Originally posted by fleabit
But even with all that, there is a difference in fixing a light, running cable.. or planting explosives. Would I noticed someone planting explosives? Yes, it would be pretty clear to me that this isn't normal activity. I'd be stunned if absolutely no one, including the regular maintenance staff, noticed nothing. If you were maintenance, wouldn't you wonder who this large team of people were running wires or planting charges in your building? It takes weeks to plan demolitions of smaller buildings. I'm amused that folks think that people are so dumb-stupid and non-aware, that something that possibly took weeks, went completely unnoticed.

Just to show you how wrong you are, I will tell you of an experiment by the Washington Post.

They had who is considered the best violinist (don't remember his name) in the world play the hardest and most lovely sonnet in the world at one of the metro stops here in DC for 45 minutes. BTW, tickets to see this guy costs hundreds of dollars per ticket.

Anyway, since he was dressed in normal clothes and playing at a metro stop, NO ONE even gave him a second glance. Well, ONE child did.

The best violinist playing the best sonnet didn't even get a second glance from people.

People aren't that observant. Period. All documented by the Washington Post.

Sorry to be slightly off topic.

WOW! What a thread!! I have been on ATS for about a year but never actually went threw getting an account until a couple of days ago. And this is the best thread i have ever seen here! Not that it is so overwhelming with evidence or any controversy. But the way people are responding to each other. Listening an posting interesting opinions.
I want to thank the OP for setting the tone and creating this topic!!
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Originally posted by jfj123
Sounds like normal construction to me.
Do you know how many floor would need to be wired for demolition, to drop the towers?

According to the Official Story and it's believers, all you need is one floor's worth of columns to be severed.

Originally posted by jfj123
Anyway, I get frustrated because I get stopped so much and asked what's going on? Who's moving into the suite? What's it gonna be? When is it gonna be done? Will this affect my computers? Will this affect my power or phone? etc... etc.... etc.... etc.....

And someone who is badged to be in the building under cover of some maintenance can't answer these questions with ....yes or no? Please.

First , I want to say that this is a good thread that BS put up. It is very true that the American people do not take so much as a cursory glance when something does not concern them.

However, the WTC had it's own security team along with the Port Authority officers. Would this mean that John O'Neill, who was the head of the FBI's counter terror office and an agent for over 30 years, part of the conspiracy? He was the leading expert on AQ. He was a lead in the USS Cole bombing so he was well aware of a threat of terror including the attack in 93? He took over the FBI field office in NY after the 93 attacks. Are we too believe that he would not have had security tight enough to not allow this or was he in on it?

Also, his remains were recovered from the site so he is not in hiding.

Originally posted by _BoneZ_

His name is Scott Forbes and he says:

Hilarious.

As proof that these things can go unnoticed, it is put forth that work on the towers was indeed investigated by SF and later reported.

This actually disproves the whole premise - namely, that this type of work goes unnoticed.

The TM sure has a strange interpretation of how this incidence backs their claims.

Originally posted by fleabit
I don't think that rigging the tallest building in our country would go unnoticed.

But even if people were so oblivious to people planting explosive charges, consider that after the collapse, people who work there would have said something about the activity after. Perhaps it didn't seem out of the ordinary at the time, but after, you'd think they'd put two and two together.

But even with all that, there is a difference in fixing a light, running cable.. or planting explosives. Would I noticed someone planting explosives? Yes, it would be pretty clear to me that this isn't normal activity. I'd be stunned if absolutely no one, including the regular maintenance staff, noticed nothing. If you were maintenance, wouldn't you wonder who this large team of people were running wires or planting charges in your building? It takes weeks to plan demolitions of smaller buildings. I'm amused that folks think that people are so dumb-stupid and non-aware, that something that possibly took weeks, went completely unnoticed.

Personally I can't believe you got a star for this post. It's called RESEARCH. Your first point HAS been addressed within the thousands of threads on this topic on this very site. Dozens of people have come forward with statements about suspicious activities and abnormal events taking place at the towers.

And the point about noticing someone planting 'explosives' has been addressed. Explosives DON'T have to have "Danger, high explosive" stamped on them. A crew could be working on the 'sprinkler' systems or anything of that sort that gave them access to the internal structure of the building and plant explosives. And when they are asked what they are doing, well, they're working on sprinklers of course.

It amazes me how people want to stick by the argument that it would be impossible to plant explosives in a building without people knowing. Also, to address the 'it takes MONTHS of planning and months to plant the explosives' argument. Well, yeah, it takes months if you have SAFETY as your number one objective. But, say, if you want to cause as much damage without regard for peoples safety (so the impact on the psyche of the nation will be greater) you simply rig and blow. Period. In all of the mayhem after the planes hit it makes it much easier to set off the charges a little at a time until the final rush goes. Once the building starts to fall that noise will override most other explosive sounds. Remember, this will have been the largest building ever demolished. The noise of the collapse was intense. And yes, there are explosions that can be heard.


**Edit to add: Oh yeah, I thought the Sears tower in Chicago was the tallest building in our nation? Hmmm.....


[edit on 2-2-2009 by dariousg]

Originally posted by esdad71
However, the WTC had it's own security team along with the Port Authority officers. Would this mean that John O'Neill, who was the head of the FBI's counter terror office and an agent for over 30 years, part of the conspiracy? He was the leading expert on AQ. He was a lead in the USS Cole bombing so he was well aware of a threat of terror including the attack in 93? He took over the FBI field office in NY after the 93 attacks. Are we too believe that he would not have had security tight enough to not allow this or was he in on it?

Since John O'Neill's first and last day of security at the towers was on 9/11, how do you propose he "had security tight enough" before he even got there to take charge?

Just throwin my two cents worth in:

I have worked in many (5) rather large buildings in my city. My position at these facilities is to know exactly what is going on in my building.

How would I know? I hire all the contractors. I know who is coming in my building to do work. I know what work is being done.

AT ALL TIMES

Could someone sneak a bomb in here?

Sure

Could someone wire this building I am in now for demolition?

No way.

I will tell you, most of the work I have done here goes unnoticed by the public. My staff along with the rest of the associates here will notice sheet rock being cut open and (insert bomb type here) with wires, or whatever.