Originally posted by ConservativeJack
it's time for the middle class whites to eat some humble pie. The biggest joke going was that they could continue this fantasy...of the last decade.

Time for some tough loving. Stop living beyond your means it's ruining the country, literally killing us.

Save, Work Hard, be a good Family man, and that's it. No more Benzs for 23 year olds. No more 3 million dollar McMansions.

Stop.

Stop.

You're out of control and ruining this nation. At least the wealthy pay their fair share, they buy a big house they'll pay for it, because they have the money and are living responsibly. But, you know it's bad when the shoe shiner starts giving you stock advice. This middle class needs to be taken down quite a few notches.

Check the numbers instead of just spewing simple-minded resentful bile.

The poor pay little in taxes, the rich are able to defer or utilize sanctioned tax avoidance. The sidewalk you walk on, the water that comes out of your tap, is paid for almost totally out of the deductions from paycheck of guess who - the middle class.

What was that about white?


MF

How do you people not realize that the economic crash is ENTIRELY psychological, and that by spreading fearmongering material like this with a straight face, you are PROPAGATING IT?!?!? There is still as much goods, material, and workforce in the US (and the world) right now as there was before the crash. And it's all as equally valuable (in a survival sense) as it was before. The US consumer economy is psychologically driven by advertising. (they don't produce anything). By scaring people further, and preventing them from spending you are slowing the flow of water through the wheel that is the economy. The economy loses momentum (creashes) and people starve until some future psychologioacally unifying event such as a war. You want to stop the crash? Stop #ing talking about it.

Originally posted by stevegmu

Actually, the top 10% of earners pay 70%. It is a myth the wealthy avoid paying taxes through deductions. Deductions and credits only go so far, and may make things a little more fair, but they certainly don't get many out of paying taxes.

If that really is the case, then my information is out of date. The figures I recall showed paycheck deductions as the largest single source.

Maybe things have changed more than I realize.


Mike f

I think now would be a good time to invest in farmland. Large communal groups that work together and survive on their own. You want socialism not communism. Socialism everyone works together for the good of all everyone helps and everyone contributes in a meaningful way. work hard and enjoy the fruits of your labours literally. The Hutterites and Amish people have done it for many many years and with little gov't interference.

Anyone foolish enough to doubt that the "crash" is psycological should check the current amount of dollars floating around and how many more is being printed as we speak.

The dollar is going, going, gone.

And then what you ask?

100,000 USD for a loaf of bread?

Is this really the 2nd Great Depression, or even "The Greater Depression"? I hope not, but I just pray my family can get through it. I have four children, four dogs, one cat, and one wife (of course). I only have one job (I say only, because I usually have two or three plus my online business (www.findmycards.com). I'm having a very tough time looking for another job. Well not looking for one; that's easy. Finding one is the hard part. The thing is I really need that second job, my business is failing (and on sale for $100,000, including half a million worth of merchandise!) and I need the dough. like a Baker at 3am. Anyone want to hire a tutor with a Master's Degree? ten bucks an hour, and I have materials, Bachelor's in Early Childhood Ed. and Master's in Adult Education. I'm a steal! I don't know how to add a signature, so I'll make my own..
"If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember what you said."
-Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens)

sometimes i have the feeling, the news chanels are
more provocating it then warning us about it