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My doctor may in fact be trying to kill me...

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posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by Johnmike
No, House is NOT an accurate presentation of the medical world.



Hehe, I did not mean to imply that it was, only that a doctor's job can be difficult to diagnose problems. The show illustrates well just how complicated it can be. Otherwise yes it's fiction, but even fiction can help a person gain perspective. I have to admit, when they hear they're going to test something like Creatinine levels I cheer because I build those kits
. I often wonder if I'm ultimately going to end up in a hospital lab...not sure if I'm made of tough enough stuff for that kind of pressure though.

[edit on 27-1-2009 by saint4God]




posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 10:19 AM
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Are the fruit on the bottom yogurts acceptable?



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 10:29 AM
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Something i want to add that does help ,me. Goto a local pharmacy and ask for some lactibactolis ( not sure how to spell that) tablets. You do not need a prescription . They are kept there in the fridge.

I can not stomach yogurt and it is a pill of live cultures. It helps a lot.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by NativeAmerican
Are the fruit on the bottom yogurts acceptable?


Whole fruits can be acidic depending on the fruit. Yoplait has it already well mixed into the yogurt...and it tastes better. Dannon mix-em ups are kinda bitter I think.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 10:52 AM
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You really need to see another doctor. I can only tell you of my personal experiences. I am a 32 y/o female. When I was 17 years old, I had a serious problem one night when I thought I had diarrhea, and to my surprise, I filled the toilet with blood. It was a maroon color. I was rushed to the hospital where I stayed for a week before they thought to give me a colonoscopy. A large polyp was found. 3 months later, another large polyp was found. Another 3 months later, another was found, and yes, for a 4th time, my final 3 months later (1 year overall) another was found. They were all too large to have grown in only 3 months. I had several doctors during that year of my life, they were all idiots. They finally called a specialist. He told me they were all there all along, and that the idiot doctors at that hospital just didn't see them. Now that's amazing cause they were so huge they had to be taken out in pieces. (Let that be a lesson that one colonoscopy may not be enough, things can be missed, especially if you didn't clean yourself out enough and especially if the problem is located on the far side of the colon where there are "blind spots".)

Now, at that time I was only 18, and since then I've gone through several doctors and several colonoscopies, and now I'm forever back with the original specialist. I will have to do this the rest of my life and that's ok, because I now know, after trying every doc in town, that I have the best and the only one I can trust.

So what I'm trying to say is, you are responsible for your own health. You can not just stop with one doctor, or two or three if you aren't getting the help you need. No one knows your body better than you. You need to see as many as it takes until you find the one for you.

Now, you could have IBS and it can cause you to have frequent fissures and hemorrhoids. The brighter the blood, the lower the problem. Mine was a maroon color and was high in my colon, getting very close to my small intestines. I also have dealt with black stool, and when that happens, I monitor it closely because I know that it's blood that is coming from higher up. Usually it's the stems left behind that get irritated and bleed. But I've dealt with this now for so long, and have had over a dozen colonoscopies so far and I know what to look for. And the brighter the blood, the lower (and better) it is. You don't want that darker blood. Now, when it's dark it can also be just an ulcer in the stomach, so if the stomach bleeds, it passes though you and can turn black when it comes out. But the worst kind is upper intestinal problems. So no one should just assume until everything has been checked.

Good luck to you and remember you have to take your health into your own hands. I would never trust any doctor for their word unless I am already informed and agree with them. But most experiences I've had, I've gone though 2-3 doctors before I find the right one.

Another thing I've learned, try a new young doctor....sometimes they are very informed in the latest up to date info, and they are very ambitious in their new jobs and eager to out perform their older competitors. One of the best doctors I ever had was really young, and it surprised me how much he was interested in my case and was very willing to spend time with me trying to figure it out.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 11:42 AM
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It's usually bright red. The last bad bleeding though it came out dark red which concerned me. I don't know if that was caused by the stool mixing with the blood though.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 01:10 PM
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i don't think any yogurt with sugar in it (Fruit in the bottom, etc) is acceptable for the purpose intended in this thread. one of the healing purposes of the acidophilus in yogurt is to combat yeast (candida) over population, caused by various things such as the modern diet or antibiotic therapy. the sugar in the yogurt partially or completely cancels out the good that the acidophilus may or may not do in that regard. if you get fruit on the bottom, don't stir the fruit mixture into the yogurt. skim the plain yogurt off the top and eat that.

or skip all that, get the pills or the solid form from a health food store or pharmacy.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 01:28 PM
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Typically, if it's darker, it's higher up. They could have missed something in your colon the first time, you should do it again. Also, it could be something in the upper intestines which can't be detected from a colonoscopy, and then of course, the stomach can cause dark blood and dark stool. With me, bowel problems aren't an issue, it's mostly just blood or pains in my colon. My mom has ibs though, and she has horrible bowel problems. I just grow polyps. So I have to go every few years to have them removed so they don't turn into cancer. My first ones were labeled as precancer....I was very close....but now we just watch it.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by NativeAmerican

I also forgot to mention that during the time things got progressively worse it was late summer and I noticed I was sweating constantly. Actual pool of sweat at my feet sometimes......gross! I also have been getting what I call the "death sensation" which is basically what feels like someone sitting on my chest, it gets worse when going to bed, or a numbing feeling in that region. I don't know if that helps anyone with helping to explain some things.
At any rate I am set up with multiple appointments now with different doctors and in different factions. Thanks all for the help!! Seriously, you guys/gals are great. I also am going to a hospital in the city now if things get worse.


First, what JohnMike says about taking medical advice off ATS is mostly true. We are not doctors, nor are we qualified to diagnose or treat you. Even if some of us are doctors, we cannot look at you to ascertain whether you're pale or flushed, or palpate your abdomen, or do any of the things that a health care practitioner would do almost on instinct in person.

What we can do is listen to you describe your symptoms, share our own experiences, and help you organize your thoughts so that when you see a real doctor (whether it's a doctor of gastroenterology or of accupuncture) you will be able to present yourself and listen to them without being as overwhelmed as you might be otherwise. You will get both good and bad advice on these boards, I can pretty much guarantee that.

If this thread ends up getting moved to BTS for lack of a "conspiracy" angle, don't worry about that. Your user name and password are the same there (belowtopsecret.com) as they are on abovetopsecret.com; it's just that the admin here try to encourage non-conspiracy stuff to go there.

I would encourage you to try to be open-minded on the issue of anxiety. Why? For one thing, having physical symptoms that you're worried about could be causing anxiety, which could in turn cause additional physical symptoms – you get the picture. You end up in a cycle, and it doesn't matter any more what's in your head and what has "organic" causes, because it all has to be addressed.

Whether anxiety is causing you to have GI issues or GI issues are causing you anxiety, or some combination of the two, you deserve to get treatment that will improve your health. If the GI doctor thinks it's all due to anxiety, then he needs to get you a referral to someone who can help you address that. Because recurring rectal bleeding is not an acceptable level of anxiety, and a GI specialist should certainly be aware of that.

I bring this up because of what you said about the feeling of pressure in your chest. In my opinion, you should definitely tell the doctors about that. Pressure in the chest is one of those symptoms that could be nothing important but also could be really serious.

But one thing it could be is anxiety, and I want you to be prepared if they suggest that.

Good luck with all your appointments, and I hope you will be feeling better soon



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 05:41 PM
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To everyone making suggestions regarding diet, very,very, good.but diet changes need to be considered SECONDLY!!

As a nurse I can tell you ANY CONTINUOUS BLEEDING IS A MEDICAL EMERGENCY.

Years ago I had a patient who had been admitted for GI bleeding. He was scheduled for both upper and lower Gi's the following morning. In other words he was to have tests on both the large and small intestines. Around 5pm he rang his call bell. He needed help to the restroom. I responded, helped him in the restroom and explained I would be right out side the door. After a couple of minutes I knocked and he asked for a little more time.A few minutes went by, this time when I knocked there was silence.I Knocked again upon entering and I find my patient sweating, extremely pale, slumped over and non responsive. I immediately called for help. In the speciman 'hat' where we measure output there was 600cc of cranberry colored blood.
Before we could move him to the floor he coded. He was bleeding out.All this from a bleeding ulcer. He spent the next several days in ICU.

Eventually, he made a full recovery, but fear kept him from seeking treatment early. That same fear nearly cost him his life.

To the OP, how much bleeding are you having? Have you had recent blood work?

Remember the bleeding, cramping, change in stool are all symptoms of your body telling you something is not right. Please, please do not stop until you find the answer.

You are in my prayers.

Paxnatus



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 06:34 PM
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You must remember that doctors are human and they make mistakes and a lot of the time, it's educated guess work and test after test. Over the last year, I've been through a bunch of tests myself and I know it sucks.

That being said there are a few things you need to do right away.
1. Go to another doctor for a 2nd opinion.
2. When you goto the doctor, be assertive and explain your situation and don't let them blow it off. If you want additional tests, demand them. At the very least you can say, "look, I have some serious symptoms and these tests will either help find the problem or at least help settle some fears I have. I want these tests so schedule them for me".

Keep in mind that anxiety can cause physical symptoms. Stress can cause ulcers which can lead to bleeding, stomach problems, pain, etc..
That doesn't mean you're faking it or it's all in your head. Either way, you need to go to a doctor and get healthy.

Good luck, my wishes are with you and please tell us how you're doing.



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 08:37 PM
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DEMAND a 2nd opinion.

its your right.

i think

where u at?



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 09:45 PM
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Yeah, it just made it's way into my list of select silly things here. The cake was the pills, the rest were kind of random. House is okay at complex medical problems (though wrong often), but the way it portrays the life of a doctor is downright ridiculous at times.
 



I don't think it was me who said that about medical advice on ATS, for the record.


Now, NativeAmerican, you have to tell us (since you finally answered the blood color bit). Are you going to a gastroenterologist right now?

If you are not, you need to go to one immediately. The "death sensation" can be unrelated, but worries me.

Could you try and be specific about your history with doctors? That is, what kind of doctor you went to first, the ones you're going to now, and the ones you're scheduling appointments with. The kind of doctor will do, but if you don't mind, it would be good to name your doctors. Part to expose who is a bad doctor, and part to let me look up their credentials (med school, residencies, fellowships, etc). You can tell a lot about a doctor from that.

[edit on 27-1-2009 by Johnmike]



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 10:24 PM
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A medication called Methscopolamine Bromide helps A LOT! Trust me. Back when I was in high school I was having some similar symptoms (minus the extreme anal bleed) and taking 5mg of this pill a day slows my system down and keeps it regular unless I drink a lot of beer or am on a really bad diet binge. Check it out and see if you can try it cuz I am right around the same age as you and this stuff works!

You are obviously concerned about this enough to tell people about a bowl problem, and your story kinda hit home. I am not one that would tell people I have the same issue, but looking past that and really understanding where you are coming from, I want to give you some positive feedback on what you can do to help ease this.

So read up on the stuff or see if you can try it.

Relative Five



posted on Jan, 27 2009 @ 11:30 PM
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What are you eating?
Change your diet,,,,,

No more softdrinks, or coffee,,, Fresh Orange juice in the morning. A light breakfast (preferably a cinnamon fruit bar) , a Subway Club sandwich for lunch and grilled chicken with rice for dinner. Mix in a salad with dinner whenever possible. Drink fresh bottled water inbetween.
Repeat until the blood is gone from your stool.
Meanwhile you should also mix in some real good yogurt to build up your digestive tract.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 03:00 AM
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I don't envy your situation and it does sound like there's something genuinely wrong with you.


Originally posted by Fat Azn
I am only 22, it's bull **** that I have to deal with this and miss school because of it and every time I need to schedule an appointment with someone I'm put on at least a month waiting list. My family is Yale grads, we aren't in Africa. I guess this is America's health care system.


Sadly, it's the same in many first world countries around the world now. Because of the ridiculousness of 'human rights' here in the UK, our NHS system is pretty crap because everyone is treated equal - including those that are not legal citizens and who do not pay their taxes to support the health care system.

That means non-Brits can come here and get onto our IVF schemes and get it paid for by the British taxpayer and then bog off back to Craplakistan or wherever. People here awaiting cancer treatment usually have to wait months.

The only way I get around it is to pay for private, which is worth every penny.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 03:24 AM
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Originally posted by Johnmike

I don't think it was me who said that about medical advice on ATS, for the record.



You're right, it was not you. Sorry about that


It was Blaine91555 who said getting medical advice on ATS is like taking your cat to the plumber for neutering.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 04:46 AM
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Go to a gastroenterologist NOW. Even if insurance won't pay for it, borrow and beg to get the money. It sounds like you have ulcerative colitis or Crohn's, but a GOOD doctor needs to diagnose you. If you losing blood at that rate is is dangerous.

I had a neighbor who was 70 y/o. He went to his family doctor complaining of stomach pains and weight loss. The doctor treated the man's stomach for weeks with no results. I told my neighbor to go to a specialist that I used to work for. He had his diagnosis that afternoon-- metastatic liver cancer--- MUCH different than an upset stomach.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 08:13 AM
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Fact of the matter is if your doctor gave you a diagnosis and something else more serious is found, you can sue the pants off that bastard for wrongful diagnosis. Just my two cents get checked again and sue.



posted on Jan, 28 2009 @ 08:30 AM
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dear friend, your loss of blod reflects a mind pattern of "loss of happyness & joy over life" plus the colon ploblem which simbolizes "inhability to process something in your life" this according to the meaning of all ilnesses in relation to our erroneous mind paterns; please for more information on your deffinitive cure go to visit www.expansions.com

hope you get well!

greatings from bolivia in south america!!!

alejandro.



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