TRUE STORY.................
While I was at work, some SOB was in my house taking my stuff. Got home at about 5:15 PM and all house doors were wide open.
Went to the house next door....called 911....cops are on their way, she said.....

35 min later... they drive up. I almost said some smart comment about time but didn't. They never found him or them. Cops did say a Pro was working the area.

The point I'm making is they took their good old sweet time to get my place.
Took the report and left.

see ya

Originally posted by optyk phyba
if some one is breaking into your home you dont shoot them you call the police. your tax dollars pay for them remember ?

Seems our tax dollars are going to bailout the rich bankers if you ask me.

A couple of years ago I was assaulted in my Mom's home by my brothers girlfriend. (the lease had my mom as the lessee and my brother as secondary) I was part way under a desk on my knees unhooking the phone while assisting my Mom in a move to a new place, my brothers girlfriend picked up a chair and hit me in the back and I was not even aware that the woman was in the house. She then threatened to "kick my *butt* as well as my Mom's, who is a disabled senior citizen, if we did not immediately leave "her house". Seems she was confused over the lease being in my Mom's name. (sarcasm)

We called the police, they complained about having to come out telling me this was a "family issue" and they did not want to get involved. Took them 45 minutes to finally show up, and then I was treated like the criminal, my Mom completely ignored and my brothers girlfriend treated with kid gloves. They actually forced my Mom and I to LEAVE my MOMS house supposedly for our safety instead of forcing my brothers girlfriend who was not on the lease to leave. Yep, I trust the police soooooo much.

Come to find out (recently) my brother and his girlfriend were involved in the drug scene in town, and they were being used by the police as informants. They had a choice it seems, snitch and work with the police, or have felony drug charges and go to prison for a very long time. The police did not want to arrest my brothers girlfriend for assaulting me because then she would not be out on the streets snitching for the police.

I guess her assaulting me and threatening my Mom was trumped by her being their nice little snitch.

Now, being that this was my Mom's house, legally she could have shot and killed this woman in self defense. Go figure.

Interesting you should bring up paintball guns. Back in the day, paintball teams used the Nelspot paint pistol, used for marking trees and cattle, because that was all that was available. The local team here was pretty bad, beating Tennessee, Canada, and won the finals against New York. They were always trying to modify the pistols to make them go farther, hit harder, etc. They opened up the gas storage chamber inner diameter, etc., but it always resulted in a ball bobbling in the gun and breaking, throwing just liquid paint out the barrel. After looking at the problem, a modification was done to the physical design of the gas tube. In its original form the gas came out at two holes, set at 90 degree angles to the path of the barrel. A modification to this tube (home manufatured tube required) put these two holes now damn near parallel to the path in the barrel, they ended up being an oblong hole instead of round because they were machined to be 1 deg. off of parallel to the barrel path that they injected the gas into. Smoke blown into the old tube (Thanks, ciggies!) showed almost immediate turbulence as the stream exited the holes, while on the modified the streams came out smooth until ambient air breezes caused wavering turbulence about 2 ft out from the exit holes. This caused the ball to be trapped in the gas stream so it could not hit the inner sides of the barrel, and it was virtually frictionless, like a ping-pong ball floating in a vacuum cleaner air stream. One player fired it over a rifle radar and clocked the paintballs at a little over 800 fps! They took them to game play, and the paintballs fired from these modified guns put saucer-size bruises on those they hit; in fact, one guy got hit in the temple and it flat knocked him out. There was so much bitching by opposing teams that the people who ran the local game took one of the guns apart after testing it and made that particular design of gas tube ILLEGAL for game play.
Don't underestimate a paintball gun. With this tube installed in an old Nelspot, and a marble or right size ball bearing in it, one could theoretically f*** someone up big time, if not permanently. How do I know this? I'm the designer, no brag, just fact. My machinist buddy still has a plaque from the team that they gave us for "HOT GUNS". FYI

Ah, the 80's were so much more fun........

[edit on 28-1-2009 by ibgrimme]

Guns are not dangerous, people are.
If I could count on the police to protect me I wouldn't feel the need to carry a weapon, but police won't protect me instantly when I need it. It's going to be too late. I want to take care of my personal security.

In the UK, you can be shot by a policeman for carrying a table leg in a brown paper bag, a Scotsman has been so shot. this is on record

to tell you the truth guys, criminals over here in Britain have more rights than we do. There's actually been a court case where a criminal broke into a man's home, injured himself upon entry and actually sued the man he was breaking into and won!

There are more laws supporting criminals than the innocent citizen, and those that do support the citizen criminals don't care about anyway. It's very much a lose-lose situation here at the moment, but people have put up with it for so long not having the option of a new election that they don't care, they get on with it and hope for the best.. which never comes.

fox hunting is a nasty little pass time, that elitist masonic scumbags naturally gravitate towards In this happy land of england, where our rights of free assembly have been viciously and sometimes violently oppressed {remember the beanfield] we can at least take comfort in the knowledge that blood thisty sickos are also having their fun stopped

Originally posted by Longy4eva
to tell you the truth guys, criminals over here in Britain have more rights than we do. There's actually been a court case where a criminal broke into a man's home, injured himself upon entry and actually sued the man he was breaking into and won!

I know what you mean. There is very little deterrent for criminals left. In what sort of society do the criminals come before the law-abiding citizens.

Originally posted by crowkey
fox hunting is a nasty little pass time, that elitist masonic scumbags naturally gravitate towards In this happy land of england, where our rights of free assembly have been viciously and sometimes violently oppressed {remember the beanfield] we can at least take comfort in the knowledge that blood thisty sickos are also having their fun stopped

I am becoming sick of people like you on this thread who are simply venting their uneducated prejudice about a sport and people they know nothing about. Have you ever met these "elitist masonic scumbags" as you call them these "blood thirsty sickos". Have you ever tried talking to some even about just normal topics. They are just people you know. Fox hunting is a necessity for farmers and even if it is used as a sport it is still a lot less humane then many other sports that go on in the world these days.

I can see where you are coming from about freedom of assembly but I think you chose a very poor example to prove your point.