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Topic started on 16-1-2009 @ 07:54 AM by machinegun_go_go

Man refuses to drive 'No God' bus


news.bbc.co.uk
A Christian bus driver has refused to drive a bus with an atheist slogan proclaiming "There's probably no God".

Ron Heather, from Southampton, Hampshire, responded with "shock" and "horror" at the message and walked out of his shift on Saturday in protest.

First Bus said it would do everything in its power to ensure Mr Heather does not have to drive the buses.

Buses across Britain started displaying atheist messages in an advertising campaign launched earlier this month.
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reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 08:37 AM by Enigma Publius
reply to post by machinegun_go_go



i understand your thinking behind this...i do. But i think you are being to tough on the guy as well. I mean you have to remember: this man's RELIGION, his "Holy word of God" tells him that if he denies God on Earth, then he will be denied his God in Heaven. You can't blame him for the stand he took here. What would it be saying about his character if he was a Christian and he DID drive this bus? That his soul could be bought for a weak paycheck? I'm sorry but the man should not be expected to drive that bus.
And it IS a little different for an athiest.
Look at it logicly:
If an athiest drives a bus that says "Merry Christmas" on the side of it, he is merely driving a bus with some silly bogus religion crap on the side; in his opinion this is bad taste, but it does not endanger his soul, for he has none to speak of, in his own right. It may get on his nerves, but it is not condemning him to Hell. I do not follow the bible, and i would still drive a bus that said "God is love" or anything similar, because to me, this is just a difference of opinion.
But to be fair, to a Christian or Muslum the outcome changes dramaticly. They have a belief in a way that tells them they must not, at any cost, jeopardize this belief, i do not blame this man one bit. I get angry at non religious types like myself who take it too far. I'll go ahead and say it here: Religious and non religious will be the "new racism". People will no longer consider who is black and white, it will in the years to come simply be "believer" and "non believer". Us that do not follow the bible are only at a minor inconvenience to our beliefs to drive a bus for a Christian slogan, but that man would be damning himself in his own eyes to drive it and it's not fair to ask him to do so.
so this IS different for both sides, sometimes what can be said of one side just cannot be applied to the other. Inconvenient, yes. Damning to my immortal soul: NO.



reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 08:47 AM by DataWraith
Originally posted by TheRandom1
Yes, how dare that bus driver ioce his opinion, stand up for what he believes in, or keeps his faith.

Hey I ave a great idea, let's round up all th Christians and kill them, then we can have peace, by killing those who don't believe as you do.

Why don't you think about what you'r saying, what if it were a "Have sex with children" advertisement, or something else that went strongly agianst your beliefs would you protest? You see the thing is, these athiest hate Christians, yes they "claim: that they hate all religions, but that's not true, they have been singling out christianity for forever, they hate us, not because of anything other than for the fact that they just hate theidea that what they do here on earth could effect them for eternity, they don't like that idea of resposibility.

The bus driver had every right to protest, the sign was offensive to him, the company should think twice about putting signs on the side of there bus that may be highly offensive to the majority of people.

Atheists are full of hate, i dont see how they can sleep at night and thispitiful forum here on ATS is there little payground, the mods don't care about these constant attacks on Christian, but boy they sure do show up and say something when it comes to any other religions.

LISTEN YOU MODS, DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ONE SIDED HATE OR LEAVE!

-Lahara


Spoken like a true Believer in God..
Oh by the way Athiests don't always hate, they just don't believe in a God.
Hate is a personal thng.
This isn't about religeous faith being tested, its about a workshy man looking for ANY reason to down tools in this fooked up society of compensation culture, money grabbing , greed driven people and get a bit of airtime voicing his 'opinion' . most people wouldn't care what they were driving and what was written on the side, If this blokes not careful they'll fire him and hire someone who'll be grateful for the job.
Theres too much pussyfooting around politically corrct nonsense these days. Get over yourselves.

I'm a Pagan , my good friend, I see adverts on the buses all the time for 'Christian' get togethers, Mosque gatherings. and other religeous belief's.
I also see adds for credit cards (to get people in debt), adverts for drugs (for junkies and dietry laziness), adverts for penile and breast 'enhancement' (soft porn), Bingo adverts ( encouraging people to gamble and get into debt )
but do I complain?
NO, I just let them get on with it, and continue on my way, my statement is for everyone else to do the same.
On the other hand there are thing I wouldn't want on the side of a bus ( like the have sex with minor's and such like)

Where is the tolerance that 'other' religeons are supposed to preach?
This driver obviously has none for other religeons or beliefs has he?



[edit on 16/1/09 by DataWraith]


reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 08:54 AM by vor78
reply to post by the siren



I agree. I have no issue with anyone of any religion who refuses to work in a situation such as this. I can understand why he would not want to be associated with that message, as it could potentially be seen as his endorsement of it if he did. I know that I wouldn't drive that bus, either.

If I were the guy, I'd just quit. I can't really blame the bus company if they fire him, either, but they should have expected it to offend someone, because it is highly offensive to those with Christian beliefs. I'm sure they've probably lost business because of it as well.
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