badly damaged (a depression) from the first ruling. It would have been nuts not to build them from their point of view. As they almost needed them just last year.

Back in early 1990s the banking system almost went into a depression it was close as major banks were so low of cash.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 11:36 PM
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Having read too many army documents in my time... the language doesnt fit...looks fake to me



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 12:35 AM
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EXACTLY something a FED would say...lol



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 01:13 AM
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I beg to disagree, my friend.
I also have read an official document or two in my time.
Enough, in fact, to have made the observation that even in the Army, different people have different writing styles.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 03:44 PM
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This is a classic case of deceptive editing.

What is it's purpose?

To discredit Glenn Beck because the their are people who are very afraid of him.

I have seen some of the shows in the video and they were edited to make it appear that he said things that he was not saying. Don't believe me? Well, then answer why were the clips so short?



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 05:40 PM
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Exactly, it is just cleaver editing. Also when he says "help me" he constantly says things like that in a whisper. He is just being sarcastic. Unfortunatly, CT's dont know the meaning of saracasm.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 11:41 PM
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"Why are the clips so short"? It's very simple...It's because there is a "10 MINUTE TIME LIMIT" on video accounts such as mine.
"Clever Editing"? Did Glenn Beck not say these things on March 03,2009???


"We ARE a country that is headed towards SOCIALISM,TOTALITARIANISM,beyond your WILDEST IMAGINATION"! - Glenn Beck - on the morning of March 03,2009 - on "Fox and Friends"...

"I wanted to debunk these FEMA CAMPS (PRISONS) .Well we've now - for SEVERAL DAYS - done research on them.I CAN'T DEBUNK THEM"! - Glenn Beck in the morning...


"It is OUR GOVERNMENT! If you trust our government,it's fine...If you have ANY kind of fear that we might be headed towards a TOTALITARIAN STATE...LOOK OUT! BUCKLE UP! There's SOMETHING going on in our country...that is...ah...AIN'T GOOD"! - Glenn Beck in the morning

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NOTE: A few SECONDS before he said that,remember that he himself said this...

"We ARE a country that is headed towards SOCIALISM,TOTALITARIANISM,beyond your WILDEST IMAGINATION"! - Glenn Beck
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"These are ACTUAL PRISONS that were built under the Bush Administration" - Glenn Beck (Morning)

"And these FEMA CAMPS are ALL OVER THE U.S."? - Gretchen Carlson

"YES" - Glenn Beck

"And they're ALL EMPTY"? - Gretchen Carlson

"YEAH...YEAH"! - Glenn Beck

"I tell you...Just...SOMETHING doesn't sit right with me" -Glenn Beck (Still the morning of March 03,2009 on "Fox and Friends")...

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After being THREATENED by the NWO! ( Illuminati)...
(With either his job,or the lives of his wife and kids)...
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"I don't believe in the FEMA PRISONS"! ("They're MAKING me say this...HELP"!) - Glenn Beck in the EVENING of March 03,2009...Yes...That VERY SAME DAY!!! (On his "Fox News" show)...

EXCUSE ME???

Oh Glenn Beck is still going to do a show about The FEMA CAMPS...

But...

After being THREATENED BY THE NWO!

It is NOW going to be a so-called "DEBUNKING" SHOW!

(In other words...He's going to forget about all of the EVIDENCE he and his crew uncovered during their investigation,and LIE TO YOU about the FEMA PRISONS! -Just like he LIED to you later on that SAME DAY!!!)

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UPDATE! Glenn Beck has done this so-called "debunking show",and he said this...

"I don't believe that there are FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS...("Chuckles")...I think that sounds kinda NUTS"! - Glenn Beck - April 06,2009

Note: Now go back and read what he said on the morning of March 03,2009 on "Fox and Friends"...Then watch my video again,and LISTEN to the "Fear" and "Urgency" in his voice while discussing "Where our country is headed",and these "ACTUAL PRISONS"!

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There are ONLY two possible explanations for his complete "About-face" on this story "Beck Fans"...

Either Glenn Beck is...

A. An NWO "Shill" (He works FOR them)

or

B. He was THREATENED BY THE NWO!

(To "Change his tune" on the FEMA PRISONS story,or ELSE! And FORCED to say "They're MAKING me say this...HELP"! In a "joking" way,so that it would throw people off about it!)

Because God knows that there is a TON of evidence that the FEMA PRISONS exist...You saw some of it in this video,and you heard Glenn Beck with your own ears ADMIT that...

"These are ACTUAL PRISONS built under the Bush administration" - Glenn Beck on the morning of March 03,2009 on "Fox and Friends"...

My point is this...

Wether your a "Beck Fan" or not is absolutely IRRELEVENT...

If the answer is "A"...and he's an NWO "Shill"...Then we should EXPOSE him!

If the answer is "B"...and he is being THREATENED BY THE NWO! Then we should HELP him! (By spreading this information EVERYWHERE!)

Wouldn't you agree???

I report...YOU DECIDE!!!


"Who-WHO will watch The Watchmen"?

OwlMan



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posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 11:53 PM
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To ANYONE who doesn't believe that he said those things.Simply go to YouTube,and type in "Glenn Beck FEMA CAMPS",and watch the entire "unedited" shows from the day of March 03,2009...

He absolutely DID say those things,and they were NOT "taken out of context" in any way,shape,or form...

He said on the morning of March 03,2009 that...

"These are ACTUAL PRISONS built under the Bush administration" - Glenn Beck

(NOT...These are "Allegedly" to be,or "Rumored to be"...but...ACTUAL PRISONS!)

He even asked the crew of "Fox and Friends" that morning...

"Why aren't we USING those"??? - Glenn Beck


Then suddenly,and mysteriously...He does a complete "180 Turn"...


And on the evening of March 03,2009 on "The Glenn Beck Program" (That VERY SAME DAY!) he said this...

"I don't believe in the FEMA PRISONS" - Glenn Beck



Your move...



"Who-WHO will watch The Watchmen"?

OwlMan


www.youtube.com...

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posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 07:10 AM
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Okay, so he was threatened but they just let Alex Jones spew his garbage over the airwaves. Come on. If the government was as evil as people think Alex would be six feet under by now. At least if he was telling the truth, that is. But since his broadcasts are nonsense they let him say whatever he wants. BTW saying you cant debunk something doesnt mean you believe it. I cant debunk WTC7 wasnt demolished for sure. I still dont believe it was demoed. I am sure he said "I cant debunk them" then got a thousand emails saying something along the lines of "I told you they existed... About time you woke up... etc." That is when he probably came out and said, "just for the record, I dont believe they exist." It is also possible he could debunk them in two days. It takes longer to send a camera crew to these places, do interviews, research, tec.. Of course there is no proof they exists. The most popular one shown on youtube has been debunked. Alex Jones two he talkes about, the one in taylor, texas and in penn. have also been proven to be immigration family centers for those held by ICE waiting for administrative legal proceedings.
T. DON HUTTO And lets not get started with hr 645 and 1388. There is no where in either of those bills that gives the government the right to detain american citizens and put them in these so called "fema camps"



posted on Apr, 10 2009 @ 03:31 PM
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just came across this, seems relevant to the thread since its about how much glenn beck sold out for.





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