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reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 11:15 AM by glan
reply to post by machinegun_go_go



Good for that Guy I think he made the right decision for not driving a bus with a sign stating there is no God. Stand strong for God no matter what other say or think!!!




reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 11:19 AM by Revealation
reply to post by TasteTheMagick

Come on now, you're only making a broad generalization about youth, how is this any different from what you are accusing GamerGal of? It's not. The point of the matter is that this guy is taking things a little too far and I know that if I did that at any job I had that I would be fired.


The decision is solely up to the company. The advertisement isn't necessarily the beliefs of the company but for financial purposes. If they want to fire him I got no gripe but it should be and is only thier choice and shouldn't be pressured by any of us and our beliefs.

As for (what you claim is my generalization of our youth) it is different.Her point is just an opinion while I'm just stating a fact. Are you gonna try to tell me that they aren't becoming more and more desensitized from the brainwashing program our country has in full swing. I Know not all youth are bad but continue to get worse with each passing generation.If this trend continues we wil eventually be a Godless, moraless society.

If you can't see this I suggest you tip up the visor a little and see the world and what's actually going on.

What about kids killing their parents (related to video games). What about all the little morons on youtube committing crimes just so they can post them on youtube.I can go on with plenty of examples and if you need to I'm sure you can research it and find all the FACTS out there for yourself.Hers was a factless generalization and opinion. Mine has supporting facts of the trends of our youth.



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reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 11:32 AM by GamerGal
reply to post by rcwj75



Not out of every thing. Out of government. In America we have this thing called freedom of, and from, religion and a seperation of church and state. You can have a religious display on your front lawn. The government owned building can't. You can hang angles from your house and have bumper stickers or that little fish thing on your car. A government owned vehicle can't.


reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 11:33 AM by StevenDye
reply to post by janon



'Blacks, they're probably less human than us'

Would you expect a black man, or any other race to drive a bus with that slogan?

Why should he have to drive a vehicle with a slogan which disagrees with his very beliefs?

Or how about a bus with a slogan that exclaims 'Paedophiles arn't bad people' ....I know I wouldn't drive any bus that said either of the slogans in my post, or the slogan saying there probably isn't a God.

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reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 11:41 AM by masonwatcher
reply to post by 44soulslayer





Absolutely pathetic. That kind of dualistic attitude is what leads to racism and xenophobia (both ways). You have reached a new low in my eyes masonwatcher...and frankly you weren't that high off to start with.



But it is a pretty good point. Had it been a Muslim bus driver, the baiting would have been ridicules. The man has every right as a Christian not be made to drive a bus with ungodly adverts.

Just for the record, I have never really noticed you so there is no loss in your estimation of me. Anyway keep reading my comments. Thanks.


reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 11:44 AM by GamerGal
reply to post by greshnik



You mean slogans like "God Bless America." and "Jesus died for all of our sins" or "Here little boy want some candy?" in front of the catholic church? Or how about this? www.pyzam.com...


reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 11:48 AM by GamerGal
reply to post by rcwj75



You get some nutcases in every group. But the ACLU usually stands up for churches. One case was a girl wanted to sing Amazing Grace at a talent show and the school said no. ACLU stepped in and made the school reverse its position because the girl was singing a song. The school wasn't playing it over the speakers, or holding a prayer. The girl can do it, the government controlled school couldn't. It's where we get a lot of mix ups going. And for a laugh... www.pyzam.com... Always a good one.


reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 11:51 AM by stumason
Originally posted by greshnik
All I can say is I would NEVER drive a bus like that.

I am 100% sure that atheists would strongly oppose positive messages about God on buses. They would start a revolution to remove them.

Atheists are very, very close to communists. Same mentality, same ruthless ideas...one step from mass murder.


Up to this point, I was just going to let this thread be, but I couldn't stand by and let this tripe go unanswered.

I am an atheist, in a manner of speaking. I think there isn't a God and I find it more probable that humanity was seeded by Aliens.

That said, my 5 year old daughter goes to a Church of England school and attends a Church service every Thursday during school time, as well as daily prayers in the morning and at lunch.

Yesterday on the way back from school, she was telling me about God, the devil, heaven, hell, what happens when you die, Good vs Evil etc.

Now, according to you, I should be spitting feathers, farting lava and calling for a Neo-Crusade against all believers, yet I actually engaged her on the topic in a non-biased way and just asked her all about what she learnt.

I never once said I believed it too be wrong, or told her not to listen to her teachers or Priest. Whatever I think on the subject shouldn't be what she thinks on the subject, I'll let her form her own opinion.

Nor will I march down to the school and demand she be withdrawn from such practices. At the end of the day, it will provide her with a good moral grounding at the very least, regardless whether the stories are true or not.

She will learn in her own good time what to believe and being only 5, she would believe me if I told her I am God. In many way's, I am sure she thinks this anyway (she asked me to stop it raining the other day!!)

As for the topic, I think the bus driver is entitled to his views, however, he is not within his employment rights to refuse to work based upon an advert on the bus. Such buses carry messages from many faiths, does he worry about blasphemy, idolatry or other such nonsense then? What about adverts from the Army, found on almost every bus in the UK (buses children use too!), would he have the same support from you guys if he was a pacifist and refused to do his job?

What about the people made late by that particular bus failing to turn up? What about their rights? Personal freedom only goes so far until you start to affect other people around you, then you have to start drawing boundaries. If he felt so strongly about this advert, his company would have had an HR department to file a grievance with, whereupon they would probably have re-assigned him with minimal fuss to another route which doesn't carry the advert.

In my line of work, I have to look after a network that ensures the National Grid has control over the flow of electricity. I am strongly against coal and oil power stations. Should I refuse to do my job and cause a power station to go offline, or worse, be damaged by my actions? Of course not, becuasde my personal beliefs are just that and any action I took upon them that impacted the lives of others over steps the mark.


reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 11:58 AM by palg1
reply to post by machinegun_go_go



You are wrong!

It is every Christian's responsibility to educate and spread the word of God's love to humanity. To be associated with these athiestic views goes in direct opposition to this responsibility. I applaud the drivers stance. He displayed a courage that is sadly lacking in many of our christian brothers, even putting his employment at risk.

If my employer ever, EVER, asked me to be part of a message that goes against my beliefs I would (and I have) refused.

Thumbs up to him...
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