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Ruled by Arawn, or much later by Gwynn ap Nudd, it was essentially a world of delights and eternal youth where disease is absent and food is ever-abundant. Annwn was said to lie so far to the west that not even Manawydan ap Llyr had found it, for you could only reach Annwn by dying yourself. It was also said, though, that Annwn could be entered by those still living, if they could find the door.
A NINETEENTH century map in a North Wales town hall could unravel one of Celtic history’s most enduring mysteries – the location of the legendary Land of the Dead.
The map at Llangollen town hall could potentially rewrite the history of one of the world’s greatest hidden landmarks, a Celtic history expert claims.
According to Welsh mythology the Land of the Dead – or Annwn: Celtic Underworld – was ruled over by Gwynn ap Nudd. He escorted the souls of the dead there, and led a pack of supernatural hounds.
For centuries this place has believed to be pure fable.
But, experts say there is a grain of truth in the story from which it developed, with the evidence now pointing to Ruabon and Halkyn Mountains.
You people must not have looked very hard for this legendary place
Originally posted by vonspurter
reply to post by Essan
My research merely points to Ruabon and Halkyn mountains - which is a great expanse of land - how have you managed to narrow the area down to a few acres? What source do you have pointing to that exact location? The actual map was not found until 2007 yet your picture of the supposed area is from 2004?
Not saying your incorrect but would appreciate the sources you had which led you there.
“Why would someone leave their home parish, travel 200 miles over hostile enemy territory to set up an abbey in a marsh? It doesn’t make sense.”
But archaeology and a late 19th century Ordinance Survey map on the wall of Llangollen town hall could help substantiate the North Wales claim to some legends held dear by Glastonbury
HOLOCENE PERIOD: 10000 years ago to the present As the climate warmed and vegetation cover increased, wave upon wave of people spread across Britain - often attracted by the discovery of mineral ores. This influx of people characterised the development of Wales from the Palaeolithic, or Old Stone Age, to the present day, and is reflected in the rich diversity of Wale's culture. Accounts of this age, passed on by the oral tradition and then recorded in written form, we call history. History therefore represents about 0.0002173% of geological time. Knowing when the first miners came to Wales is a difficult question to answer. We know that the ice had largely gone by 10,000 years ago and colonisation was already well underway. People, it seems, have always had a fascination with rocks and minerals and it seems scarcely possible that these early Welsh inhabitants would not have noticed the occasional unusual or colourful stone in their travels. But our modern scientific methods have demonstrated that, by just under 4000 years ago, there was quite an active mining industry in parts of Wales. These early miners were Bronze-Age people, who had migrated slowly N and W up through Europe, exploring for minerals as they went - and in particular for two metals - tin and copper. Tin only occurs in "academic" amounts in Wales, but with copper it is a different story. These people dug for copper at numerous localities from Great Orme in N Wales to Cwmystwyth in Mid-Wales: it seems that wherever there was significant copper mineralisation they had a go. Mining was done by shattering the rock with fire, then breaking and prising it out with heavy stone hammers and picks made from pieces of antler. The remains of such tools and the charcoal from the fires has provided our historians with a way of finding out just how old these early mines are - by Carbon 14 dating. Results are extremely consistent across Wales, implying an incoming wave of people who understood, to a sufficient degree, geology, prospecting, mining and metallurgy, nearly 2000 years before the coming of the Romans.
He got up and put his two feet into the bag. Pwyll turned the bag so that Gwawl was head [over heels] in the bag and quickly closing the bag he tied up the strings in a knot and gave a blast on his horn. At that, his household fell on the court and seized everyone from the host that had come with Gwawl, and took each one prisoner. Pwyll threw off his rags, his old boots and the shabby garment in which he had been clad.
As each one of his host came inside, each one of them would strike a blow to the bag, and ask: 'What is in the bag?', 'A badger,' the others would reply.
They played a game like this: each one striking a blow with his foot and his staff. In such a way they made sport of the bag.
As each one came, he would ask 'What game are you playing there?'
'Badger-in-the-Bag.' would be the reply.
And that was the first time Badger in the Bag was ever played.