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Originally posted by WatchNLearn

I didn't know there was an ATS book - What's in it?

So Indiana Jones is an ATS user after all.

Although sitting outside a Masonic hall with a coffee mug in one's hand is pure

Awesome ATS gear on front of a Masonic Lodge! Perfect as it is one of the 'hot topics' here on ATS.

Ya, calling the cops on a guy for siting on the sidewalk for 'loitering' is COMPLETELY rational isn't it?

I also love how the Mason's on this board are so like fish, throw some bread crumbs and watch them swarm.

The OP is simply showing off his ATS rags and yet the Masons feel the need to defend their society...

Honestly the fervor with which you guys attack anything "out-side looking-in" makes me suspicious of you and yours.

[edit on 16-1-2009 by Animal]

What I dont understand, is if you're going to goto the lodge, why not go inside? Why sit outside and be annoying? Was it like some form of protest?

Great fun!

Good advertising for ATS, too!

As far as people saying it is private property, sheez.........the guy is sitting outside the gate!

Thanks, OP for the chuckle!

Originally posted by Animal
Awesome ATS gear on front of a Masonic Lodge! Perfect as it is one of the 'hot topics' here on ATS.

Ya, calling the cops on a guy for siting on the sidewalk for 'loitering' is COMPLETELY rational isn't it?

I also love how the Mason's on this board are so like fish, throw some bread crumbs and watch them swarm.

The OP is simply showing off his ATS rags and yet the Masons feel the need to defend their society...

Honestly the fervor with which you guys attack anything "out-side looking-in" makes me suspicious of you and yours.

[edit on 16-1-2009 by Animal]

Nice try, but if you read the OP its quite clear he thought he was "standing up against the man" or something. I don't think anyone really cares that he was loitering, but it does look bad for ATS. If someone is so misinformed and believes so much propaganda that they think they are being daring and dangerous by sitting in front of a hall, they certainly are not denying ignorance.

Also, I'd say less than half of the replies pointing out this is ridiculous aren't from masons. The fervor in which people like you assume anyone who speaks the truth and defends masonry IS a mason makes me suspicious of you and yours.

The fact is that books have been written about what the masons and many other organizations are really about. It is no secret that men will try to advance their station by joining other men in a secret brotherhood.

It hearkens to the very same thing as being in a gang. You join for the camaraderie, and also for the protection it affords, and of course to become more powerful as a group and thus enjoy the perks that go along with that power...money.

Originally posted by TH3ON3
The fact is that books have been written about what the masons and many other organizations are really about. It is no secret that men will try to advance their station by joining other men in a secret brotherhood.

It hearkens to the very same thing as being in a gang. You join for the camaraderie, and also for the protection it affords, and of course to become more powerful as a group and thus enjoy the perks that go along with that power...money.

Did you know that anyone can write anything in a book they want? I can write a book that says all ATS users worship Satan. Will you believe me then because its in a book? It is no secret that people want to believe masons are trying to advance themselves, but nothing could be further from the truth.

First off I know far more powerful and influential people outside of freemasonry than masonry itself - if I was interested in "moving up" masonry would be the absolute worst possible path. What am I going to do, move up by kissing up to all these 33rd degree masons who own farms?

Second, not only is there no avenue to advance oneself but even trying is enough to get kicked out permanently Its un-masonic conduct.

And yet again here is another careless accusation thrown out - comparing masons to gangs. It shows a complete lack of knowledge about freemasonry.

[edit on 16-1-2009 by LowLevelMason]

I think your taking all this ATS stuff to seriously..

There's also an Above Top Secret book about UFOs by Timothy Good that is a great read....

The original idea (posing in places related to conspiracies in ATS gear) is a good one I think... I'd almost recommend posting in the board forum about maybe doing it as a monthly contest....hehe..

Dear OP
Wow.. you sir are really living on the edge. I would be so scared to do what you did. Wearing an ATS shirt and brandishing an ATS coffee mug in front of a Masonic Temple. Just the thought of elderly gentleman charging out tho chase you off (probably with Eating utensils still in hand from their intterupted meal).

Actually if you'd have just walked up to the door and knocked they most likely would have showed you around the temple.

Originally posted by TH3ON3
The fact is that books have been written about what the masons and many other organizations are really about. It is no secret that men will try to advance their station by joining other men in a secret brotherhood.

It hearkens to the very same thing as being in a gang. You join for the camaraderie, and also for the protection it affords, and of course to become more powerful as a group and thus enjoy the perks that go along with that power...money.

POWER and MONEY! I'm Jerry McGuire! Show me the money baby! I can't afford to friggin pay attention right now.

But hey, thanks for the belly laugh. I needed that one.

Originally posted by LowLevelMason


Nice try, but if you read the OP its quite clear he thought he was "standing up against the man" or something. I don't think anyone really cares that he was loitering, but it does look bad for ATS. If someone is so misinformed and believes so much propaganda that they think they are being daring and dangerous by sitting in front of a hall, they certainly are not denying ignorance.

Its just an ATS-Fan having some fun. No need to get all worked up about it.