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Limbaugh provides an "alternative" view point.

That is, if you think that the time honored tradition of "Courtesan to Royalty" is anything alternative or new.

A good place for Blue Collar workers to pine for the plight of the wealthy and powerful, and boo and hiss at the $1.25 that someone on Welfare "got away with."

Rush, Hannity, Neal Boortz, Michael Savage (Wiener), Bill O'Reilly, Jim Cramer (to just name the latest status quo apologist in the news) they all make tons of money. The add revenues can't give Hannity and Rush over $100 Million a year, plus endorsements. So, they are selling something much more important. They give everyone someone to blame, and provide the circus to distract them from FOLLOWING THE MONEY.

Wall Street went from 6% of the Economy to 40%. Their net gain, is at the cost of a net trade deficit -- we borrow more money than Wall Street creates. In that time, we outsourced jobs and that was good for profits. The average American has lost buying power every year except a few points during the 90's, since Reagan was in office.

Some people may be shocked and surprised by the economic down turn. But it reminds me of the curious stupidity that led the Bush administration to merely padlock all the weapons depots that Saddam left behind, rather than removing them or just blowing them up. Then they divided the fledgling government on sectarian lines and took sides. Since then, we started fighting the people who used to be our allies, and paying off the people that weren't. So, you are smart enough to line your pockets and contractors, get in power, but you aren't smart enough to know that leaving things bombed and weapons available isn't a great way to start a civil war.

Before this crash, Negroponte used Homeland Security provisions to allow Bear Sterns, Goldman Sachs and 3 other financial banks to leverage their investments 40 to 1 -- bypassing SEC rules. Can anyone EVER think that this is a good idea? You only need a hiccup of a downturn, and banks that over leveraged have to sell the store to keep up -- they are prime targets of market manipulators. Especially, when the SEC turns a blind eye to billions in Naked Short-selling that crushed Bear Sterns and allowed them to be gobbled up for pennies on the dollar.

But the worse problem is the Derivatives market. Over a Quadrillion in unresolved money, based upon the credibility of companies that have raised their pirate flags. The people in the know, worry about this greatly. It was the bets placed on mortgages that was the problem -- not really the mortgages themselves.

Into this gap of knowledge, launches people like Rush Limbaugh. Quickly stepping in to blame poor people forcing banks to loan them NINJA loans (the fair housing laws force banks to loan to people of the same credit rating regardless of ethnicity -- NOT to give loans to credit risks, by the way). Gone from the discussion, was why the Private Mortgage Insurance (PMI) didn't cover 100% of the losses. If people have interest only loans, or NINJA loans, or have no equity -- they have PMI. Well, AIG set up a division in England to get around US regulations, and they gambled trillions of PMI insurance money on high risk investments. Eventually, the gambling didn't pay off.

But, there are a lot of voices, not following the money, and blaming people with little power or wealth.

That's why Rush makes over $100 Million a year. Because it is chump change and gets the rabble fighting amongst itself, while they get their pockets picked. One day it's "oh no, the Illegal Mexicans" the next day "Oh no, it's the Islamo-Facists." Really, it's always been the same kiss up and kick down apologists since the Egyptians built the Pyramids. They used to be called Courtesans in the Middle Ages. Or Chicken-Eating-Preachers during Slavery. Many names, many theories, -- but always the same function. Distract the people and make them accept the power structure.

And that's the thing, you are either teaching folks that they will get to heaven by piling huge rocks on top of huge rocks, so that they are too busy to challenge the power structure, or you are a "Radical Liberal" a heathen, an atheist. We see the Pharaohs religion as a silly myth today. Well, everyone used to understand that wages created demand until the late 1970's. So, apparently, history proves that ENOUGH people will believe any stupid idea, if enough well dressed people repeat the lie.

It appears to me, from reading all the posts in this thread, that liberal hate is alive and well. Followed by liberal fear.

I personally don't like Limbaugh...but...calling him an a**hole for his beliefs? And all the other hateful comments? You call him a hate-monger for his right to free speech...for speaking his views. Then some of you return fire by hating him for the rights he has in this country.

Typical liberal actions..."hate is bad" if it isn't what WE believe. "Free speech is great" unless WE disagree. All crap if you ask me.

Limbaugh happens to have a huge audience BECAUSE of your misguided view that only your answers, only your "God" (or lack thereof), only your President and only your morals (or lack thereof) are right.

I happen to be one Independent that is more sick of this kind of crap than the crap Limbaugh spews.

Thanks

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

]Originally posted by jfj123
I do find his simple minded fecal diatribe amusing, it is also a little un-nerving because there are enough people out there that believe he should have a podium to speak from.

While I totally agree with you on the simple-minded point, I just wanted to make a comment about this. It doesn't matter how many people believe he should have a podium to speak from or how ridiculous his spewings are. He has the Constitutionally-protected RIGHT to say what he does. If NO ONE believed he should have a podium, he'd still have the RIGHT, if not the following.

Maybe I should clarify my position.
Although I do completely agree he has the CONSTIITUTIONAL right to say what he does, he doesn't have the right to say it on the radio. He was given that privilege by the radio stations which did so because they can sell advertising because of him. So the only reason he is spewing crap on the radio is because there are enough people who will listen to him thus making the radio stations profitable. What a shame. Sometimes people don't deserve their podium.

Originally posted by jfj123
So the only reason he is spewing crap on the radio is because there are enough people who will listen to him thus making the radio stations profitable. What a shame. Sometimes people don't deserve their podium.

Oh, I see what you mean. Sorry about the misunderstanding. Yeah, if he deserves a radio show, then it makes NO SENSE that people like Imus were taken off the air. Some of what Rush has said is far more offensive than Imus's musings, in my opinion.

People listen to Limbaugh because he can be their alter-ego. He says things that people think but don't say out of fear of reprisal, inadequate rhetorical skills, or no one to listen. On national radio, their hero says what they would say. The true believers call in and say "ditto" and receive the approval of the king. He speaks for them, they get to be heard and his approval means that they have been heard on national radio. Dissenters are permitted to speak but only if their arguments are weak. They are then flayed. Dissenters with strong arguments are dismissed and can't be heard. The king will not be outwitted when he controls the mute button.
This is the dream of the true believers who may not otherwise have much attention paid to their views. I talk, you listen. Dissenters are banished from my world.
It would be interesting to see the demographics of Rush's listeners with respect to age, gender, social status, education, income, and location. I suspect that some interesting patterns woud emerge.
Rush, of course, is all about ratings and his rants haven't changed much. He plays his audience well because he understands his audience, which is the mark of a good entertainer.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by jfj123
So the only reason he is spewing crap on the radio is because there are enough people who will listen to him thus making the radio stations profitable. What a shame. Sometimes people don't deserve their podium.

Oh, I see what you mean. Sorry about the misunderstanding. Yeah, if he deserves a radio show, then it makes NO SENSE that people like Imus were taken off the air. Some of what Rush has said is far more offensive than Imus's musings, in my opinion.

Yep.
A great example is r.l.'s "Barack the Magic Negro" song. A parody of "Puff the magic dragon".
Racist much rush?????

Another great one was when he was on the air, accusing the democrats of slowing down his broadcasts so it sounded like he was drunk or high There's some irony for you

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Why Do People Listen to Rush Limbaugh?

Because they can.

Until the government steps in and silences him, which means your favorite web site or new station may be next,

You know the ole, " they came after me, they will come after you, tra la tra la."

If you want your rights upheld, you better fight for every-ones rights to be upheld.

Whether you like what they have to say or not,

The way I look at it, people who want to silence someone have an ulterior motive, perhaps the message they want to silence doesn't fit their agenda or troubles their conscious.

ok you blindsided dimwits with the mental capacity of an ageing stoat, for the past millions of threads you have debated lush rimbaughs drug addiction(whilst putting the odd comment in now and again)
chopra put it beautifully when he mentioned when limbaugh is angry which is all the time then bieng angry makes him right! or think he`s right which most of his audience does due to his anger level. he talks down to his audience and makes them sound stupid and he doesnt accept any opinion from his listeners apart from" im right and your opinions dont matter because my opinion is yours"
infact you could change his name to hannity or o`rielly and it would mean the same thing.
and yes they all sound like rotwielers on the tv and radio and they are..atleast the left doesnt shout like the right does..they just shout shout shout..
and it gets on my nerves

Rush is a clever propagandist, and a great many people are fed up with the anti-white racism and anti-male sexism constantly coming from the left. I can't stand Rush, but I don't like what I hear from the left either.