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Originally posted by FreePalestine
I tell you why Israel can never take on Iran. And these points I am about to make are well know points to American and Israeli leaders, that is why even America is hesitant at striking at Iran, Iran has the upper hand in the Middle East dynamics today.
1) Iran is a democratically elected government.
5) Iran is militarily more developed than the Arab nations in the ME when it
comes to domestic arms production. It produces everything from tanks,
subs, frigates, ballistic missiles, missile boats, fighter jets, satellites,
helicopters, radars, APCs, etc.
7) It has trained Hezbollah and since Hezbollah tactics were so successful
imagine how Iranian military will fare in battle.
13) They can strike anywhere in the Middle East with their highly accurate
ballistic missiles, and across the world through IRGC operatives and
Hezbollah.
14) Iran has the satellites to seek accurate targets across the Middle East.
22) Iran holds all the cards in the Middle East right now and is in a more
favorable position in comparison to Israel and America.
Originally posted by GTORick
If Iran blocks the seaways then it might become a US problem.
Iran could also fire on US warships. Then it would involve us. IF it HAS to happen, what better time than with combat veterans right next door?
Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by FreePalestine
As far as that goes, one single boomer has more raw, destructive power than all of Iran. Just one.
Originally posted by Ex_MislTech
So that he knows you are telling the truth without question:
Trident Nuclear Missiles with multiple re-entry warheads
With 50+ American subs in the water, 20+ tubes each, and up to
8 warheads per missile you are looking at up to 8,000 glow zones.
Truly an end of the world fleet.
One boomer with 24 tubes would have up to 192 warheads.
The W88 is 475 Kilo-tons, or over 30 times the power of Little Boy.
Iran does not want to screw up too badly or they will face some
truly horrific backlash.
The MIRV method is to push the missile to the edge of space, and
let the warheads fall to earth.
Originally posted by munkey66
Originally posted by Ex_MislTech
So that he knows you are telling the truth without question:
Trident Nuclear Missiles with multiple re-entry warheads
With 50+ American subs in the water, 20+ tubes each, and up to
8 warheads per missile you are looking at up to 8,000 glow zones.
Truly an end of the world fleet.
One boomer with 24 tubes would have up to 192 warheads.
The W88 is 475 Kilo-tons, or over 30 times the power of Little Boy.
Iran does not want to screw up too badly or they will face some
truly horrific backlash.
The MIRV method is to push the missile to the edge of space, and
let the warheads fall to earth.
So you have a US fleet up against insurgents and are equipt with nukes?
Really sounds like they are truly trying to bomb their way to democracy and freedom.
Why would a fleet require those munitions unless they had a thought of using them.
These are not defensive weapons, they are attack weapons.
Originally posted by Ex_MislTech
If Iran nukes Israel or hits them with Bioweapons or Chemical weapons
we will likely tell Israel they are obliged to use their several dozen
nukes they built at the Dimona facility.
Originally posted by dooperAfter all, no one is going to allow Iran to have nuclear weapons. They are Islamic nuts! Fanatics!
The the best fanatic, is a dead fanatic.
2) Its people are all united amongst when it comes to confronting outsiders.
7) It has trained Hezbollah and since Hezbollah tactics were so successful
imagine how Iranian military will fare in battle.
9) It occupies strategic locations in the straight of Hormuz, in the Persian
Gulf and large borders with Iraq and Afghanistan.
11) Flood Iraq, Afghanistan and Lebanon with IRGC troops and Basji militias which number in excess of 12 million plus
12) It has stated that American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan are not a
threat to Iran but an advantage to Iran because they are more of a
hostage.
14) Iran has the satellites to seek accurate targets across the Middle East
15) American bases across the ME would be under threat with ballistic
missiles and IRGC operatives for allowing Israeli aircraft to access
Iraqi airspace.
Originally posted by dooper
I started to watch your YouTube post, and when it suggested that these Zionists were intellectually limited, I checked out.
Something like 155 Nobel Prize winners were Jewish, which would indicate that as a people, they have a 115:1 ratio over any other race.
That's not what I'd call intellectually limited.
Israelis are primarily Jewish, and Jews are apparently some of the most brilliant people in the world.
Originally posted by BuffaloJoe
While Iran's leader openly talks about the need to remove Israel and its citizens from the pages of history,
According to Juan Cole, a University of Michigan Professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History, Ahmadinejad's statement should be translated as:
The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad).[11]
According to Cole, "Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to 'wipe Israel off the map' because no such idiom exists in Persian". Instead, "He did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse
Originally posted by dooper
I started to watch your YouTube post, and when it suggested that these Zionists were intellectually limited, I checked out.
Something like 155 Nobel Prize winners were Jewish, which would indicate that as a people, they have a 115:1 ratio over any other race.
That's not what I'd call intellectually limited.
Israelis are primarily Jewish, and Jews are apparently some of the most brilliant people in the world.
So, knowing that, I opted out of your YouTube BS.
Hey! Remember when the Iranians dropped that old bastard Ayatollah Khomeini right out onto the street?
That's a class act, all right.
Originally posted by FreePalestine
I tell you why Israel can never take on Iran. And these points I am about to make are well know points to American and Israeli leaders, that is why even America is hesitant at striking at Iran, Iran has the upper hand in the Middle East dynamics today.
1) Iran is a democratically elected government.
2) Its people are all united amongst when it comes to confronting outsiders.
3) It has a very large and sophisticated military with advance tactical
development.
4) Iran's Nuclear energy program is the source of national pride and Iranian
military will be expected by the people to strike back in harsh ways.
5) Iran is militarily more developed than the Arab nations in the ME when it
comes to domestic arms production. It produces everything from tanks,
subs, frigates, ballistic missiles, missile boats, fighter jets, satellites,
helicopters, radars, APCs, etc.
6) It has a history of fight ferociously and aggressively against aggressors
7) It has trained Hezbollah and since Hezbollah tactics were so successful
imagine how Iranian military will fare in battle.
8) It has a huge population, natural resources, and land mass which gives it
strategic depth.
9) It occupies strategic locations in the straight of Hormuz, in the Persian
Gulf and large borders with Iraq and Afghanistan.
10) It can choke of the worlds oil & gas supplies in the Persian Gulf
11) Flood Iraq, Afghanistan and Lebanon with IRGC troops and Basji militias
which number in excess of 12 million plus
12) It has stated that American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan are not a
threat to Iran but an advantage to Iran because they are more of a
hostage.
13) They can strike anywhere in the Middle East with their highly accurate
ballistic missiles, and across the world through IRGC operatives and
Hezbollah.
14) Iran has the satellites to seek accurate targets across the Middle East
15) American bases across the ME would be under threat with ballistic
missiles and IRGC operatives for allowing Israeli aircraft to access
Iraqi airspace.
16) Iraqi would be engulfed with unrest unseen so far in its destructiveness
17) America and Israel will be alienated from the Muslim world to new
heights.
18) The European countries will refuse to cooperate with America and Israeli
arrogance and violation of Iranian sovereignty.
19) The Middle Eastern nations will refuse to allow American access to their
lands for a war with Iran.
20) Iran has the WMD to have MAD with Israel through its massive
chemical and biological stockpile which are enough to ensure deterrent
from Israel or America using unconventional weapons.
21) It has the ability to strike at Dimona and cuz massive radioactive fallout
22) Iran holds all the cards in the Middle East right now and is in a more
favorable position in comparison to Israel and America.
[edit on 3-2-2009 by FreePalestine]