I was surprised by how many people in the UK this has caught the attention of - even celebs -so much so they are protesting for peace:
www.channel4.com...
news.bbc.co.uk...
www.sundaysun.co.uk...
www.express.co.uk...
news.bbc.co.uk...
www.channel4.com...
Protests were also staged in Paris. Rome and Athens.
[edit on 3-1-2009 by MCoG1980]
Israeli tank column enters Gaza: witness, page 3
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 01:24 PM by NovusOrdoMundi
reply to post by Mdv2
Israel cannot win this conflict easily. It will get very bloody for the Israeli Defense Forces when Hamas employs guerilla warfare.
Israel may eventually occupy Gaza, but this will turn in to another Iraq. Hamas has the upper hand in unconventional warfare, and that may end up being the difference in this conflict.
The reason all of this is happening is this is one of the last remaining conflicts that "they" do not control. That's why there is such urgency in either a "peace" deal or a complete takeover, such as this. Both would put the situation directly under the control of the banking and foreign policy elite.
Hamas will not go away or back down from this, so what Israel is trying to prove will ultimately be their down fall. Hamas will receive aid and funding from Syria and Iran, and don't be at all surprised when you see that Hezbollah has fired rockets in to Israel in retaliation.
I believe Israel is going to get what they deserve in this conflict. It won't be a simple in and out operation, but a very bloody and drawn out one that ultimately leads to an Israeli pull out.
Israel cannot win this conflict easily. It will get very bloody for the Israeli Defense Forces when Hamas employs guerilla warfare.
Israel may eventually occupy Gaza, but this will turn in to another Iraq. Hamas has the upper hand in unconventional warfare, and that may end up being the difference in this conflict.
The reason all of this is happening is this is one of the last remaining conflicts that "they" do not control. That's why there is such urgency in either a "peace" deal or a complete takeover, such as this. Both would put the situation directly under the control of the banking and foreign policy elite.
Hamas will not go away or back down from this, so what Israel is trying to prove will ultimately be their down fall. Hamas will receive aid and funding from Syria and Iran, and don't be at all surprised when you see that Hezbollah has fired rockets in to Israel in retaliation.
I believe Israel is going to get what they deserve in this conflict. It won't be a simple in and out operation, but a very bloody and drawn out one that ultimately leads to an Israeli pull out.
reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 01:27 PM by whatukno
I got a conspiracy angle for you...
Can anyone say Genocide? Ethnic Cleansing? I knew you could.
Israeli soldier "That group of civilians is shielding a supporter of Hamas" ratta tat tat.
Slaughtering 6 innocent civilians to get 1 man that can fire a toy rocket into Israel really seems a bit brutal to me.
Have any of you seen these Hamas Rockets?
Really? I mean the PC slaughter and genocide of an entire population of people just because of some rather crude rockets?
And why exactly are these people firing rockets into Israel? Perhaps the illegal occupation and the oppression these people have had to endure for how long now?
Israel has the fundamental right to exist peaceably with it's neighbors, this is for certain. But no one has the right to mass murder in order to keep that peace.
Can anyone say Genocide? Ethnic Cleansing? I knew you could.
Israeli soldier "That group of civilians is shielding a supporter of Hamas" ratta tat tat.
Slaughtering 6 innocent civilians to get 1 man that can fire a toy rocket into Israel really seems a bit brutal to me.
Have any of you seen these Hamas Rockets?
Really? I mean the PC slaughter and genocide of an entire population of people just because of some rather crude rockets?
And why exactly are these people firing rockets into Israel? Perhaps the illegal occupation and the oppression these people have had to endure for how long now?
Israel has the fundamental right to exist peaceably with it's neighbors, this is for certain. But no one has the right to mass murder in order to keep that peace.
reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 01:31 PM by theindependentjournal
reply to post by Mdv2
Well I Pray that God blesses and protects the Israeli Soldiers in this dangerous undertaking to rid he world of the Terrorist Group Hamas. I Pray that God protects all the innocents on both sides of this conflict. I Pray that God guides Israeli Bullets to their targets and that Hamas is defeated and the people of palestine and Israel can get down to peace.
I Pray that God gives Jerusalem PEACE!!!
Well I Pray that God blesses and protects the Israeli Soldiers in this dangerous undertaking to rid he world of the Terrorist Group Hamas. I Pray that God protects all the innocents on both sides of this conflict. I Pray that God guides Israeli Bullets to their targets and that Hamas is defeated and the people of palestine and Israel can get down to peace.
I Pray that God gives Jerusalem PEACE!!!
reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 01:38 PM by whatukno
reply to post by theindependentjournal
Hamas a terrorist organisation? Really? a democratically elected terrorist organisation? Hmmm. I really wonder about that. Some would say that the founding fathers and the people that rebelled against Brittan in the start of the US were a terrorist organisation. I guess it's a matter of perspective. Perhaps the people of the Gaza Strip would call them freedom fighters or perhaps Patriots.
Remember the people of the revolution in the US committed what we would call today terrorist crimes against the crown. But for some reason or another we call them patriots. Why? The reason is that they were fighting for our freedom.
What happens if Hamas is fighting for the freedom of the people of the Gaza Strip? Do their actions constitute terrorism or is it a patriotic revolution to fight an oppressive regime?
All perspective I guess.
Hamas a terrorist organisation? Really? a democratically elected terrorist organisation? Hmmm. I really wonder about that. Some would say that the founding fathers and the people that rebelled against Brittan in the start of the US were a terrorist organisation. I guess it's a matter of perspective. Perhaps the people of the Gaza Strip would call them freedom fighters or perhaps Patriots.
Remember the people of the revolution in the US committed what we would call today terrorist crimes against the crown. But for some reason or another we call them patriots. Why? The reason is that they were fighting for our freedom.
What happens if Hamas is fighting for the freedom of the people of the Gaza Strip? Do their actions constitute terrorism or is it a patriotic revolution to fight an oppressive regime?
All perspective I guess.
reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 01:38 PM by czacza
reply to post by whatukno
good point. star for you.
unfortunatetly, some people here on ATS just love to see some blood. especially as far as in Palestine.
good point. star for you.
unfortunatetly, some people here on ATS just love to see some blood. especially as far as in Palestine.
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