reply to post by phinubian
the truth is that they never kept to the ceasfire conditions. they never allowed the humanitarian aid inside the Gaza on the conditions promised. they
were all the time shooting the tunnels through which the Palestinians were transporting the food inside of area from Egypt.
this was all made on purpose. the one reason which comes to me as first is that after the starting the strikes on Gaza, Barak's popularity rose the
way up. he was going surely to loose his chair in coming elections. and now it looks that he is going to keep it. nice and easy
Israeli tank column enters Gaza: witness, page 4
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 01:46 PM by NovusOrdoMundi
reply to post by MikeboydUS
The Nazis re-established Germany as a power in Europe after World War I and all of the penalties they had to pay.
Who decides what democratically elected governments are "right"?
The Nazis re-established Germany as a power in Europe after World War I and all of the penalties they had to pay.
Who decides what democratically elected governments are "right"?
reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 01:46 PM by MCoG1980
UK Comedian Paul Kaye shares his views asfter recently staying in Israel with his family, video is at the bottom of the article:
news.bbc.co.uk...
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news.bbc.co.uk...
[edit on 3-1-2009 by MCoG1980]
reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 01:56 PM by NovusOrdoMundi
reply to post by theindependentjournal
Iran is not Arab. Iran is Persian.
Syria supports Hamas. Hezbollah provides training and financial support to Hamas.
Israel struggled with Hezbollah in their 34 Day War. Israel struggles with Hamas daily. Any combined effort by Syria, Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas would ultimately defeat Israel, so long as the United States does not get involved.
It doesn't matter what Arab states do and don't support Hamas because none of them will attack Syria, Iran, Hezbollah, or Hamas in support of Israel.
Iran is not Arab. Iran is Persian.
Syria supports Hamas. Hezbollah provides training and financial support to Hamas.
Israel struggled with Hezbollah in their 34 Day War. Israel struggles with Hamas daily. Any combined effort by Syria, Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas would ultimately defeat Israel, so long as the United States does not get involved.
It doesn't matter what Arab states do and don't support Hamas because none of them will attack Syria, Iran, Hezbollah, or Hamas in support of Israel.
reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 02:01 PM by MikeboydUS
Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
reply to post by MikeboydUS
The Nazis re-established Germany as a power in Europe after World War I and all of the penalties they had to pay.
Who decides what democratically elected governments are "right"?
After the Nazis went into Poland the Allies decided they weren't right.
Bluntly, I would say whoever wins decides who was right. At least that's how history works.
reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 02:02 PM by Mdv2
Update: 'We have many, many targets'
The Associated Press reports:
Israeli tanks and infantry entered Gaza after nightfall Saturday, launching a ground offensive that the military said would be a "lengthy operation" in a widening war on Gaza's Hamas rulers.
Heavy gun battles were reported as Israeli tanks and infantry soldiers entered Gaza after dark. The forces stayed close to the border area, witnesses said. Heavy artillery fire hit east of Gaza City in areas where Hamas fighters were deployed.
"We have many, many targets," Israeli military spokeswoman Maj. Avital Leibovich told CNN, adding that Hamas has been digging smuggling tunnels and other facilities. "To my estimation, it will be a lengthy operation," she said.
She said the goal of the operation was to take over the areas used by militants to launch rockets against Israel.
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This is gonna be very bloody.
reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 02:03 PM by vor78
reply to post by whatukno
I think its very, very unlikely that this will escalate to the use of nuclear weapons, anyway. I'm simply telling the previous poster that in the unlikely event that it happened, there's a pretty good chance that WW3 would result from it.
I sympathize very mildly with the Israelis, but the truth is, I think both sides deseve plenty of blame for everything that has happened over the years. If these idiots want so badly to kill each other, then I say let them. That's terrible to say, yes, but the only way I think that either side is ever going to learn is for both to suffer the consequences of their actions over all these years.
I think its very, very unlikely that this will escalate to the use of nuclear weapons, anyway. I'm simply telling the previous poster that in the unlikely event that it happened, there's a pretty good chance that WW3 would result from it.
I sympathize very mildly with the Israelis, but the truth is, I think both sides deseve plenty of blame for everything that has happened over the years. If these idiots want so badly to kill each other, then I say let them. That's terrible to say, yes, but the only way I think that either side is ever going to learn is for both to suffer the consequences of their actions over all these years.
reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 02:05 PM by MikeboydUS
reply to post by NovusOrdoMundi
If Iran and Syria get involved, we will get involved and probably with a coalition of some sort. Even if Hezbollah gets involved we will offer intelligence and logistical support.
If Iran and Syria get involved, we will get involved and probably with a coalition of some sort. Even if Hezbollah gets involved we will offer intelligence and logistical support.
reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 02:20 PM by MasterRegal
Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
reply to post by Raustin
You don't have to a pick a side, just look at the evidence for the breaking of the ceasefire which had been holding and the side picks itself. Israel was uninterested in keeping the ceasefire intact, they wish to force Hamas to accept a new ceasefire with better terms for Israel.
Israel extended a hand to Hamas to extend the truce/ceasefire. It was Hamas who rejected it and decided to begin launching rockets into Israel. Israel decided to respond to these attacks with an attack of their own. Has it been disproportional? Yes.
reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 02:27 PM by Mdv2
IRAN: Hamas has secret anti-Israel weapon in Gaza, cleric says
Hamas possesses a “new weapon” to face Israeli armor in case Israel decides upon a ground invasion into the Gaza Strip, a senior Iranian official and ranking cleric told worshippers in Tehran today.
According to former Iranian president Ayatollah Hashemi Rafsanjani, chairman of Iran's powerful Expediency Council, the advanced weapon would allow the Palestinian militant group to target Israeli tanks “from a long distance.”
Rafsanjani's statement is highly provocative, in tune with a heated Iranian campaign of rhetoric against Israel's Gaza offensive.
It also suggests that Hamas may have stored up the same advanced, portable high-tech anti-tank weapons Hezbollah used to disable Israel's Merkava tanks during the 2006 war between the Shiite militant group and the Jewish State.
U.S. and Israeli officials accuse Iran of providing weapons to Hamas in Gaza, which has been pummeled by six days of Israeli air strikes.
In his Friday prayer sermon, Rafsanjani said Hamas fighters had the ability to beat Israeli in the battlefield:
Source
Interesting. To me it's hard to believe Hamas has AT weapons, but if so, this could very well end up like their battle in Lebanon.
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