Adolf Hitler, Sisters Taken from Parents' Home, page 10

reply to post by Xenophiles

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Love that "inclusive", "muticultural", "tolerant" attittude you have there! Shame we all can't be as superior as you. The world would be a better place, wouldn't it? That kind of superiority, you might be a prime candidate for "the master race" yourself! The Campbells MIGHT be able to get you an application, if you're nice.

By the way, "nimrod" was a "mighty hunter", and the current usage of "nimrod(s)" is to denote a reasonably successful hunter, derived from that bible phrase. So you have evidence that these folks are successful hunters? Otherwise, the usage makes no sense, unless, of course, you mean to imply that hunters are among those undesirables we're gonna wipe out of our PC country when we get started "cleansing" it.

nenothtu out.

[edit on 15-1-2009 by nenothtu]

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck

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I feel that when the health of a child is seriously threatened by the actions of its legal guardians, whether deliberately or through negligence, the State has the obligation to intercede on the behalf of the child.

And what legislation gives the state the ability to remove a child over a name. Even the agency itself is staing they aren't able to remove a child due to its' name. If you are a proponent of creating legislation to allow this then what names are off limits. Should parents have to consult an approved list of names?

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck

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And I think you'd be surprised at the powers of child welfare agencies.

And what would lead you to that conclusion? I am confused by your statement. Are you indicating that you know of articles that give "child welfare agencies" the ability to remove children because of their name or are you just trying to justify their hypothetically unlawful act. If it’s the former, surprise me. I am very interested in hearing about the powers of child welfare agencies that give them such privileges.

I think you'd be surprised at the powers of law regulating these agencies.

reply to post by cruzion

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Remember where you are. On ATS we generally try not to swallow whole everything we're told.

History says one guy shot JFK.
History says Lincoln was a great guy who freed the slaves because he believed in their right to liberty.
History says there's never been a UFO crash on US soil.
What will history say about the US invasion of Iraq?

History says lots of things we know aren't exactly true; facts are skewed by the opinions of those who won, or those who were left to write them down.

The same kind of thinking that tries to blame George W. Bush for all of America's current ills tries to blame one man (Hitler) for all crimes committed during WWII. He was charismatic and powerful in his time, but he wasn't THAT powerful.

There's a concept called reality, and having a handle on it is quite helpful in getting one through life without embarrassment. The trouble is, reality isn't necessarily what they have told you it is.

you all think nj dyfs is so great,then READ THIS
STARVING CHILDREN IN COLLINGSWOOD

now tell me how great they are. i lived 2 towns away from this when it happened. it was major news in the local area.
please read it ,it will make you see things the way they are in new jersey

these kids were under the care and all seeing eye of dyfs. they were so malnurished,they thought the 19 year old was about 7. they found him in a trash can,rooting for food.
dyfs was trying to arrange another adoption for the family,because they get benefits for the extra child. catchin' on yet?


and by the way,the police chief said he had known thhe parents for 10 years and had never had a complaint about them.so i guess thaat kinda kills the speculation.




[edit on 15-1-2009 by Spectre0o0]

reply to post by Spectre0o0

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I have found it amazing, people have jumped on this bandwagon saying "the parents are racist and teaching their kids to hate". That is an assumption without facts.

The fact that the authorities took the kids without an explaination as to why and what they supposively did against them, after the whole ordeal with the birthday cake and name, says something right there.

It was not until the birthday cake incident made headlines that the child services came in and took the children. Don't you think that is suspious?

Child services has done a terrible job protecting kids, as stated in the above post. There have been many kids that should have been taken away but were not all over the U.S., many of those kids are not alive today.

There is no right or base for a govt. agency to take kids away based on the name given a child!

Which is the only assumption we have right now, due to no charges coming out - yet against what they have done to the children.

They are probably trying to brainwash the kids into saying the parents did something right now - so they don't look like fools and have overstepped their bounds - in namesake.

Originally posted by questioningall
reply to post by Spectre0o0

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I have found it amazing, people have jumped on this bandwagon saying "the parents are racist and teaching their kids to hate". That is an assumption without facts.

No it's really not it's a conclusion based on reasonable observation.
Let's take a closer look.
What are the names of their children?
Adolf Hitler
JoyceLynn Aryan Nation
Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie

And here's some background to the person the child was named after
adolf hitler

One of the foundations of Hitler's social policies was the concept of racial hygiene. It was based on the ideas of Arthur de Gobineau, a French count, eugenics, a pseudo-science that advocated racial purity, and social Darwinism. Applied to human beings, "survival of the fittest" was interpreted as requiring racial purity and killing off "life unworthy of life." The first victims were children with physical and developmental disabilities; those killings occurred in a programme dubbed Action T4. After a public outcry, Hitler made a show of ending this program, but the killings in fact continued

Between 1939 and 1945, the SS, assisted by collaborationist governments and recruits from occupied countries, systematically killed somewhere between 11 and 14 million people, including about six million Jews, in concentration camps, ghettos and mass executions, or through less systematic methods elsewhere. In addition to those gassed to death, many also died as a result of starvation and disease while working as slave labor (sometimes benefiting private German companies). Along with Jews, non-Jewish Poles (over three million), communists or political opponents, members of resistance groups, homosexuals, Roma, the physically handicapped and mentally retarded, Soviet prisoners of war (possibly as many as three million), Jehovah's Witnesses, Adventists and Neopagans, trade unionists, and psychiatric patients were killed. One of the biggest centres of mass-killing was the extermination camp complex of Auschwitz-Birkenau.

In short, hitler was responsible for mass murder, genocide, eugenics programs, slave labor, etc...

And they named their child after him. Are you telling me they've never heard of adolf hitler, found his name in a baby book and said, "wow, that's a neat name!, let's call him that!". ?????


Aryan Nation

Aryan Nations (AN) is a white nationalist neo-Nazi organization founded in the 1970s by Richard Girnt Butler as an arm of the Christian Identity group Church of Jesus Christ-Christian. As of December 2007 there were two main factions that claimed descent from Butler's group. Aryan Nations has been called a "terrorist threat" by the FBI,[1] and the RAND Corporation has called it the "first truly nationwide terrorist network"

And they named a child after a clearly racist, possibly terrorist organization? Should I once again assume they found the name in a baby book?


Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie-Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell is named after a prominent Nazi figure, in her case, the feminine version of Hitler's police commander, Heinrich Himmler.

Heinrich Himmler
Was a Nazi German politician and head of the Schutzstaffel (SS). He was one of the most powerful men in Nazi Germany, competing with Hermann Göring, Martin Bormann and Joseph Goebbels. As Reichsführer-SS he oversaw all police and security forces, including the Gestapo.

As overseer of concentration camps, extermination camps, and Einsatzgruppen (literally: task forces, often used as killing squads), Himmler coordinated the killing of millions of Jews, between 200,000 and 500,000 Roma, many prisoners of war, and possibly another three to four million Poles, communists, or other groups whom the Nazis deemed unworthy to live or simply 'in the way', which included homosexuals and those with physical and mental disabilities. Shortly before the end of the war, he offered to surrender to the Allies if he were spared from prosecution. After being arrested by British forces, he committed suicide before he could be questioned.

Himmler has been named Greatest Mass Murderer of All Time by German news magazine Der Spiegel.

Now why wouldn't any parent be proud to name their child after himmler? What a great guy huh? But once again, maybe a random name in a baby book????
All above sources are from wiki.

The fact that the authorities took the kids without an explaination as to why and what they supposively did against them, after the whole ordeal with the birthday cake and name, says something right there.

A spokeswoman for the state Division of Youth and Family Services, Kate Bernyk, said she would not comment on any specific case, but she said the state would not remove children from a home simply because of their names.

A family court hearing is scheduled for Thursday. Court officials said the matter is sealed and they could not release information about what might be decided at the hearing.

www.usatoday.com...

There is no right or base for a govt. agency to take kids away based on the name given a child!

Your right but we don't know that yet because the information has not been released. According to CPS, that was not the reason.

They are probably trying to brainwash the kids into saying the parents did something right now - so they don't look like fools and have overstepped their bounds - in namesake.

You may be right. Now here's the bad part. If they return the children to the parents, the parents themselves will brainwash the children to believe the CRAP they believe.
It's a lose/lose situation.


[edit on 16-1-2009 by jfj123]

reply to post by jfj123

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Again lets try to wrap this up so people can understand. Three children are named after NAZIs by their NAZI parents. CPS came and took the kids, but NOT because of their names. They can't say why because it is against the law too release such information. People have jumped to the conclusion that it was because of the names, but then say there is nothing wrong with the names. If you don't think there is any thing wrong with the names then why would you jump to the conclusion that they were taken because of their names?

Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by jfj123

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Again lets try to wrap this up so people can understand. Three children are named after NAZIs by their NAZI parents. CPS came and took the kids, but NOT because of their names. They can't say why because it is against the law too release such information. People have jumped to the conclusion that it was because of the names, but then say there is nothing wrong with the names. If you don't think there is any thing wrong with the names then why would you jump to the conclusion that they were taken because of their names?

I don't think that we are all saying there is nothing wrong with the names exactly, but what some of us, including myself have stated is that, they have the right to name the kids these names if they wish to. Do you see the difference?

I don't have to agree with what they have done, to defend their right to do so. I personally would not name a kid apple either, but I would stand up for someones right to do so. See there is a difference. In a democratic country these people have this right, wither we like it or not.

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