What is with all the "Christianity-Debunking" attempt threads?, page 3
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reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 03:51 PM by BO XIAN
reply to post by SumnerKagan



For the same reason we don't see or hear cursing like:

"Oh __________ Buddah!"

"Oh __________ Muhammad!"

"Oh __________ Krishna!"

Yet we hear the Precious Name of Jesus used that way 24/7 and even on prime time it seems like.

Why?

Satan knows who THE ONLY TRUE GOD IS.

He doesn't need to tarnish the other stuff.

But he sure loves to wind folks up AGAINST THE TRUTH!

Besides, his folks get a kind of thrill out of trying to throw sand in God's eyes by assaulting Believers that go by God's Name.

Why there's so much of it on here?

1. It's an alternative site of a majority of atheists and agnostics--even a mod asserted hereon that most of the mods are atheist and agnostic though some have tried [unsuccessfully, to me] to deny that. Certainly the hostility to Christianity is greater hereon even than the hostility to Jihadi's who rape women in order to seduce them by guilt into blowing themselves up for the cause.

2. The Oligarchy has been increasingly going to great lengths to blackwash, denigrate, flush, obliterate Christianity from the public square fairly overtly for at least the last 50-100 years.

3. These are the Biblical END TIMES when God has warned us that evil will increase dramatically and that even authentic Believers will be increasingly persecuted.

4. In keeping with the above #3, the black is getting more pervasive, blacker, more intense and wider spread. Thankfully, God has promised to raise up a standard against it. But it's going to be horrific--more horrific than any since the planet was formed and more horrific than it ever will be again.

5. REBELLION. REBELLION IS IN. DEATH IS IN. DEATH, MAYHEM, CHAOS, ANARCHY have been wound up, advertised, glorified etc. by the MSM and Hollyweed at the behest of the Oligarchy in order to stir up more death and destruction; chaos--making it easier to force the global government on the hapless "USELESS EATERS" that need 'exterminated' anyway to make the remaining 200 million slaves easier to manage by those on top of the heap. And REBELLION is most "fun" against the ONE TRUE GOD--FATHER, SON, SPIRIT.


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 04:02 PM by Basilis
reply to post by BO XIAN



I don't recall ever seeing any moderator hostile towards Christians. In fact, I believe a few of them follow the Christian belief.

And I'm sure if anyone spewed forth pure hate unto Christians, they would get a ban/warning. Are you sure you're not confusing hate with debate?

-Will


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 04:03 PM by thehumbleone
reply to post by justamomma



I don't waste my time arguing doctrines anymore.

Like I said before, you pick one certain part of the gospel that fits your criteria.

But just for you; let's look at what your contention is. You are arguing that because Jesus did not want to help this woman at first, that it somehow makes him a bad person. But does it really?

What was the end result? Did he grant the womans request or not? He did in fact grant her request.

There are many other instances in the Gospels where he helps out Gentiles.

As I said, this is a case of someone trying to single out certain parts of the Gospel to fit their agenda.

[edit on 2/7/2009 by thehumbleone]



reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 04:06 PM by justamomma
Originally posted by thehumbleone
reply to
post by justamomma



Like I said, I don't waste my time arguing doctrines anymore.


This would be an acceptable answer had you not mocked my reply to your question. I did not have to answer you, but I was kind enough to acknowledge you and you mocked it. Though I understand that you mocked in your ignorance and am not offended, I would still be interested as to why you think I am wrong in my reply.

I do acknowledge your right though to not admit your blunder and to bow out of the discussion. It is your right and I do not hold that against you.



[edit on 7-2-2009 by justamomma]


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 04:09 PM by KOGDOG
reply to post by justamomma



No need to quote your twisted and might I add anti-Semitic misinterpretation of Matthew 15:21-28. The key verse is Math 15:28 which you trivialize.

Mat 15:28 Then answering, Jesus said to her, O woman, great is your faith; let it be to you as you desire. And her daughter was healed from that hour.

It's a big deal for Jesus to say to someone "great is your faith". The story is about the Jews who have suffered dearly for their "faith/mission". The woman showed her respect for the Jews and all they have done in their service to God. You might do the same... and perhaps God will deliver you.


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 04:09 PM by thehumbleone
reply to post by justamomma



Haha wow. Well thanks for ignoring the rest of my post.

A true display of your character.


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 04:21 PM by justamomma
Originally posted by KOGDOG
reply to
post by justamomma



No need to quote your twisted and might I add anti-Semitic misinterpretation of Matthew 15:21-28. The key verse is Math 15:28 which you trivialize.

Mat 15:28 Then answering, Jesus said to her, O woman, great is your faith; let it be to you as you desire. And her daughter was healed from that hour.

It's a big deal for Jesus to say to someone "great is your faith". The story is about the Jews who have suffered dearly for their "faith/mission". The woman showed her respect for the Jews and all they have done in their service to God. You might do the same... and perhaps God will deliver you.



Uhm.. I am jewish.


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 04:25 PM by KOGDOG
reply to post by justamomma



Uhm.. I am jewish.
**********************
Then how is it that you did not understand the "lesson"?


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 04:28 PM by justamomma
Originally posted by thehumbleone
But just for you; let's look at what your contention is. You are arguing that because Jesus did not want to help this woman at first, that it somehow makes him a bad person. But does it really?

What was the end result? Did he grant the womans request or not? He did in fact grant her request.

There are many other instances in the Gospels where he helps out Gentiles.

As I said, this is a case of someone trying to single out certain parts of the Gospel to fit their agenda.

[edit on 2/7/2009 by thehumbleone]



Yes.. you are right, though not about being a testiment to my character. I was doing several things when reading this and I misread it. I apologize.

Okay... so, he may have answered it... BUT NOT UNTIL she realized that he was calling her a dog!

Imagine that was you for a second. You put all your faith in this person and have the guts to approach him knowing that you could be a laughing stock, and not only are you, but then you are called a dog.

Yes, she got what she wanted, but look at what she was made to be put through to get it. G.d clearly says in the TAnakh that He is not a respector of persons and Jesus NEVER treated the Jews this way when they came to him. It is biased and wrong despite the end result. She had to leave with the shame of knowing she had been seen as the same as a dog would have been seen.

His "faith" comment was no different than a man would do with his dog.

Here's your treat doggie... it is wrong to treat people that way!


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 04:29 PM by TheRealDonPedros
reply to post by mithrawept



How is Atheism not a belief? So you don't "believe" there to be anything after death, you just "know" this?

I was under the impression that there is a larger body of evidence proving just the opposite, that there definitely is something that happens in NDE's (near death experiences).

Regardless there is no proof either way.

So until there is, you may think you "know" what awaits us after life but its still faith based knowledge, whether you're hoping to see your dead grandparents or hoping to see nothing.

Peace

[edit on 8-2-2009 by TheRealDonPedros]
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