Post UFO Disclosure ideas in the "Citizen's Briefing Book" to Barack Obama on change.gov!!!, page 15

Originally posted by converge

Originally posted by RFBurns
Any line item in the law, which leaves a loophole, the DOD or even NSA and CIA can throw whatever they see fit into that loophole.
And if they feel that the president is in the catagory of one that doesnt need to know, he wont know or have any access.

Do you have any evidence of this? Is it specified in any legislation that the President might not be given access to these Programs?

Simply search for what Carter and Reagan tried to do during thier terms in office in trying to get access to the UFO issue and find out exactly why they were denied.

Originally posted by converge
I don't doubt if a group exists without the Government that is keeping this information secret that they keep Presidents out of the loop, but one thing is what is done unofficially and the other one is what is official policy and law.

And what I argued in my post is that I don't believe they have the legality to deny the President that information.

Your missing it all together here. They are "outside" of law. Meaning that they are able to withold anything and everything they see fit from any congressman/woman, president and his staff, anyone. And since they are unacknowledged and unaccounted for, there isnt any way to track what they have done or will do. They are given a yearly budget, and thats all congress even sees. To you and me and every joe public out here, it is against the law. But to them, there is no law being violated because they are given immunity to law.

Obviously Obama knows about congress budgeting billions every year to these unaccounted for black op projects. So he knows that as a former senator, and now president elect, he cant just sign some order and expect them to bow just because his name is Obama and is the new president.

Originally posted by converge
If they do, it is illegal, and if Obama or any other President that really wanted to know about it, and reveal to the people that he was denied access, I assure you that something would happen.

What would the people do if they found out that their representative, the Commander in Chief, the President was being denied access?

It isnt illegal because what they do is outside of the law, it is outside of constitutional law and the processes set down by it. They do not answer to what you and I know as the law. They do not answer to congress or the president. They are literally above and byond constitutional law.

All anyone has to do is simply research what Carter and Reagan tried to do during their terms. They were denied access. Now these two incidents were well known, and have been known for years. Why hasnt anything been done about it? Simple, because the people have not demanded anything be done about it. So congress focuses on other things like bailouts and their annual automatic pay raises while we sit here with our heads in the sand thinking everything is peachy hunky dorey and they will take care of us.

Wrong.

The government has become so compartmentalized that the cubicle to the right has no idea what the cubicle to the left is doing, much less whats happening down the hall. That is the problem. That is what needs to be corrected and changed. All of this began over 50 years ago and even Eisenhower tried to warn people about it...but did they listen to him?

Obviously not.

The black ops are outside of the democratic processes, as is part of the military industrial complex that is invovled with those black op projects and their contractors. That needs to be changed and changed quickly.

Once those barriers are removed and accountability is enacted and these black op projects are monitored and controlled by congress, which is where it should be anyway, then that brings it back into the realm of constitutional law and its checks and balances, which at that point, also brings it into the realm of an Executive Order.

The ironic thing about it all, is that during Carter's term, the head of the CIA was GWH Bush. GWH Bush denied Carter's Executive Order, stating that he must go through congress to access the information. Well that was quite handy since Bush already knew that congress is unable to access it as well. Basically Bush gave Carter the run around.

Then in Reagan's era, GWH Bush was vice president, which allowed even more ability to isolate the black op projects and information.

And over the last administration, who was vice president? Dick Cheney. And that guy no doubt has done even more to surpress and isolate the black op projects and contractors.

Its going to be a long way to the top for rock n roll, but if this is done right, and we get a huge mass of people behind it, not 2000 or even 20,000, but 200,000 and more, then there is clout to get the attention of congress to get them to hold public forum hearings and inqueries. They already know about the regular annual budget allocated to the black op projects, what they dont know is how, when, on what, by whom, it is spent.

Once the door is open and the public continues to keep pressure on its elected representatives in congress, congress will do the right thing and then, the president can make his move.

Hopefully that will be the case.

Cheers!!!!

[edit on 17-1-2009 by RFBurns]