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Topic started on 3-1-2009 @ 12:42 PM by Mdv2
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LIVE STREAM on CNN
Israeli tank column enters Gaza: witness
www.reuters.com
 GAZA (Reuters) - A column of Israeli tanks, some firing their weapons, rolled into the northern Gaza Strip on Saturday, a Palestinian witness
said, in what appeared to be the beginning of a ground offensive against Islamist Hamas.
The witness, a resident of the Gaza town of Beit Lahiya, said the column crossed the boundary fence under darkness and was accompanied by Israeli
combat helicopters. (visit the link for the full news article)
EDIT: Confirmed by Israel:
JERUSALEM, Jan. 3 (Xinhua) -- The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Saturday evening began its ground operation in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip, an IDF
spokesman told Xinhua.
The Cast Lead operation starting last Saturday is now entering its second stage, said the spokesman, adding that the purpose of operation is to
destroy "terror infrastructure of Hamas".
IDF troops has now entered Gaza, he said, adding that the operation will last as long as necessary.
news.xinhuanet.com...
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:42 PM by Mdv2
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The witness could not immediately say how deep the Israelis had penetrated into Palestinian territory.
The Israeli military had no immediate comment.
Israeli media quoted unconfirmed witness reports suggesting there were incursions under way elsewhere in Gaza.
It has begun. Just reported on Dutch TV by a Dutch reporter at the Gaza border. They have entered Gaza. The reporter said the crossed the border at a
point where Israeli settlements used to be but now no Gazans live.
www.reuters.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:43 PM by Raustin
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Just popped up on my TV as breaking news. I hope they clean up the mess over there without killing a bunch of innocent civilians.
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:46 PM by Peruvianmonk
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Well if this is confirmed this will neither be short of enjoyable for the inhabitants of Gaza. Will the Isralies dare to enter Gaza city though which
is where Hamas has mainly based it's power structure or just harass the Palastinians on the peripery of Gaza?
To enter Gaza City would be kinda insane for the Isralei leadership 6 weeks away from an election as it will lead to heavy casulties in a citizen
based army.
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:48 PM by SLAYER69
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Oh great here we go...
I hope and pray for the innocent.
I think Hamas and Israel are acting like asses.
this is so serious no flaming smiley will do! 
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:48 PM by redhead57
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Well Ladies and Gentlemen they are in, it is on CNN right now. I guess the report from abc au was right about the practice run. I can only pray for
all involved as I fear the loss of life will be great on each side. red
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:48 PM by FredT
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Originally posted by Raustin
Just popped up on my TV as breaking news. I hope they clean up the mess over there without killing a bunch of innocent civilians.
Yeah too late for that one eh?
Its amazing, both side fail to learn here. For Hamas its that Israel is not going anywhere, for Israel its that this type of genocide does not work.
They have just layed the seeds for the furture terrorists of the next 10 years of conflict
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:49 PM by ghoulardi
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Watching it live on CNN.
I'm noticing these bright flare like lights slowly falling from the sky. Is that what they are? Flares to provide light for the soldiers?
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:49 PM by Mdv2
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
I think Hamas and Israel are acting like asses.
Pretty much sums it up all. Hamas doesn't give a da*m about their own civilians nor does the Israeli government care about Gazans.
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:49 PM by Raustin
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Agreed. Someone needs to be the bigger person (or whatever). They really are acting like complete ass hats.
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:51 PM by TrainDispatcher
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I wonder how much money this is going to cost the United States 
second line here
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:51 PM by FredT
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Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
reply to post by Mdv2
To enter Gaza City would be kinda insane for the Isralei leadership 6 weeks away from an election as it will lead to heavy casulties in a
citizen based army.
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Nah its exactly the kind of action you need to bring the hard core wackos in the Israeli govenment into the fold to form whatever coalition government
they need to gain power.
You sometimes need a name tag to tell the Islamic extremist from the jewish ones 
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:51 PM by Mdv2
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Confirmed by Israel:
JERUSALEM, Jan. 3 (Xinhua) -- The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Saturday evening began its ground operation in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip, an IDF
spokesman told Xinhua.
The Cast Lead operation starting last Saturday is now entering its second stage, said the spokesman, adding that the purpose of operation is to
destroy "terror infrastructure of Hamas".
IDF troops has now entered Gaza, he said, adding that the operation will last as long as necessary.
news.xinhuanet.com...
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:51 PM by Raustin
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Yeah, flares used to help light the way to the bloodbath. Not picking a side, just am sick of this crap.
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:52 PM by Peruvianmonk
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So will they enter Gaza City? Damn the Israeli leadership if they do, Damn them all to hell...
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:52 PM by FredT
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Originally posted by ghoulardi
Watching it live on CNN.
I'm noticing these bright flare like lights slowly falling from the sky. Is that what they are? Flares to provide light for the soldiers?
I think its decoy flares dropped from helichopters to ward against heat seeking missiles. The IDF is a modern force and should have current generation
night vision thus not need the flares for that
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:53 PM by SLAYER69
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Originally posted by TrainDispatcher
I wonder how much money this is going to cost the United States
Sir What does that have to do with anything? Whats more important at this moment?
Money or life?
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:54 PM by Peruvianmonk
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You don't have to a pick a side, just look at the evidence for the breaking of the ceasefire which had been holding and the side picks itself. Israel
was uninterested in keeping the ceasefire intact, they wish to force Hamas to accept a new ceasefire with better terms for Israel.
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:55 PM by Raustin
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Is there a way that we could maybe all just focus on the information being presented and for once not turn one of these threads into a political
debate? We have enough of those and I don't want to see this polluted with ideology. What am I saying, it will never happen.
Sorry Peruvianmonk, I wasn't actually directing this at you. Didn't see your post.
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 12:56 PM by SLAYER69
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I just saw some night vision clips of tank fire 
MSNBC
Showing weapons fire clips on small screen to the right of main reporting it will rotate through as they are reporting
Tank fire against a stone building = Death to children!
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