My doctor may in fact be trying to kill me...

reply to post by Johnmike

No, an accupuncturist will NOT help you with a gastrointestinal problem.

the point is, if he can't get regular doctors to order the tests, often times an acupuncturist or doctor of natural medicine can and will. they are more likely to forgo any attempts at psychoanalyzing the patient and just assume the person is suffering and the cause needs to be found.

i had severe (and i mean completely debilitating) neuropathy in all my extremities. i went to the hospital three times and was told it was a somatic disorder (all in my head). two months later, a military doctor noticed i had elevated blood sugar levels and diagnosed me as a type 2 diabetic. before that though, the doctors told me it was psychomatic and gave me pills for depression (which thankfully, i didn't take).

doctors are only human and can make mistakes. some bring prejudices with them to the table. some don't want to expend the necessary time and thought into correctly diagnosing your particular malady, especially if they think you have some psychological issue that may account for the problem (they need to leave the psychology to the psychologists/psychiatrists and just look at the malady).

for 2 years i was repeatedly diagnosed with acid indigestion and sent home with bottles of mylanta II. i could barely eat anything without severe indigestion and my abdomen was bloated and painful. it took my sister, who wasn't a doctor, to realize that it might be something i was eating. she listened carefully to what i was saying and wasn't restricted to a set format for diagnosing the condition. funny thing is (ironic!) that the bland diet the doctors put me on to solve the problem, promoted the thing i was eating ((poached) EGGS!) that had caused the problem in the first place. i was allergic to eggs. once i quit eating them, all my indigestion resolved.

so you never know! let's not assume either yea or nay, let's look at the whole picture and refrain from assuming

reply to post by Fat Azn


Ditch your doctor, go to a specialist.

My professor's friend went to a doctor to get treated for bleeding in her throat. The doctor said it was due to "gum disease."

She went to a specialist and they found, after testing, that she had a tumor.

Go see another doctor. It'd do you better good than posting your rants here.

That remark about the Asian, German, Jewish thing was totally unnecessary, you really are 22 aren't you.

reply to post by Fat Azn


Yes, absolutely get another doctor, but before you do, get some homework done: Go on WebMD as someone suggested or some of the other symptom engines on line and find out as much as you can about colorectal bleeding and it's possible causes.

You did not mention whether the doctor who is not treating you is a specialist, if not, he has an obligation to refer you to a specialist. If you didn't ask the first doctor what the causes and remedies of rectal fissures are, then you should absolutely ask the next doctor.

Be sure to stress how much this problem is hurting your quality of life. At the very least, you are at risk for anemia, and should probably be tested for that too.

Keep your tone and demeaner with any of these people very neutral and "appropriate" and unexcited. It's a sad commentary, but since these people have a lot of ability to mess with you and be uncooperative, it's always good to save more assertive tactics until needed "Always start with a feather, because you can always excalate to a hammer, but if you start with a hammer your optuions are more limited"

And, finally, I once had a similar problem with a medical provider during a time in my life when i was in counselling. The medical provider was a real (snip) and totally out of order, refusing to write a script that was working for me, had run out, and my counsellor said i needed to stay on it.

My counslor, who was quite canny, said something like "If that idiot doctor continue to be unhelpful tell them you are going to file a complaint of 'medical abandonment', " I did tell them that and, wow, it really set them to scurrying to help me. I guess a complaint of medical abandonment creates a bunch of trouble for medical providers,

Sorry for my crumby spelling. I'm old, tired, my body hurts all the time, and i'm too lazy to run spell checker. hope some of this made sense.

Mod edit: Censor Circumvention


[edit on 1-27-2009 by worldwatcher]

Definitely drive to another town or city and get an independent examination and colonoscopy for that matter. This is your health we're talking about. If you're not going to school at the moment I suggest dedicating every moment of that time to restoring your health. All this ranting is going to accomplish is elevate your stress, but at least you know what to do now. I suggest following the advice of all your fellow posters. I really do feel badly for you. I hope you find an answer. Good luck and good health in the mean time.

[edit on 27-1-2009 by cognoscente]

Originally posted by Fat Azn

At which point he said "It is probably all in your head because of your anxiety disorder" (He may in fact be mentally challenged because I told him repeatedly that my anxiety disorder was from back in high school when I saw him 6 years ago and since then am one of the least anxious people I know) ....

That's what happens every day to thousands of people going to doctors reporting symptoms congruent with Morgellons Syndrome.
they're told it's all in their head.

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I'd go see a specialist and ask about CROHN's disease, My wife has it and she gets the same aftereffects as you've described.
The problem with doctors is everyone ( including the Doctors themselves) thinks that they know everything, some have a lot of knowledge.

some dont.

maybe because your doc thinks its nothing serious but CROHN's can be fatal if left untreated.

go see someone else mate.

reply to post by SantaClaus


The doctors and hospital where I live are just as bad. Honestly, you risk your life going to them. They wait until you're almost dead and then send you to a specialist. I went in to the e.r. one night with a brown recluse spider bite. I even killed the spider that bit me. They tried to tell me it was empatigo! Idiots!!! My face is still numb and I was bitten about 3 months ago. Mine is not life threatening, but they did manage to kill my dad. How in the hell they missed cancer all through his body is beyond me!!!!! Yes, there are docs and hospitals that bad. Don't waste your time with the idiot doc you're seeing. Get out of town to a real doctor before it's too late.

reply to post by Fat Azn


Maybe it is time for you to check in to home remedy 1 Tabble spoon of Apple cider Vinegar ( NOT Distilled ) Kind
I table spoon of Honey mixed with 8 oz of water 2 times a day !
I do this it seems to help lots !

or Colloidal silver !
I am dending for the machine to make my own to give this a shot see if it works as good as they say!

Originally posted by roobob
reply to post by SantaClaus

 

The doctors and hospital where I live are just as bad. Honestly, you risk your life going to them. They wait until you're almost dead and then send you to a specialist. I went in to the e.r. one night with a brown recluse spider bite. I even killed the spider that bit me. They tried to tell me it was empatigo! Idiots!!! My face is still numb and I was bitten about 3 months ago. Mine is not life threatening, but they did manage to kill my dad. How in the hell they missed cancer all through his body is beyond me!!!!! Yes, there are docs and hospitals that bad. Don't waste your time with the idiot doc you're seeing. Get out of town to a real doctor before it's too late.

click on the first link below for your spider bite.


you must report back so others can be helped...

reply to post by mandrake

That remark about the Asian, German, Jewish thing was totally unnecessary, you really are 22 aren't you.

I already apologized and it was obviously in jest. Don't tell me that I'm not receiving useful advice posting here because the fact of the matter is I am. You obviously lack basic reasoning skill. You have done a great disservice in effectively calling the people who are actually trying to HELP useless. As for your post. Yes, that was entirely pointless. You are over 14 aren't you?
It's pathetic that someone calls me a padeophile on this forum and that I deserve to die and then you attack MY post and call me immature with the amount of s**** Im going through right now. Honestly, do you have nothing to do but represent the cynical child you so are? Ignored. That's my protection against ignorance!

[edit on 27-1-2009 by NativeAmerican]

Well ..

Welcome to the boat, Captain.

I've had bowel problems since puberty, have had 2 colonoscopies, an endoscopy, and was diagnosed with IBS & "Acute Colitis" which i'd imagine is gone now. But ever so often my digestive system will act up too.

Really, the key to results is your diet. It took me years to realize this as I slowly changed my habits along with my diet, how much i ate, and how often i ate. What i ate was MOST important. And now i rarely get a flare up .. but if i eat a bunch of the wrong food I can, you see.

This is what you gotta do, eat less often, space your meals out more, and eat nothing but bland stuff, nothing spicy. overly acidic stuff is bad too, and stuff with too much carbonation will cause cramping. Easy on the sodas.

Originally posted by Scrabbydoo98
If you don't trust a Dr go to a different Dr! Once trust is lost that's it the relationship with that Dr is over. So PLEASE go to someone else. Tell them that you don't trust your current Dr and that you want them to run independent tests.

I had the "best" plastic surgeon in the area debride a wound (cut away dead tissue) without giving me anything for pain. Needless to say i fired him and his assistant and forbade them entry into my hospital room. Nurse told me he was the best between St. Louis and Memphis. I told her I could go to St. Louis or Memphis! LOL

Get the second opinion and if they don't end the symptoms your having get a third or fourth opinion!

This is so very true. When a Dr. opens their doors to see a patient, they are operating a PRACTICE! It sounds as if your physician is even to lazy to practice on you. Go see others until one of them can help you, even if it means you have to travel some distance!

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[edit on 27-1-2009 by Enthralled Fan]

reply to post by Johnmike


This IS NOT my product nor do I have any relations to this product. I saw someone in need and I KNOW that it HEALED Me.

I make no apologies to you for trying to give some helpful advice.

Originally posted by NativeAmerican
Then find yourself unable to move relatively for three weeks, have your family freak out because you forgot that some blood had leaked onto the floor, while having a fever, chills, and being on the toilet spewing up blood from your colon.

Working daily with biohazards (blood, urine, serum), the procedure around here is to mix up 10% Clorox and 90% water solution. The bleach sterilizes on contact and cleans very well. I believe it's safe to reassure your family they're not going to catch anything after cleanup because of the bleach. Interestingly enough, most of our grandma's would probably say the same thing...I guess they knew more science back then than many of us gave them credit for. The only thing you shouldn't use the solution on is metal because it is corrosive over time. In that case you can make a 10% Methanol (rubbing alcohol) and 90% water solution. Most people don't realize this but Febreeze and Lysol are mostly alcohol anyway. Lysol/Clorox wipes are very handy though, no spraying or pouring, just wipe the surface.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
Getting medical advice on ATS is akin to going to your plumber to get your cat neutered.

BWAHAHAHAHA! Okay, it's been a very long time since I'd laughed this hard because of ATS. It's only funny because it's true.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
If you take their advice it might even kill you.

Somebody mentioned allergies, and it is possible to have a very bad reaction if you introduce something into your diet that you're allergic to. Anything that you cannot pronounce likely will have side effects like Chloramphenicol or Cyclophosphamide so if anyone recommends something wacky like this via internet, I know I would not take it.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
Seeing a different MD would be the next logical step. There is no law that you must tell them anything about your experience with the other MD. Then if you get the same results, you may have some soul searching to do.

Whatever you do, make sure you get all advice from licensed people with an MD following their name. Ignore everyone else.

Ultimately yep yep, but we are trying to help based on our experience to drive our friend to the ballpark. Once there, ya gotta meet the coach.

[edit on 27-1-2009 by saint4God]

Originally posted by paxnatus
One more piece of advice, start taking notes. Day,time, who you spoke with, what was said etc. The more detailed the better able a new doc.will be able to follow. Also, it will come in quite handy if you need to pursue something legal in the future.

Beyond that, write down what you eat. If it is caused by an allergy, that list will be instrumental in finding out what it was with your doctor perhaps. Through process of elimination, the nurse and I found out I was allergic to Carnation Instant Breakfast O_o. What specifically I don't know, but haven't had any problems since I dropped it two decades ago.

[edit on 27-1-2009 by saint4God]

reply to post by Fat Azn

He is a piece of #, that will get his in the end when he stands at the gates of heaven to get in.Go see another doctor.

Originally posted by gluetrap
I certainly would be finding a new doctor, even if I had to travel to another town to do so.

As for your diet
I would consider adding either live culture yogurt if you can handle it, or some sort of probiotic supplement to your diet. It wil help rebalance the digestive track and populate it with good bacteria.

White rice has marvelous binding properties and canned or cooked pumpkin is good for the digestive track. It has lots of both fiber and pectin and can help out both ways when it comes to digestive upsets
Soups, oatmeal, toast, other bland foods you might eat after having the stomach flu would be things to try.

Gluten intolerance may be an issue here too, just a thought.

This sounds like good advice to me, I would try it if I were in this situation. Also, papaya has a digestive enzyme called papain that's helpful for properly breaking down foods. I think you can get it dried, in trail mix and tablets (make sure the tablets are all natural - just papaya and sugar).

Papayas offer not only the luscious taste and sunlit color of the tropics, but are rich sources of antioxidant nutrients such as carotenes, vitamin C and flavonoids; the B vitamins, folate and pantothenic acid; and the minerals, potassium and magnesium; and fiber. Together, these nutrients promote the health of the cardiovascular system and also provide protection against colon cancer. In addition, papaya contains the digestive enzyme, papain, which is used like bromelain, a similar enzyme found in pineapple, to treat sports injuries, other causes of trauma, and allergies.

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