Israel to launch war against Iran within a month

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posted on Feb, 7 2009 @ 12:13 AM
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reply to post by rationaluser
 

Rationaluser, I appreciate your comments. Thank you. It's always nice to get some direct feedback, and you are most generous.

Actually, the last thing I am, is impatient. In fact, my patience enabled my survival in combat. I hunted my foes like a spider. Just as the spider carefully selects his spot, and waits, and waits, and waits - eventually my prey would walk right into my specially prepared destruction. It's truly an art.

I have no idea what you're talking about, knocking Israel's jets. They're probably not going to linger over Iran. Whatever they decide to do, you can believe it will be quick, hard, and fast.

In addition to communicating with the local Air Traffic Control Facilities, all aircraft in the Persian Gulf AOR are required to give the Iranian Air Defense Radar (military) a ten-minute heads-up if they will be traversing Iranian air space.

This is a common procedure for commercial aircraft, and involves giving them your call sign, transponder code, type aircraft, point of origin, and destination.

This was a conversation as recorded by another pilot on the VHF Guard frequency of 121.5 MHz, while flying from Europe to Dubai.

Iranian Defense Radar: "Unidentified aircraft, you are in Iranian
airspace. Identify yourself."

Aircraft: "This is a United States aircraft. I am in Iraqi
airspace."

Iranian DR: "You are in Iranian airspace! If you do not depart
our airspace, we will launch interceptor aircraft."

Aircraft: "This is a United States Marine Corps F-18 fighter.
Send 'em up. I'll wait."

No response. Totally silent.

Yep, tell me about Iranian capabilities.

They suck.




[edit on 7-2-2009 by dooper]




posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 04:50 AM
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Wow using one example to thwart my claims no aircraft defense system is 100% accurate and that goes double for the people operating it believe it or not iran doesn't want to start a war and the fighter was probably in iraqi airspace but even if it were in iranian airspace iran isn't stupid it knows if this fighter is in iranian airspace it isn't going to just stay there for 20 mins while they launch escorts to deter said fighter and to be honest dooper i don't see what this has to do with anything apart from how 1 peace time violation got through much like that bomber carrying live nukes was in airspace accross america (i think it was their own bomber) but i would have loved to see (for the lulz) the american f-16 approach any minor/major city in iran and see it leave unscathed (truth is dooper iran has the technology to produce all the sh** iraq does and they scored hits in the iraq war but iranian technology is the most advanced in the arab world so imagine israeli jets going over and imagine how many are going to come back)



posted on Feb, 12 2009 @ 08:19 PM
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Pretty sure this wont happen. I'll be back in a month or so to debunk this thread just as i do all the others that are posted as date threads. One day the sheeple wont be buying into this BS.

THE DEBUNKER



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 09:48 PM
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Qute from external source

""The real problem, as we all know by now, is this:

Unlike the US and Israel, Iran has not attacked other countries in recent history. There is enough documented evidence indicating that the US planned the oil wars long ago and that Iran was one of the targets. Strong Iran is also an obstacle for Israeli territorial expansion in Arab countries. In this situation, EVEN IF Iran was trying to develop an effective nuclear deterrence capability IN SELF-DEFENCE, it would be perfectly understandable and perfectly justifiable.

If the US and Israel want other countries to give up their nuclear programs, they should give an example by doing same first. This, however, will not happen because these two “partners” believe that they can unilaterally bully other nations into submission. The clear pattern here is: disarm, so that we can take over your resources and your territories, or else… we will attack you!

By the way, nobody has yet explained why “the world cannot live with a nuclear Iran”. The world lives with nuclear America, with nuclear Russia, nuclear China, and India, and Pakistan, and nuclear France, and United Kingdom, with nuclear Israel, and probably a host of other nuclear countries - and nobody threatens a war against them for this reason. Somehow, the world is safer, when countries have nuclear deterrence capabilities. Nobody questions their rights to develop nuclear programs for peaceful or military purposes. So why Iran? ""



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 11:05 PM
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The World today is just a chaotic place without real leaders
with people living on old patterns of barbarism,fear and xonophoby

We are in the last stages of living under the Fossil Fuel era.

It really must end. At any cost. Even at the cost of the world economy.

There is already evidence that we can live with clean or zero point energy,
It´s just stupid to stay living with fossil fuel cars. the planet needs urgently the fossil fuel era to end. Its not inteligent anymore to stay in this
old fashion garbagge of the 20th century.

The new clean technologies are popping out everywhere. they just can´t conceal it anymore. it´s in google and youtube . It´s just a matter of choosing to be free from this suffering, then mankind will do a step forward. We must sacrifice the suffering. Stop our dependancy on oil
If Israel do us a favour of strikig Iran it will be the end of Israel

Israel finally showed to the world its real face. a very satanic face.

It must end really by GOD´s name. Now that they showed their real intent and also that they respect no basic and civilized rules they lost their value as humans.

what an desperate move they did in GAZA. Now their doom is coming in rapid wings. Even their GOD will not aprove that. It was against totally any
spiritual path. And the most high will not permit this. Is justa matter of time. The Law of Karma doesn´t fail. I never saw it fail.

And you know what? The Iranian president now has even more credit to
question the Holocauts numbers. It probably was overrated by the Media
controlled by Israel.

More here.

www.globalresearch.ca...



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 03:39 AM
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Originally posted by dooper
reply to

This was a conversation as recorded by another pilot on the VHF Guard frequency of 121.5 MHz, while flying from Europe to Dubai.

Iranian Defense Radar: "Unidentified aircraft, you are in Iranian
airspace. Identify yourself."

Aircraft: "This is a United States aircraft. I am in Iraqi
airspace."

Iranian DR: "You are in Iranian airspace! If you do not depart
our airspace, we will launch interceptor aircraft."

Aircraft: "This is a United States Marine Corps F-18 fighter.
Send 'em up. I'll wait."

No response. Totally silent



[edit on 7-2-2009 by dooper]


Source, back up?



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 02:50 PM
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What some fail to recognise is that America and Israel have got no friends, if they think they can attack Iran with impunity they are in for a big shock. The nations of the World will not be cowered by the gansters that run the US/Israel. The armed forces of those nations arrayed against these two despot nations are more than adequate to do the job.

In fact the London financiers have already brought the US to its knees, all it needs is just another tug on the noose around its neck and the US won't have the money to pay its own troops. Those delluded people who think they can take on the World have no comperhension of the power that is held by those who do run the show, and they are not American or Israeli.

They will be allowed to have their war, but it will be a war that will break both nations as that is what is being planned. Iran is merely the vehicle that will achieve that end. Israel and the US are being led like donkies to their unwitting end, only when the dust settlles will people realise the truth.



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 03:27 PM
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I think you're right but if they take hostage of Afghanistan they will involve NATO, EU, and Australia [note my country is trying to rebuild Uruzgan just like other EU countries]




[edit on 15-2-2009 by Foppezao]



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 04:17 PM
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The fact that Iran in the past has not directly attacked anyone means nothing.

The leadership of Iran are dying to enable the arrival of the 12th Mahdi. Not the people of Iran, necessarily, the leadership. In fact, that old turd Khomeini had outlawed the current governing group as he considered them crazy and very dangerous.

When you get a sour, bitter, crazy, fanatical SOB to call another group crazy and extremely dangerous, that's a group of lunatics.

Khomeini died, everyone got excited, and they spilled the poor old bastard out of his casket and onto the ground. I laughed so hard my sides hurt.

So desiring the return of the 12th Mahdi, Iran's current leadership feels they must destroy the Litte Satan, Israel, and the Big Satan, the United States. By doing so, they can forcibly usher in the arrival of the 12th Mahdi.

This is their promise. This is their message.

Now.

They just launched their first orbital satellite. Look up the name of the rocket, and the name of the satellite.

They are going all out for destruction, and I'm all for destruction. For anyone who thinks that the US cannot afford another war, especially an all-out destruction of a nation, let me remind you of this.

All our current inventory is bought and paid for.

And it's one hell of an inventory.

Iran wants nukes? They want war? They want destruction?

I would hate for those dumbasses to go away disappointed. If Israel wants to give them their desire, then I certainly have no problem with it.

Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Kuwait, Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Jordan, and others would have zero problem with Iran, a country of arrogant Persians, getting their butts kicked again by a Western Power.

Someone called me bloodthirsty.

In a fight to the death, I only know one way for sure to win. And you'll never find me talking when it's a shooting situation.

Of course, I'm here. The enemies I met in combat are dead.

And I'm not apologizing for it.

My way works.



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 04:26 PM
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Don't worry so much about Iran dooper

Our real enemy is in ourselves.
Fear eats the soul.



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 05:19 PM
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Dooer what are you going to do when America and Israel gets their butts kicked, cry. Your much vaunted military is not as capable as you think, your nations constant failure to win wars is example of this. There is a big difference to what you think you can do and reality, and reality has shown us that the US cannot deliver the goods pure and simple.

Be it Vietnam, korea or Iraq the US has failed on each occasion and you know why. Its because your people cannot stomach war, thats why even now you are lied to about the real casulties in the ME and why your Government does not post the number of civillians killed. Its because you are weak and do not have to means to carry out your boasts.

Georgia is yet another example of this weakness, the Ruskies caught you on the hop and you hightailed it out of there with your tail between your legs, the US military has a habit of doing that does it not. It must come as an awfull shock to realise that all the money and weaponry counts for nothing when one does not have to balls to see the job finished successfully.

Without the US Israel has no means of winning in a conflict and with it only means its complete destruction. The World knows that the US and its friends lied about Iraq and they know now that it is lying about Iran. They also know that America allowed thousands of its own citizens to be murdered as an excuse for war. How long do you think the people of the US are going to put up with this. Do you think there going to let the warmongers such as you and your friends destroy their nation.

No the time will come where they will stand and fight the corrupt regime that infests the US. That the military will shrink and the wars and murder will stop. If Israel and its people wish to live and prosper then it needs to make peace, when that is achieved there will be no need for war or the fools that fight them.



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 06:07 PM
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We in the US haven't entered a war to win since late 1941. In Korea, we hoped for a draw, and we got a draw.

In Vietnam, we hoped for a draw, and we lost.

Since 1945, we have only used our military to pursue political determinations, and let these same political determinations limit our military. Not once since 1945 have we cut the dogs loose.

In Iraq, we have put political limitations on our military. Arbitrary, political limitations.

In Afghanistan, we felled the Taliban government with fewer than 300 Special Forces, Company Branch Operatives, TACP personnel, and overhead bombing support. And we did that in weeks. Alexander took three years.

We in the US haven't gotten into a serious war since late 1941. We haven't entered a war to win, since our little excursion to oust Saddam.

God help the SOB's that piss us off. You keep dreaming. Your perception of the US and its military is as far removed from reality as one could only obtain by doing too many magic mushrooms.

Just a short note. Even in Korea and Vietnam especially, we won all our battles. In Desert Storm, we went through the Iraqi Army like a dose of salts.

In Iraq Part 2, we went through the Iraqi Army like crap through a goose.

Westerners, especially the US military will always overcome their stupid, foolish leadership once our backs are to the wall. Always have. Always will.

And when we go in to win, we kill like no others on earth.

Efficiently, effectively, and when required, we have no problem putting entire cities to the torch.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 09:27 PM
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You made your point, but there is a difference between winning war and winning peace. Surely the US won the short campaign in Gulf.2, but havent won peace for the next 5/6 years in a collapsed country split in three.. [its getting a little better nowadays].
If they attack Iran, and criple their command, still Iranian troops/cells will flood Iraq, Afghanistan, and choke Hormuz [hence the world economy even more then it is now]..And do it cowardly guerilla style but then wearing night googles and the same tech as we' all got over here...really it aint gonna be pretty..



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 11:56 PM
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Your supposition is just that: supposition.

You assume that if compelled, the US will engage in limited warfare as has happened since 1945.

You then mention all the Iranian "attackers" and how they would make the US suffer.

That would just about be enough to make the US end Iran as a culture. No one has pissed us off since 1941.

The dumbass Iranians want paradise, to die as "martyrs," then the fastest way for the mostest is to attack the US citizenry.

We're looking for an excuse. A good excuse. And nothing soothes the American conscience for slaughter than attacks on our citizens.

As I stated, if Iran attacks Americaa in any capacity, they as a people and culture will cease to exist. Nukes are not the worst of weapons. Nukes can only destroy through concussion, fire, and radiation.

Old school. That technology is some 62 years old.

Just as the world experienced nothing like nuclear weapons until they were actually used, just let the US get attacked, and then pissed off.

Persia will be nothing more than a name in the history books.



[edit on 15-2-2009 by dooper]



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 07:43 PM
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I don't really doubt a swift victory[and i support a swift shock&awe campaign but rather not by the US], but i am worried about a long aftermath..You see US foreign policy has not been very famous and keen for long term strategies, thats why they're fighting the same Taliban/Mudjahedien] they supported in the 80's, and the same Iraqi's they also supported in the 80's..Now they're facing the same people they have supported from the 50's till 80's[and supported yet again a nasty Dictator:the Shah]..
All the US has accomplished in Iraq, -and i'am happy to see things are getting better over there with relative "free" elections and a more stable society-could be for nothing if a million men army crosses the border and entrenches in Iraqi cities and also Afghanistan, which could provoke NATO into the conflict and broadens the conflict[if Russia and CHina are not already involved].
I think its Israels problem, let them deal with it instead of puppeting the US yet again..



posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 12:15 PM
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Dooper, I think your missing the point, its not about killing , any fool can kill but thats not the point. its about those who use and abuse power for their own ends and their own agenda's. None of the US's actions in the ME makes the US or its people any safer not that they were a target in the first place.

Secondly to judge your country capabilities on Iraq is just silly indeed. before G1 it was so weakened by the Iran/iarq war it offered not real resistance, on top of that we then had years of sanctions, no fly zones and all the rest of it. Come G2 an illegal war Iraq has no real military to speak of and one that could not puit up any kind of prolonged resistance to anyone never mind the US.

Butour commentsdo highlight what I have said, you and other do repeatedly state that if your hands were not ties you could get the victory you want. But that is just the point I raise it is because your hands are always tied that you don't get the victories you think you should.

So therein lies the problem, yes the US military do have certain capabilities but nothing on the scale of what you think they have. Then your hog tied by the perps and planners and politicians that call the shots. And it is that differnce that makes the US weak in the eyes of others. The US and its leaders would balk at the deaths of millions of their citizens people such as the Russians and Chines just to name a few don't and they have proved it.

Warsare not always won with superior weaponry sometimes ideology is a far greater factor and come any war with Iran the US and Israel would loose. Irrespective of what you think you can do to that country the consequences for the US/Israel would be so dire that its not going to happen. At best the US/Israel will try to defang Iran but an all out war would see a conlict with at least Russia and China and possibly many others.

There may be some nut jobs in Israel and the US but I don't think they are suicidal. but time will tell and we will see what happens wont we.



posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by dooper


The dumbass Iranians want paradise, to die as "martyrs," then the fastest way for the mostest is to attack the US citizenry.


[edit on 15-2-2009 by dooper]



Which Iranians are you talking about here?
And why are they dumbass?
Thanks for your contribution.



[edit on 17-2-2009 by deccal]



posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 05:50 PM
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i don't buy it, not for a second.

i do not hink these 'people' those people in power and control mess up this badly.

this is psy-ops.

they are screwing with our heads.

basically, there is nothing to see here that 'they' dont want you to see.

perhaps an attempt at the provocation of iran, goading 'them' to act?

who knows could be anything, but what i do not think it is, is a real planned attack on iran.



posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 07:26 PM
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Israel wants to spark a war between the US and Russia. Israel attacking Iran means Russia is going to get involved. Israel knows this, and they will only attack Iran if the US is there to back their poon azz up.. Israel is only capable of fighting a war with civilians such as the Palestinians. Even so, they are still whimpy about it, using human shields and pointing guns at little children.



posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 09:04 PM
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Poon....azz....You might want to choose some other descriptive words. This forum says to deny ignorance and your stupidity is a big part of that ignorance.






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