Why do Americans not care anymore, page 2
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reply posted on 21-2-2009 @ 12:23 PM by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by silo13





Even if there (may be) hundreds of thousands waiting to *join* but no one willing to take the responsibility to head up a revolt, and as responsibility has been left to the government for so long it’s been virtually bred out of Americans - what’s an American to do but sit back and wait?


Actually, it has ALWAYS been that way, even back to the American Revolution.
revolution.h-net.msu.edu...
We now know that in every part of the United States, but especially in the South after 1778 (when the British transferred its military operations to that region), Americans fought Americans. Sometimes, American family members fought each other, as fathers sided with the British and sons with the Americans (or visa versa). Historians now believe that forty percent of Americans were patriots; twenty percent were Loyalists, who supported the British; and forty percent were neutral, preferring to be left alone during the hostilities.


The actual number of soldiers actibely FIGHTING in the revolution was a minute percentage of the 4 million people in America at the time:
en.wikipedia.org...
About 250,000 men served as regulars or as militiamen for the Revolutionary cause in the eight years of the war, but there were never more than 90,000 total men under arms at one time. Armies were small by European standards of the era; the greatest number of men that Washington personally commanded in the field at any one time was fewer than 17,000.



reply posted on 21-2-2009 @ 12:29 PM by RFBurns
Originally posted by ConservativeJack
Originally posted by RFBurns

Imagine that....being surrounded by your own trash.


you have quite the imagination

telling me to change my attitude?

that my money and business will be worthless?

lol, I own a health care company, Obama's my best friend!

Government pays my checks!

So, get out of my face with the world is ending, ats, dime a dozen, fear mongering,





Ill give you this..your quite humerous. Oh dear....did I rattle your cage there? Now how about that. A mere comment on a post rattles your cage that much.

I would not want to be around you when your 1 percent write off world comes crashing down, and your best friend is the reason for it.

Yes you should change your attitude. Soon people wont be able to afford your health care products.

I own 4 businesses, 2 of which are online businesses, all 4 of them have felt the effects of this depressed economy, I am quite sure yours has also felt the effects. We are fortunate to be able to write off losses. But you know what, those losses are recovered from government money, ie tax dollars. And tho I do make a very good living with my businesses, I dont close my eyes and my persona to those being affected by the economy.

Its called being human, having a heart, having compassion for your fellow man/woman. I was once living in my vehicle, eating those instant lunch soups and wondering if the next day I could find temporary labor work to get another 50 or so bucks for the day. Worked my butt off for years to get where I am at. I dont expect the government or your best friend there to come make my world better for me. Which means that when it all comes crashing down, it wont be a shock to my persona and I will be able to deal with it.

Being passive about everything is part of the problem in this country, especially those in that 1 percent. Hope that someday, before that happens, you wake up and smell the real trash thats happening.

The rest will be able to handle it. I am not convinced you will be able to. Government wont come to your rescue. Obama wont lift you up and take you to the glorious promised land. You will be in the muck pit with everyone else, as I will be too. Lets see what happens in the comming months, I suspect that within 4, you will be finding a new best friend.



Cheers!!!!


reply posted on 21-2-2009 @ 12:56 PM by RFBurns
Originally posted by uaocteaou
The difference, I believe, between the Frech and th U.S.A. well, one stark difference is that "over there" the governments are afraid of the people, here the peope are afraid of the government.


I think its more of a problem of being passive than afraid. Someone else will do something about it attitude. Those folks could learn alot about being involved by those who took action back in the 60's.

Originally posted by uaocteaou
We hav all become too wrapped up in our x-boxes and the cult of celebrity, that we've become lazy and apathetic. How mny times have you heard someoe say "why doesn't someone do something about that?" well, that someone should be you, and me, but unfortunately we always allow ourselves to become complacent.


Its the attitude of the guy next door will do something so I dont need to. Thats the problem, most think that someone else will handle it, and thats not enough to make a change happen.

Originally posted by uaocteaou
I am so frustrated by the fact that I hve allowed myself to become one of the masses, and it really pisses me off.

Having worked "on he iside" for many years, I have personally seen first hand how our government manipulates us and the lives we live.

-peace


Ahh but your here and you see whats going on, and you recognize whats going on and even know what must be done! Give yourself some credit friend, not everyone has the guts to admit they may have been wrong and are angry at themselves. Some like to just spout about how they just write off everything and sit on their butts and dont care.

Star for you!!



Cheers!!!!


reply posted on 21-2-2009 @ 01:26 PM by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by ConservativeJack





lol, I own a health care company, Obama's my best friend! Government pays my checks! So, get out of my face with the world is ending, ats, dime a dozen, fear mongering,

That is a rather interesting comment, considering these comments you made about Obama on an OP YOU created on 11-30-2008:
www.abovetopsecret.com...



I propose, Liberals are secretly HAWKISH on the war. They are secretly on BOARD with GW Bush. Think about it, Obama has been elected for a month and he hasn't said ONE WORD about Iraq. He is planning on WINNING and TAKING THE CREDIT. Those of us who listened to these LIBS for 8 years telling us we were "raiding Civilians and bombing children" (Obama's words not mine), actually were LYING and simply LYING to WIN! Ugh, you have to love that audacity of hypocrites. It's honestly pathetic.


So which is it? Is Obama your BEST FRIEND, or is he PATHETIC? The world awaits your answer, Jack.



reply posted on 21-2-2009 @ 01:46 PM by Bruiex
reply to post by ConservativeJack



How do you have negative points in the thousands? You must be real popular here cause that's the first time I have seen a negative that high.

I don't make crap, I have been on unemployment since April last year a ex-felon who is barred in my State because of laws and insurance policies to have a decent job.
Stay up there with your money and your smugness.We will see what happens when this situation keeps crumbling and the stimulus just bandaids the bleeding and still keeps spiraling, it will be like the French revolution and folks like you will be headed to the guillitine.

Yea, I'm a Loser, a loser who will get to pull the cord on you one day, soon.

[edit on 21-2-2009 by Bruiex]


reply posted on 21-2-2009 @ 02:27 PM by j2000
reply to post by Bruiex



Sorry, but I've had neg. points trying to stand up to these ego centered trolls. Just like the Glenn Beck thread, they come on for kicks to try and disrupt a good thread people actually care about and are making progress on.


reply posted on 21-2-2009 @ 02:42 PM by Omac9
reply to post by Bruiex





I agree with a lot of whats been said so far on the issue. (As Americans we have become more complacent/lazy)
But...I also find it funny that on countless websites you'll see 99% of posters saying how disgusted they are with the state of America and how they will not stand by and take it, yet nothing changes.

There seems to be a thousand internet tough guys saying we should take action and open our eyes blah blah blah.......but things (according to the same people) are getting worse. If so many posters on the internet feel SO strongly then why are more civil liberties being taken away, stimulus plans being passed, etc etc?



Ultimately these posters are gonna do what we all are going to do, NOTHING. At least until it affects you personally. So please everyone stop acting like they are going to fight The Man, because at the end of the day you are going to pay your taxes, watch reality tv, and eat big macs.


Do I agree with everything the gov is doing? No. But lets all be honest, people are selfish and will only act when their own interests are threatened.
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