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reply posted on 31-3-2009 @ 11:58 AM by larphillips
Originally posted by ChrisF231
reply to
post by 44soulslayer


Agreed and that's something many people forget. Numbers mean jack if they can't go anywhere due to logistical or transport issues or if they don't even have enough weapons.

The Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force is the 3rd largest navy in the world after the US Navy and the British Royal Navy. Japan has top of the line equipment and well trained personnel operating them. Japan could send North Korea back into the caveman times without even breaking a sweat.


And that is why I said in my previous post that North Korea has absolutely zero intention of actually going to war. Japan's threats won't stop NK from actually going forward with the launch. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if NK wants Japan to shoot the rocket down. Look at it this way... with reports of Iranian scientists on the ground at the launch site and a history of past weapons sales, if my theory of this launch being a big product demonstation is correct, then a Japanese shoot-down definitely wouldn't hurt the situation in the least... and very well could help, as the Koreans would save face if the rocket failed to stay on course or failed to deliver the range that was promised.

Here is the scenario as it will play out:

* Missile launched
* Missle splashes down with mixed reports (US & Japan say 'equipment failure' and NK saying 'shoot down')
* NK ups rhetoric and moves some troops around and towards the border
* SK goes on full alert
* China calls for diplomatic talks
* The US agrees
* Concessions are reached and NK is given some oil and other gifts to 'dismantle their ICBM program'
* Crisis averted... everyone wins (Obama looks solid in international politics, China looks like a great peacemaker, Japan proves their manhood, NK gets their goodies)
* Quietly, Iran, Venizula, Pakistan, etc. buy up some groovy new NK technology and hire a few rocket scientists

Rinse and repeat the next time NK has some new goods for the marketplace.


reply posted on 31-3-2009 @ 12:00 PM by moonwilson
reply to post by ChrisF231



Agreed. I just did a little research on the North Korean Navy vs. the Japanese Defense Force. If the North Koreans want to have a go at the Japanese, it would be a slaughter. The Japanese have a more than 4:1 tonnage advantage vs. N. Korea. The best offensive ships the North Koreans have are short range missile patrol boats. The Japanese have multiple state-of-the-art Aegis missile destroyers. Those things are no joke- the North Koreans can't touch them.

Assume the entire Japanese naval defense force were on holiday, and decided to give the North Koreans a pass. The entire capacity of the North Korean amphibious fleet:

3000 troops
32 light tanks
150 amphibious hovercraft

To invade a country of 127 million? Good luck with that. They'd never make it past the beach.


reply posted on 31-3-2009 @ 12:29 PM by Vitchilo
reply to post by moonwilson



Yeah because NK will attack Japan using it's boats... come on. NK would launch their missiles, hundreds of them at Japan. They could place a nuke on one of them... but we're not even sure that NK have nukes and warheads is even less likely.


reply posted on 31-3-2009 @ 01:04 PM by moonwilson
reply to post by Vitchilo



Um, I don't think North Korea has many missiles that can actually hit Japan. They have a few Scuds I guess, but they hardly have hundreds of long range missiles. It's over 400km from North Korea to Japan. And the missiles they do have can't carry the primitive type of nuclear weapon they are likely to posess.

That's why North Korea threatening war against anyone except South Korea is a joke. If they want to fight the Japanese, they have to hop in their little boats and cruise across the Sea of Japan first. Which would be a mistake.



reply posted on 31-3-2009 @ 01:16 PM by vkey08
reply to post by greeneyedleo



Now that's just scary.... That looks like one of our mobile nuke launchers rather than a communications satellite launcher..


reply posted on 31-3-2009 @ 02:14 PM by Solomons
reply to post by tothetenthpower



Japans *allies* much like S.Korea dont have all the time in the world to mobilize...and by the time they do...what? the country they planned on defending is a smoldering glass crater,good luck with that..seems pretty pointless and america and other nations know it.Like i have said before though,if this missile(assuming it is) gets shot down N.Korea will huff and puff but wont blow anything down in the end.Nobody even knows if lil kim is alive..could be his generals calling the shots for all we know.


reply posted on 31-3-2009 @ 02:17 PM by Vitchilo
reply to post by UmbraSumus



Details. I said that NK should be nuked if they started a war. If you know the whole situation there, you would know that if NK starts a war, they'll shoot everything they've got at Seoul, killing millions.

So what would you do against that? Sit by? Protest? While millions are dying? Or start bombing them? Bombing them with conventionnal weapons? Do you know how much time it would take to wipe out the thousands of artillery pieces in the mountains using conventionnal weapons while people are dying in Seoul?

The only way to stop the raining shells on Seoul immediately would be nukes. Better to kill the scum in NK than to let Seoul civilians be killed, sorry.

I do not advocate nuking NK if they don't do a thing.

Hopefully NOTHING will happen at all. Death of civilians is disgusting and we've seen it too much already in the 20th century and in the last 8 years.

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