What is with all the "Christianity-Debunking" attempt threads?, page 2
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reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 03:06 PM by Revolution-2012
reply to post by justamomma



Who cares.

Honestly.

Let people believe what they wan't to believe.

I believe that penguins are the true gods, and they are a highly intelligent species. Where do you think Unidentified Submergeable Objects come from?

Let it go. Just let it go. Breath deeply, and say to yourself, it really does not matter what other people think and chances are I'll never be able to change their beliefs.



reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 03:16 PM by justamomma
Originally posted by thehumbleone
What do you hope to achieve by trying to destroy peoples faith?

Can you tell me one evil thing Jesus taught? Name one.

Do his teachings not show humanity how to love above all? Love your neighbor as yourself, and love God with all you heart, soul, mind and strength.

Please help me see the deception because I do not see it.


What would you have to gain by allowing people to blindly believe something false that has been used to manipulate and deceive them?

Yes... one thing..

Here is a great summery a good friend of mine posted up.. he says it much better than I could:

"Yes, there was something Jesus did, which I wish he had not done, because it does
not represent well the People he belonged to.

Once a Gentile Canaanite mother was crying after him, asking for her daughter to be cured, and Jesus would not give a damn to her. His disciples told him to do something for that woman or discard her, because she was making them go crazy with her no-stop crying.

What did Jesus say? I haven't come for Gentiles but ONLY for the House of Israel. Then, kept on going and the woman kept on crying and following him.

When he couldn't take any longer, he stopped and told her: Hey, listen, what do you want from me? To cure my daughter Master. No way, I cannot take of the food of the children and throw it unto the dogs.

He meant the Jews for the children, and the Gentiles for the dogs. But only after the woman understood and recognized her condition of dog, by saying that the dogs also feed from the crumbles that fall from the table of the children, Jesus saw that he would never get rid of that woman. So, he changed his mind and cured her
daughter. Then, to erase a little the impression left on her for being forced to recognize her doggy condition, he mentioned something about her strong faith and left.

That was terrible, if we can imagine what that poor woman went through till she got
what she wanted. The text is in Matthew 15:21-28."


So, you tell me.... does that show humanity how to love each other?


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 03:27 PM by thehumbleone
reply to post by justamomma



LMFAO wow. That interpretation of the actual events is so skewed I'm not even gonna bother with it. It's so ridiculous its laughable.

BTW, good job nitpicking certain parts of the gospel to fit your criteria.

I'd recommend anyone reading this should read the entirety of the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Then decide for yourself.

I hope you have fun with your "mission" of trying to debunk Christ, justamomma. I'm sure you wont get anywhere with it. But hey, I guess everyone needs something to keep their lives entertaining.


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 03:37 PM by Aoxoa
If you had of read most the replies of people in other various threads its because of alot of reason. Im not hate mongering you, but just giving you various insight into views that some of us have towards not only Christianity, but any religion.

Firstly its a huge tool of control for the general populace. Obey these rules and lead happy lives, but if you disobey them, you will ROT in ETERNITY. This word represents forever, there is no if, buts or any justice if its forever... There is absolutely nothing that can outweigh this. Forever suffering, in pain with no chance of being redeemed is in itself the worst torture and enduring form that could only ever be placed upon us by something of total evil.

While I know its supposedly the devil that would induce such a punishment (From the religious point of view), im quite certain that nothing ever is absolute apart from souls, which since I have never died, apart from near death experiences(asthma) im quite certain that no one else ever has.

Next is the pure fact that this Jesus character (And God, etc) has only ever been really heard of from 1. Our parents/guardians/religious folk/and etc, 2. the bible, a book which just like any other book is printed words which can be changed at whim and etc.

But for myself and a multitude of people we have never experienced any contact with him/them and this bible supposedly is what we must obey or be eternally damned in huge suffering and pain, unto which is quite a big effort for even a almighty entity for eternity, let alone with billions upon billions of people, non-believers (Who obviously may have not even known about this god/bible/etc in the first place)..

Anyway suffice it to say, that there are so many variables in the puzzle that is christianity that it would be foolish to even consider that somehow this must be all 100% true, and all accounts that have not even been backed up by proof apart from a book and fellow humans "telling you" should account for anything.

I mean say for example, that I tell you there is an invisible dog that follows me around. Is it there? I sure as heck tell you it is. But will you believe me? You cannot hear it, or feel it if it were to bite you. But just as a Christian priest woudl tell me that God exists and he is talking, or even biting me.. I cannot feel it.

While I honestly would love a god that exists to 'love and care' for me... Why is there so much suffering in this world for same said loving and caring god. Children being hurt in unspeakable ways, people dying from hideous diseases while others are using their power to advantage themselves in monetary ways and all the above. Life is a lesson, and no entity can control you, just like a mental illness... Those poor people that commit crimes based on it... Sinful crimes, are they to blame? Eternity of pain and etc, despite maybe their physical brains just cannot act 'normal' or etc.

Sorry for the long post but trying to prove a loving and caring God exists is as useful as me trying to prove my invisible dog which you cannot see, feel or hear exists as well.



reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 03:41 PM by justamomma
Originally posted by thehumbleone
reply to
post by justamomma



LMFAO wow. That interpretation of the actual events is so skewed I'm not even gonna bother with it. It's so ridiculous its laughable.

BTW, good job nitpicking certain parts of the gospel to fit your criteria.


I perceive you to be someone who likes to use religion to control others, no? Else, why would you only attempt to belittle someone for answering your question?

What is laughable is your inability to come up with a better reply than that.


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 03:47 PM by thehumbleone
reply to post by justamomma



Well this statement shows how well you can read people.

I don't really follow any religion. I read the Gospel for what it is and believe in the Good News.

So no, I don't need religion to control anyone. What I would like to see is for humanity to follow Christs two most important commandments: love your neighbor as yourself, and love God with you whole heart, mind, soul and strength.

I'm not gonna waste my time arguing doctrines. I used to do that years ago on BTS. There are threads and posts of mine from years back if you wanna see for yourself.

I have since decided a long time ago to no longer waste my precious time like that as I see how pointless it is.

[edit on 2/7/2009 by thehumbleone]


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 03:51 PM by justamomma
Originally posted by thehumbleone
reply to
post by justamomma



Well this statement shows how well you can read people.

I don't really follow any religion. I read the Gospel for what it is and believe in the Good News.

So no, I don't need religion to control anyone. What I would like to see is for humanity to follow Christs two most importance commandments: love your neighbor as yourself, and love God with you whole heart, mind, soul and strength.

I'm not gonna waste my time arguing doctrines. I used to do that years ago on BTS. There are threads and posts of mine from years back if you wanna see for yourself.

I have since decided a long time ago to no longer waste my precious time like that as I see how pointless it is.



Not good enough... you should address the answer I gave to your question. That is bs since I was courteous enough to acknowledge it... now, you ignore and sidetrack.

Nope... back up and tell me why my answer was wrong according to you... else, you should acknowledge that Jesus had a terrible "oops" moment!

[edit on 7-2-2009 by justamomma]
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