reply to post by Illusions Are Grander
I have never read Plato's "The Republic."
I am well aware that the founders of this Nation and its Constitution were well aware of Plato and his writing in "The Republic" as well as the
history of many other ancient nations from Rome to Constantinople..to the Middle East and other nations in the Continent of Europe.
It is also obvious to me that the founders here were aware of the writings of other of the great Philosophers.
What they wrote to replace the failed Articles of Confederation was and still is an exceptional document because of what was in it and also because of
What the founders nor Plato or other philosophers seem to be able to teach us is how to become a fruit inspector...to detect what is not desired to be
taught to us by our leaders. To be able to spot and see that which is not desired to be seen..as is in the historic workings of many in different
governments throughout recorded history.
That which is hidden from us..occult...esoteric...which is what governs how a government will actually operate..not how they speechify to the
They could not protect us from this. In short ..they could not protect us from Phariseeism....ie....Counterfeiters. Those who would secretly overlay
and insert counterfeit doctrines and practices over the top of the law of the land and have this passed off as if it was the law of the land and for
the public when it was no such thing.
Give you this example IllusionsAreGrander,.. using the Glass-Steagall Act mentioned by TypeSH2001 on page 12 of this thread. I had to think and
rethink the history as it has been awhile since I read it. Not many would know that the attempts to put in a federal reserve act...much earlier than
1913 were lead by a fellow in high finance named Nelson Aldrich. His attempts failed and the mantle taken up later and finally passed through the
congress rather sneakily ..just like much legislation taking place today. This second attempt was lead by Carter Glass of Lynchburg, Virginia. Many
politicians recognized the legislation being promoted by Glass as the Aldrich bill..hence the Reserve act was passed privily when so few of our
politicians were available just before a recess. Just enough to have a quorum and get it passed while most of those objecting to it were absent. Sound
familiar? Very occult in the manner in which it is and was done. Just like today.
Plato nor our founders could protect us from such shady dealings. Nor from so much knowledge or understanding of the history so often missing from our
The Glass-Steagall Act is nothing more than a confidence boosting trick under the guise of legislation designed to instill confidence in the system.
The FDIC never was able to completely insure or guarantee all of a persons losses. This act has been replaced with another act of dubious nature. And
act which has also been inserted under the radar of most Americans.
Carter Glass was nothing more than a shill for the Aldrich Bill previously attempted and failed to pass prior to 1913. His Glass-Steagall Act was a
confidence trick to boost this system. Unless one digs deeply ..they will not find this history in most books...it is hidden ..concealed..occult.
Philosophys cannot protect us from these kinds of dealings...unless they specifically educate us in the identifying of these patterns. Pattern
While there is no doubt that there were people of great thought and moral character in Ancient Greece...it did not help the nation in the end. Not any
of the philosophers nor their philosophies.
None of this will help this nation in the end as it steams steadfast unto its demise and our government replaced with a new form not any better than
the one it replaced.
Oh..I don't recall if I got back to you on GFW Hegel's book "The Genealogy of Morals." It was to my surprise not a thick book. However..I found
it totally unsuitable to my mindset. I found it dead and inert. Lacking a spirit conducive to my frame of mind. I constantly found myself revolting to
something he was getting at in a subconscious level..one deeper than what was written on the pages. While there were occasional decent and
intelligent concepts on the pages, most of it I found to be endless rambling on and on. I finally gave up on it when I realized the author was dead
and inert in his soul. It took me awhile to locate this dead fingerprint and with the help of someone else on ATS I realized immediately when they
spoke of this concept ..that they were correct.
I have noticed that some people think Hegel is the cats meow in philosophy/thought and others think not. Not a lot of middle ground among readers on
Hegel. I found this also to be interesting and telling. Apparently and obviously I am not that enamoured of him. Nor is my German Mother when I
mentioned that I was reading his book.
I recall reading a book on the great philosophers and a fellow named Baruch or Benedict de Spinoza To my surprise this is a fellow who was a Jew and
gave up his rich Jewish history for Human philosophy. Interesting trade off. History seems to be repleate with peoples who have done these kinds of
Thanks for your post,