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Originally posted by breakingdradles
reply to post by crmanager
You still did not defend your stance, and yes, I love Jews and hate israel. No god wants you to take and hold land by force, even if you claim it is in his name as no god I've studdied wanted you to oppress people, even if you yourself were oppressed. Is your god different?
If a muslim came to your door and said they had a book, and in this book, this land was promised to them by allah, would you oblige?
Just because you believe it's true, doesn't mean what someone else believes is wrong. However, to force your beliefs upon someone else, IS WRONG!!
Do you see the Native Americans as terrorists as they fought for their land?
I have answered your questions, answer mine.
[edit on 8-1-2009 by breakingdradles]
Originally posted by YeshuaWarrior
reply to post by breakingdradles
God has not taken his hand off the Jewish people or the Jewish Nation. Read the bible, its very clear. I support Israel and its people. We have the same God. I consider the Jews my brothers and sisters just as I do Christians. To turn your back on Israel is to turn your back on God, His word makes this very clear. ALL the end time prophetic words are spoken about Israel and specifically Jerusalem. Reading the newspaper headlines is like reading God's prophetic word.
Originally posted by YeshuaWarrior
reply to post by 04326
Good Question. Yehweh is the one true God. Muslems believe in Allah, just another form of Satan, just like Baal or Molech. Muslems believe that Jesus was a prophet, but they refuse to call him Messiah. Muhammad is nothing more than a Jim Jones leading people to eternal damnation.
Originally posted by Dontmakemebethe1
I don't know much about the history between these two nations...(Gaza...Israel) but going back for the past few years...it doesn't seem that Israel has been attacking anyone, but that they have been under fire for a great while and I never understood why the heck they didn't fire back b/c I heard they had all this power.
Why shouldn't they defend themselves? I always wondered, if they really have so much muscle, why aren't they using it? And America keeps telling them not to "fight back".
That is crap! I think they should use all the firepower and whatever they are supposed to have at their disposal and wipe those people out!
I can't understand why people don't see that. Even if Israel isn't the favorite of all the people on this board or elsewhere...they have the right to defend themselves.
Originally posted by 04326
Originally posted by Dontmakemebethe1
I don't know much about the history between these two nations...(Gaza...Israel) but going back for the past few years...it doesn't seem that Israel has been attacking anyone, but that they have been under fire for a great while and I never understood why the heck they didn't fire back b/c I heard they had all this power.
Why shouldn't they defend themselves? I always wondered, if they really have so much muscle, why aren't they using it? And America keeps telling them not to "fight back".
That is crap! I think they should use all the firepower and whatever they are supposed to have at their disposal and wipe those people out!
I can't understand why people don't see that. Even if Israel isn't the favorite of all the people on this board or elsewhere...they have the right to defend themselves.
Huh????
So Israel has not been attacking anyone - so how far back are we going? one year, two year, three - 10??
[edit on 8/1/09 by 04326]
Originally posted by crmanager
Are you really that uniformed?
In 1919 The League of Nations were debating weather to give the jews the area knows as Uganda, an Islan in the South Pacific or the area know as Palestine.
I am sure you would have no problem with UN madated land theft.
If a Muslim came to my door with a book...yadda yadda... I would shoot or sue, which ever got him away quicker.
Every nation on Earth has said the God intended them to live there. Why is this one bad? Is it the smell of Matzoh?
And as for the "Native Americans" which everyone else calls indians, they were screwed royally. I am all for helping them. I just won't give Denver back to them.
Originally posted by Question
reply to post by marg6043
You bring up a good point, which makes me bring up this point. What exactly is the deal? Why do people defend them despite evidence presented? Is it because people still feel bad about the holocaust and they feel they should treat the israelis with kid gloves? Or is it out of some false religiously motivated feeling that, because they are "The chosen people" then that means that if you support them, then you're a shoe in to get into the pearly gates?
Originally posted by FearSoul
Its apparent that you people don't care about Hamas firing the first rockets into israel. If the drug cartels in mexico started to fire rockets at LA or some other city in america. all of you would want the government to do something about it too. So what is israel suppose to do? Beg hamas to stop firing rockets??If you support hamas firing rocket at israel then in my eyes you are no better then Hitler.
Originally posted by YeshuaWarrior
reply to post by 04326
Good Question. Yehweh is the one true God. Muslems believe in Allah, just another form of Satan, just like Baal or Molech. Muslems believe that Jesus was a prophet, but they refuse to call him Messiah. Muhammad is nothing more than a Jim Jones leading people to eternal damnation.
Originally posted by breakingdradles
Originally posted by crmanager
Are you really that uniformed?
In 1919 The League of Nations were debating weather to give the jews the area knows as Uganda, an Islan in the South Pacific or the area know as Palestine.
I am sure you would have no problem with UN madated land theft.
If a Muslim came to my door with a book...yadda yadda... I would shoot or sue, which ever got him away quicker.
Every nation on Earth has said the God intended them to live there. Why is this one bad? Is it the smell of Matzoh?
And as for the "Native Americans" which everyone else calls indians, they were screwed royally. I am all for helping them. I just won't give Denver back to them.
As I have stated time and time again, I'm fine with the portions of land they were given by the united nations AND the Arabs who lived there. What I and the UN are not fine with, is the land that has been taken since then, by force.
If you would "shoot or sue" a muslim who tried to take your home, why would an Arab do anything differently if a Jew came and wanted their home?
And the Denver comment just shows that you are the type to use humor to get out of a situation in which you are over your head. I'm going to give you an out on this one and just agree to disagree, lets see if you can save face and do the same
Originally posted by crmanager
reply to post by budski
5,000 rockets have been fired into Israel since 2005. If If 5,000 rockets were fired into your nation what would your response be? "Let's be kind to the people doing the shooting!"
Originally posted by crmanager
Originally posted by breakingdradles
Originally posted by crmanager
Are you really that uniformed?
In 1919 The League of Nations were debating weather to give the jews the area knows as Uganda, an Islan in the South Pacific or the area know as Palestine.
I am sure you would have no problem with UN madated land theft.
If a Muslim came to my door with a book...yadda yadda... I would shoot or sue, which ever got him away quicker.
Every nation on Earth has said the God intended them to live there. Why is this one bad? Is it the smell of Matzoh?
And as for the "Native Americans" which everyone else calls indians, they were screwed royally. I am all for helping them. I just won't give Denver back to them.
As I have stated time and time again, I'm fine with the portions of land they were given by the united nations AND the Arabs who lived there. What I and the UN are not fine with, is the land that has been taken since then, by force.
If you would "shoot or sue" a muslim who tried to take your home, why would an Arab do anything differently if a Jew came and wanted their home?
And the Denver comment just shows that you are the type to use humor to get out of a situation in which you are over your head. I'm going to give you an out on this one and just agree to disagree, lets see if you can save face and do the same
I love when a person says "I am winning the argument so I will take it easy on you.
READ. Israel took the West Bank because Syria was lobbing shells at them. Oh wait, just like NOW!!
They gave back the Sinai. They gave back Gaza. SO what is your problem?
I will tell you. You don't like JEWS!