seriously people... given the names of his 1 yr old sister, you know what these "parents" believe. I would say that teaching your child to intentionally hate could be looked upon as a form of abuse. They are not publicly telling why the children were removed, but it was not the names that did it. Please those two genetic mis-fires were on welfare, and when you are on welfare the state is all up in your biz. They obviously had good reason to remove them. I am glad they did, and hope those two don't get those kids back. They are better off.

Heard the following on NBC10 News...

The complaint was originally made by a phone call received by NJ DYFS regarding the children's welfare. The agency then sent out an investigation unit who removed them based on the "credible" complaint.

Those Later Day Saints that raped 14 year old girls? Had uncles married too multiple nieces? The leader had been convicted of several counts of rape in other states, yeah, no reason to stop that... Anyways, now we know that a complaint had been called in and an investigation started.

Originally posted by GamerGal
Those Later Day Saints that raped 14 year old girls? Had uncles married too multiple nieces? The leader had been convicted of several counts of rape in other states, yeah, no reason to stop that... Anyways, now we know that a complaint had been called in and an investigation started.

Oh wait, you mean the rapes of 14 year old girls and marrying neces that turned out to be bogus as hell? yeah those latter day saints. They might be weird, but there is no law against weird. Seems like the government wanted to get inside that place and take a look at the property.

Originally posted by GamerGal
Those Later Day Saints that raped 14 year old girls? Had uncles married too multiple nieces? The leader had been convicted of several counts of rape in other states, yeah, no reason to stop that... Anyways, now we know that a complaint had been called in and an investigation started.

But it's ok because it's their belief (immense sarcasm).

and from what I understand CPS must investigate every call and if the complaint states that the children are in immediate danger, they must take them, then investigate it's legitimacy.

What if someone filed a complaint about there names?................................

Ok so the short story is this...
these parents as a homage to nazi ideology named their children.

DCFS won't provide any explanation for the abduction.

We are left to assume it has to do with the names.

If this is the case, then it looks like the Campbell's are in a position to take the government to court for kidnapping.

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck


The obvious point has been made by Jackinthebox...why were they allowed to register those names in the first place?.

Excuse me? What did you say?
Two major things wrong with your statement...

1. Allowed?
Regardless of what all the America bashers believe, there is no "allow" in regarding this in America.
You can name your child anything you want.

2. Register?
We do not "register" people in the sense that someone checks all the nicities and puts a stamp on the birth cerificate and off you go.

There isn't a qualifcation for a birth certificate
(except for the obvious.. citizen and.. BIRTH)
You don't "pass" and you don't "qualify".
A birth certificate is just a record of birth.

But of course this is ATS and before any details come out, we ll just jump on the "America Sucks" and "Government is evil" bandwagon. What a fun ride it is until page 6 'eh people?


On to the bigger point, if children were taken away because of their "name" then there will be hell to pay...

I hate to continually beat a drum, but all of you out there in "America Sucks" land... Yea.. we're still the land of the free so don't bother filing this one away in your catalog as an example of whatever grievance you have.

In America, the government cannot :
1. Prevent someone from naming a child whatever you want.
2. Take a child away without cause.

This was most likley due to something else... yes, it could have been drummed up charges because some over zealous windbag didn't like the names but it will get sorted out in court if it has to go that far.

If it was real abuse, the names are just sensational hype.
If it wasn't real abuse this is just a lawsuit waiting to happen.


Can't you guys wait for facts before you whine?

Originally posted by gormly

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
The obvious point has been made by Jackinthebox...why were they allowed to register those names in the first place?.

Excuse me? What did you say?
Two major things wrong with your statement...
1. Allowed?
Regardless of what all the America bashers believe, there is no "allow" in regarding this in America.
You can name your child anything you want.

But you can't abuse kids, and where there's smoke, there may well be fire so if nothing else, it's worthy of attention.

2. Register? We do not "register" people in the sense that someone checks all the nicities and puts a stamp on the birth cerificate and off you go.

I donno...I still have my 'registration of birth' card, as well as my birth certificate...who knows what they call it in NJ.

But of course this is ATS and before any details come out, we ll just jump on the "America Sucks" and "Government is evil" bandwagon. What a fun ride it is until page 6 'eh people?

Not sure how that factors in to what I said, but hey...if it makes sense to you, go with it.

If it was real abuse, the names are just sensational hype.
If it wasn't real abuse this is just a lawsuit waiting to happen.

Maybe...but I wouldn't put money on the outcome of that lawsuit just yet.

Can't you guys wait for facts before you whine?

Seems like a pretty good discussion going on here with worthy points being made on both sides of the issue. Only whining I'm hearing is...well, never mind.

"Acceptable"?
Who is doing the accepting?
Who has any right to decide what is acdeptable.
Some of you seem to be in that catagory of "busy body".

Just exactly how do these people come into anyone's home and make such demands as, "examining", let alone removing?
Do they come in armed?
With a policeman?
Or what?
What if you refused to let them into your house?
What if you refused to let them near your children?
What if you bodily interfered with their efforts to take the kids?

Maybe too many people are just naive.
When they perceive anyone as an "authority" they just give in.

I was investigated once because my boys had open toed shoes.
They crawled on the floor a lot and wore the ends of the toes off.
I couldn't afford to just go buy new shoes every couple of weeks, so they went to school that way.
One of the teachers got concerned that their feet would get wet on the wet grass.

My Grandfather on my Mothers side was in the Royal Navy, he was a submariner. My Grandfather on my Fathers side was at the D-Day landings ... Neither of them went to war, killed men , and saw friends die, so that some utter scumbags could belittle that sacrifice by honouring a puss gutted venomous coward like Hitler by naming a child after him. Now dont get me wrong , Im not against free speech. You should be able to protest against the inadequacies you see around you , without worrying about being oppressed. But that all comes to a grinding halt in the face of Nazi and Hitler worshipers. There ARE some things which cannot ever be allowed to rise... The Black Death, and Nazis, in ANY form are the big two at the top of the list.

I bet if the children were named Josef Stalin Campbell or Robert Mugabe Campbell or Nelson Mandela Campbell, maybe even Chairman Mao Campbell, CPS wouldn't have taken them!

Sounds like someone has to much time on their hands. I'm sure some story was made up but I know for a fact that an anonymous tip isn't grounds for taking the children. A judge shouldn't even issued a warrant with that like kind of tip. CPS likes to bend the law and you have to be knowledgable of the law to fight these people. If this is a false report someone is going to have alot of trouble. From the article the sheriff never received any complaints so from what I read. Besides this isn't the first time CPS has messed up. Look at the story with the kid that has been missing for 10 years. 10 fricken years! Check CNN video for boy missing for 10 years. People who abuse the system put children who are in serious need of help in danger because it takes their away because they're busy chasing false reports down. In my opinion, CPS should be disbanned, they've dropped the ball one too many times and they're not following the law. Law Enforcement is more equiped to handle these situations. CPS is a waste of my tax dollars. I'm not saying all are bad but lately the bad ones out number the good and it's time for these people to be held accountable.