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Originally posted by jfj123
Originally posted by g raj
I worked in demolition from 2002 to 2007. We would do work in schools, malls, office buildings, government buildings, and factories. Many times, we would be working in one section of the building, while the other parts were still occupied. I never once was asked for credentials, or questioned about my presence(most people wouldn't even make eye contact and/or acknowledge my existence).
As long as you have a pair of dickies and a hard hat, you can walk around nearly anywhere practically unnoticed(and before you wonder if i'm just a forgettable type of person, i am 6/3, with long hair, not exactly the blend into the background kind of guy). Every time i hear someone say that someone would have noticed this activity i laugh.
In the malls, and some of the buildings, we had to work at night due to noise complaints. We would come in after all employees had left, had our own keys, and would clean up and leave before the first employee showed up. I am pretty sure that my crew could have accomplished that which so many people say is impossible, and probably in a shorter time than most would believe.
So you are allowed to plant demolitions explosives in occupied buildings?? In what country do you live/work?
Originally posted by MischeviousElf
Originally posted by Seymour Butz
And oh yeah, would these be the hush-a-boom explosives again?
I must add as well,
Many Firefighters who were at different parts of the buildings, stated just after, and that night on tape and video, how they Heard the explosions, and the timing of them happening before the towers started falling.
Originally posted by sueloujo
There was an english guy working in the WTC who is on film as saying that he knew empty floors were being worked on. He stopped of at one of the floors out of curiosity and it was full of cables etc. He also said that every morning he had to dust down the window sill because it was full of dust. I will search for the film clip and post...unless somebody else knows of the film I am talking about.
Originally posted by optyk phyba
many of us are very observant as to what is happening and going on around us.
nothing happens where i work without me knowing or talking to the people involved, simply because as the it technician i need to know whether the computer network will be affected, and thats before they even start.
some people will pay attention while others may not, i dont think you have proved your point that it could have been done without anybody noticing that something was going on. some one would.
Originally posted by g raj
reply to post by jfj123
I apologize if i gave the wrong impression, we never worked with explosives in occupied buildings. The jobs would vary from full demolition of a building down to gutting a space to prepare for a remodel, and everything in between. The occupied buildings were usually being selectively demoed.
My point was the fact that my presence was barely noticed, let alone questioned(and this is all after September eleventh of two thousand and one), i never needed any kind of working pass, never had to sign in, show id, or anything else.
As a matter of fact, only once were we asked to go through a background check, and that was to work on Bill Gates' summer house(i requested to be moved to a different crew as i would rather not submit myself to that level of scrutiny).
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Multiple floors on fire three quarters of the way up the building burned for hours. Why didn’t this building fall? Why didn’t this building even become unsafe for occupancy? Something is not right.
Originally posted by sueloujo
reply to post by treemanx
The WTC 1 and 2 were designed specifically to withstand the largest fully laden Boeing aircraft around at the time of design and the architects actually state that each building could probably withstand 2 or 3 aircraft going into them.
The demolition had been planned for some time, and the ACT Government decided to turn the building implosion into a spectator event. Over 100,000 people, one of the largest crowds in Canberra's history, came out to bid farewell to the birthplace of many Canberra residents.
However, the implosion was a terrible failure. The main building did not fully disintegrate and had to be later manually demolished. But far worse, the explosion was not contained on the site and large pieces of debris were projected towards spectators situated 500 metres away on the opposite side of the Lake, in a location that nobody considered unsafe or inappropriate. A twelve year old girl, Katie Bender, was killed instantly, and nine other people were injured. Large fragments of masonry and metal were found 650 metres from the demolition site.
There were a number of other technical problems, including: the use of a steel backing plate instead of a soft backing plate, incorrect cutting of the columns, the failure to pre-weaken columns by using cutting charges and kick charges, the lack of independent advice on implosions and structure, the explosives were placed on the incorrect side of the columns facing the blast out over the lake, and the protective measures and testing were inadequate.
Originally posted by fleabit
I don't think that rigging the tallest building in our country would go unnoticed.
The building was literally being prepared for demolition will be an understatement as per conspiracy theory. The electricity departments were conducting power shutdown exercise at least a fortnight in advance, 34 the floor of the building was totally vacated, being the weakest link of the building and finally the clinching evidence of Nova Scott bank vacating most of its gold deposits from the building premises. Even the bomb disposal sniffer dogs were taken off duty in such a highly security zone and guess who was incharge of the security of the buildings Morgan Bush.