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Originally posted by Heike Most of you don't know a darn thing more about Hitler, the Nazi party, or what REALLY happened than what they taught you in grade school. Maybe the people who named their kid Adolf Hitler bothered to look past the monster and see the man. Or not, they might just be igorant white trash acting stupid .. but the point is without some more facts and a bit more investigation, YOU DON'T KNOW which it is. ...
Great job denying ignorance.
I feel that when the health of a child is seriously threatened by the actions of its legal guardians, whether deliberately or through negligence, the State has the obligation to intercede on the behalf of the child.
Originally posted by harvib
And what legislation gives the state the ability to remove a child over a name. Should parents have to consult an approved list of names?
Originally posted by GamerGal
Just for every one too catch up. The CPS took the kids away but didn't give a reason. Most likely due to the law about disclosing things. Second, even if they only they took the kids away was because the parents were training them too attack a Jewish temple and kill as many as possible it was the right call. You can't let people teach their children that if they're driving along and see a Jew on the sidewalk it is their duty too drive on the sidewalk and run the person over.
And I think you'd be surprised at the powers of child welfare agencies.
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that these folks gave their children these names based upon their committal to the White Supremacist
And you can cite "Deny Ignorance" 'til the cows come home, but I have better things to do with my life than engage in a debate on the subject of whether or not Hitler was just misunderstood. And excuse me, but so should you.
... and your assumptions are based on negative propaganda about the man, the party, and the ideology.
Originally posted by DrumsRfun
In the land of the free eh??
This is just an example of how free Americans are.
Freedom of speech???
Land of the free???
As nuts as it may be to name a kid adolph hitler,its even more nuts telling people what they should do and what to name their kids.
[edit on 14-1-2009 by DrumsRfun]
Originally posted by Heike
Originally posted by nenothtu
I think gamergal may be onto something here. If we just clean out all these "undesirables" from our cute little country, all us decent folk can get on with the business of living in peace!
The really amusing thing about this, although it may have been unintentional, is that this is exactly how the "Nazi" party started in the first place! They were patriots who wanted to save a country that they perceived as being overrun and undermined by foreigners.
Originally posted by questioningall
reply to post by Spectre0o0
I have found it amazing, people have jumped on this bandwagon saying "the parents are racist and teaching their kids to hate". That is an assumption without facts.
One of the foundations of Hitler's social policies was the concept of racial hygiene. It was based on the ideas of Arthur de Gobineau, a French count, eugenics, a pseudo-science that advocated racial purity, and social Darwinism. Applied to human beings, "survival of the fittest" was interpreted as requiring racial purity and killing off "life unworthy of life." The first victims were children with physical and developmental disabilities; those killings occurred in a programme dubbed Action T4. After a public outcry, Hitler made a show of ending this program, but the killings in fact continued
Between 1939 and 1945, the SS, assisted by collaborationist governments and recruits from occupied countries, systematically killed somewhere between 11 and 14 million people, including about six million Jews, in concentration camps, ghettos and mass executions, or through less systematic methods elsewhere. In addition to those gassed to death, many also died as a result of starvation and disease while working as slave labor (sometimes benefiting private German companies). Along with Jews, non-Jewish Poles (over three million), communists or political opponents, members of resistance groups, homosexuals, Roma, the physically handicapped and mentally retarded, Soviet prisoners of war (possibly as many as three million), Jehovah's Witnesses, Adventists and Neopagans, trade unionists, and psychiatric patients were killed. One of the biggest centres of mass-killing was the extermination camp complex of Auschwitz-Birkenau.
Aryan Nations (AN) is a white nationalist neo-Nazi organization founded in the 1970s by Richard Girnt Butler as an arm of the Christian Identity group Church of Jesus Christ-Christian. As of December 2007 there were two main factions that claimed descent from Butler's group. Aryan Nations has been called a "terrorist threat" by the FBI, and the RAND Corporation has called it the "first truly nationwide terrorist network"
Was a Nazi German politician and head of the Schutzstaffel (SS). He was one of the most powerful men in Nazi Germany, competing with Hermann Göring, Martin Bormann and Joseph Goebbels. As Reichsführer-SS he oversaw all police and security forces, including the Gestapo.
As overseer of concentration camps, extermination camps, and Einsatzgruppen (literally: task forces, often used as killing squads), Himmler coordinated the killing of millions of Jews, between 200,000 and 500,000 Roma, many prisoners of war, and possibly another three to four million Poles, communists, or other groups whom the Nazis deemed unworthy to live or simply 'in the way', which included homosexuals and those with physical and mental disabilities. Shortly before the end of the war, he offered to surrender to the Allies if he were spared from prosecution. After being arrested by British forces, he committed suicide before he could be questioned.
Himmler has been named Greatest Mass Murderer of All Time by German news magazine Der Spiegel.
The fact that the authorities took the kids without an explaination as to why and what they supposively did against them, after the whole ordeal with the birthday cake and name, says something right there.
A spokeswoman for the state Division of Youth and Family Services, Kate Bernyk, said she would not comment on any specific case, but she said the state would not remove children from a home simply because of their names.
A family court hearing is scheduled for Thursday. Court officials said the matter is sealed and they could not release information about what might be decided at the hearing.
There is no right or base for a govt. agency to take kids away based on the name given a child!
They are probably trying to brainwash the kids into saying the parents did something right now - so they don't look like fools and have overstepped their bounds - in namesake.
Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by jfj123
Again lets try to wrap this up so people can understand. Three children are named after NAZIs by their NAZI parents. CPS came and took the kids, but NOT because of their names. They can't say why because it is against the law too release such information. People have jumped to the conclusion that it was because of the names, but then say there is nothing wrong with the names. If you don't think there is any thing wrong with the names then why would you jump to the conclusion that they were taken because of their names?