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Originally posted by Levita
Sigh~ seriously, i didn't mean to kill it, once again. But does the overuse of the two/ three ideas (Lillith/Kain/Dracula) really bother no one?
Originally posted by abraxes
reply to post by Levita
after some thought one reason i would guess that alot think of lillith as the first is because almost every vampire like creature that i have ever read of is generally described as female not all but alot, of course i do need to bone up on my mythology but hey i'm kinda lazy like that.
Originally posted by Levita
Originally posted by abraxes
reply to post by Levita
Not to say that biblical things aren't worth mention, but logically, does it really even make sense for humans to know the true 'first vampire'? Did you ever notice, that in a lot of the old tales, in varying religions, it [just only ~SEEMS~] that women play the more wrong, stupid, and selfish roles? Also, that anything associated with darkness or night was automatically evil in old religions and myths? But then again, perhaps it only ~seems~ that way................
(Anyway, If i ever got the chance to read the myths you speak of, I may. It would be interesting, i'm sure.)
1. i would have to agree that it really doesn't make much sense at all, i suppose for some searching for the first vampire (or any vampire for that matter) is really just a curiosity. i am by no means an expert in this area, but i am interested in myth and folklore and i suppose my real interest lies in the discovery of a progenitor from which a family tree and hence ancestry can be
plotted out and established and the corellation between that and what many think of as myth. admittedly to do that you would have to start from the bottom up to said progenitor to trace ancestry for it to be viable, and since i don't see any popping in to say hello (not that i would really want one to) it's really more of a pipe dream than anything. really just interested in the opinion of others and i would have to say thanks as well for the back and forth.
2. it has always bugged me that women do seem to be at the center more often than not of these predefined roles in myth at least the later period stories anyways, perhaps and it's just speculation but perhaps it's the fear of something they don't understand i mean lets face it men are pretty simple, humans and that includes men and women tend to give voice to or somehow express their fears or that which which they don't understand (to demonize the fear) and many of these tales were written by men and i'll be honest i don't think i will ever truly understand women, it is not an all pervasive fear or really even fear i just try to understand what little i can and enjoy them as much as possible. now back to the idea i was trying to go with in the earliest tales (sumerian, akkadian, egytian etc...)there was really no distinction between the two sexes (as i have said before i really do need to refresh my knowledge about these things so don't take it at face value) this asexual bent in the earlier ones is i think is a little truer because they were all described as monsters.
sorry for such along post, i hope you do get the chance to read them sometime
(The details of this first soap opera are reported with various embellishments.)