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Originally posted by hardcoremusiclover
We all know that heaven is reward for embracing God.
But if your a terrible evil person, then why would you be tortured in hell? Wouldn't the devil want to embrace you? Reward you for being such an evil person? I dont get it?
Did I miss something? Wouldn't evil souls get along and plot against God instead of just torture each other?
Originally posted by moocowman
reply to post by Jim Scott
You have a creator, God. He loves you. He would leave 99 sheep to find the lost sheep. He came not into the world to condemn it, but to save it.
How is it possible for the creator of all that there is to loses anything ?
Equally so, why would the creator of all that is need to save the world from anything. To say that the creator of all that there is, is intent on saving, then this implies that, that to what it is saving from, is not created by the creator. If this the case then logically the creator of all that there is, is not the creator of all that there is, and that there is another creator/creators, creating something that the first would need to save from.
Originally posted by aNdReSk
I used to ask the oposite thing, would we get orgies and unlimited alcohol in heaven? :p I doubt it..
Originally posted by Electricneo
Hell and the devil are metaphors-hell is a metaphor for an intense suffering state of mind.
Only unsophisticated and naive peasants take it literally.
The devil is symbolic of the de-evolution from the human realm to lower realms like the insect or animal realm. That is why the devil is depicted with animal horns, cloven hoofs and a tail. Hell is symbolic of the increase in suffering that is the result of a lack of compassion and suffering states of mind such as hate, jealousy, ignorance and uncontrollable rage. That is why the devil is red as this uncontrollable rage on a human results in a red face.
If one is smart enough to have the realization of re-incarnation or that the mind has continuity in the space-time continuum. Then you can realize how a hateful, ignorant human being who is reborn as a dung beetle is the same as a being going to hell as a result of the consequences
or karma of cause and effect. The cause being the hate that causes suffering in others and the result -the de-evolution into the insect realm and incarnation as a dung beetle.
If God created EVERYTHING including "satan" and "hell", then God is responsible for dishing out the punishment....God is Love, lol
Originally posted by TheAbstract
reply to post by seabisquit
There hasn't been a single person you know that has seen Christ except for those folks in the Bible...who are those people...we don't know them. Just like the Lochness monster, God is imaginary